PAUL PREACHED A SECRET GOSPEL

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Doug

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The same gospel the devil believes.
You can believe sentences all you want.
Many atheists also believe sentences about Jesus.
News flash for every hyperpauline:
Salvation is not a book, words, or doctrine.
SALVATION IS A PERSON.
HIS NAME IS JESUS.
If you miss that, and can quote Paul from memory, you are one lost soul.

Remember , the devil believes the gospel. He was there.

I shall call it "book salvation"
A book and sentences replace actual salvation
Pssssst.....a PERSON.....JESUS.
[2Ti 3:15 KJV] 15 And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.
 

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Which part of the verse is funny?
The hyper Pauline's would throw a fit if that were true.
Peter is a bogey man to them and preached a distorted gospel.
To them Paul is king and they trust his words.(thinking and proclaiming only Paul belived "saved by grace")
They even say Jesus preached a different Gospel that failed, and the cross was "plan b".
Sad actually.
Nothing funny about it.
 

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[2Ti 3:15 KJV] 15 And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.
Amen to that.
Sad that some do not know the author.
...and those same people have replaced salvation ( Jesus) with sentences from the Bible.
Can you tell us what salvation is?
 

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[1Co 12:13 KJV] 13 For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether [we be] Jews or Gentiles, whether [we be] bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.

Paul preached baptism by the Spirit
1 cor 1
14 I thank God that I baptized none of you, but Crispus and Gaius;

15 Lest any should say that I had baptized in mine own name.

16 And I baptized also the household of Stephanas: besides, I know not whether I baptized any other.
Psssst...the issue is baptism in Jesus name, not some apostle.

A 30 second search proves your deal is way way off

I am Going to tell you something.
those books you're looking at from those hyperpaulines will make a fool out of you. Because they don't know their bible.
that's the issue here.
I know my bible, and I see the mass perversion of these people.
 

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Can you tell us what salvation is?
There is more than use for salvation and context comes into play

Primarily it is being delivered from the penalty of sin and receiving justification unto eternal life

It can be physically saved
The little flock will be saved in the tribulation to enter the earthly kingdom Matthew 24:13 Luke 1:71

it can be saved from error or deception 1 Timothy 2:15 4:16
 

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1 cor 1
14 I thank God that I baptized none of you, but Crispus and Gaius;

15 Lest any should say that I had baptized in mine own name.

16 And I baptized also the household of Stephanas: besides, I know not whether I baptized any other.
Psssst...the issue is baptism in Jesus name, not some apostle.

A 30 second search proves your deal is way way off

I am Going to tell you something.
those books you're looking at from those hyperpaulines will make a fool out of you. Because they don't know their bible.
that's the issue here.
I know my bible, and I see the mass perversion of these people.
Paul did baptize some but he never said to water baptize in his epistles
In fact he said there was only one baptism and that would be baptized into Christ by the Spirit
 
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Paul did baptize some but he never said to water baptize in his epistles
In fact he said there was only one baptism and that would be baptized into Christ by the Spirit
Maybe since he did baptize believers he should have consulted the hyper Pauline workbook that has been fashioned, and straightened himself out for such a haneous act of heresy.
I guess he found out later that baptism was heresy???????
 

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Secret Gospel?

Now That God Has "Made It Public", we do have a choice, eh? Which for you, precious friends?:

In the "kingdom gospel" according to Prophecy, to Peter and the twelve, or:
(4 Gospels AV)

Rightly Divided (2 Timothy 2:15 AV) From “Things That Differ!” (online):

In "The Gospel Of Grace", According To The Revelation Of The Mystery, to Paul?
(Romans - Philemon AV)

I have decided to follow Jesus?

Amen.

In the "kingdom gospel" according to Prophecy, to Peter and the twelve, or:

Rightly Divided (2 Timothy 2:15 AV) From “Things That Differ!” (online):

In "The Gospel Of Grace", According To The Revelation Of The Mystery, to Paul?

I have decided to follow Jesus?

Amen.

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Acts 3:19 Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord;
3:20 And he shall send Jesus Christ, which before was preached unto you:
3:21 Whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began.

Peter preached Christ.

Peter preached Christ would be sent if Israel repented.

Peter preached Christ according to what all the prophets spoke since the world began.

Romans 16:25 Now to him that is of power to stablish you according to my gospel, and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery, which was kept secret since the world began,

Paul preached Christ.

Paul preached Christ according to the mystery, which was kept secret since the world began.

If Paul preached the gospel and Christ according to the mystery kept secret since the world began, Peter could not be preaching the same gospel as Paul seeing that what Paul preached was kept secret from him.

[Eph 3:3-5 KJV] 3 How that by revelation he made known unto me the mystery; (as I wrote afore in few words, 4 Whereby, when ye read, ye may understand my knowledge in the mystery of Christ) 5 Which in other ages was not made known unto the sons of men, as it is now revealed unto his holy apostles and prophets by the Spirit;

The mystery could not have been preached by Peter seeing that the mystery was not made known until revealed to Paul.

What was preached since the world began can not be the same thing if it was kept secret since the world began.
A secret Gospel.
So secret that Jesus never heard of it yet made the mistake of dying for the public one.

Secret Gospel does not Save.
 

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Maybe since he did baptize believers he should have consulted the hyper Pauline workbook that has been fashioned, and straightened himself out for such a haneous act of heresy.
I guess he found out later that baptism was heresy???????
Paul stated he was not sent to baptize. In one epistle he was grateful he had not baptized certain ones.


And Paul was a Pharisee who knew the meaning and importance of the Mikvah.
 

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All Apostles preached salvation by Jesus alone.
Paul was simply one amoung many
BINGO . they all preached the same gospel to both the jew and the gentile .
The death , burial and ressurection of JESUS , the dire NEED to believe on HIM . you can see it in acts .
The gospel peter preached to the jews was the same one he preached to the gentile house of cornelious
as well as Paul preached the same gospel to both the jews in all those synagogues he went too
as well as all gentiles . BULLSEYE my friend .
 

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[2Ti 3:15 KJV] 15 And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.
Through FAITH IN JESUS CHRIST . And notice how paul and others often reminded the church of the dire
importance of learning the scriptures . NOT like todays men who preach that false lovey do universal salvatoin
sin accepting many path road to HELL , though they cliam its to GOD .
I say WE ALL BIBLE UP FOR OURSELVES and learn FOR ourselves what most no longer truly teach or rightly divided , THE TRUTH
 

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BINGO . they all preached the same gospel to both the jew and the gentile .
The death , burial and ressurection of JESUS , the dire NEED to believe on HIM . you can see it in acts .
The gospel peter preached to the jews was the same one he preached to the gentile house of cornelious
as well as Paul preached the same gospel to both the jews in all those synagogues he went too
as well as all gentiles . BULLSEYE my friend .
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Through FAITH IN JESUS CHRIST . And notice how paul and others often reminded the church of the dire
importance of learning the scriptures . NOT like todays men who preach that false lovey do universal salvatoin
sin accepting many path road to HELL , though they cliam its to GOD .
I say WE ALL BIBLE UP FOR OURSELVES and learn FOR ourselves what most no longer truly teach or rightly divided , THE TRUTH
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A secret Gospel.
So secret that Jesus never heard of it yet made the mistake of dying for the public one.

Secret Gospel does not Save.
Dont let them fool you . paul preached the very same gospel as did peter and james , john and all .
Pauline theology that many teach , EVEN PAUL had rebuked them all for doing so .
As would james and others . THEY were IN AGREEMENT friend .
MEN just twist stuff is all and often unto their own destruction .
 

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Paul stated he was not sent to baptize. In one epistle he was grateful he had not baptized certain ones.


And Paul was a Pharisee who knew the meaning and importance of the Mikvah.
paul would have rebuked pauline theology . mark my words , oh mark them well . THEY twist even HIS own words .
Not an apostle one , nor paul later an apostel taught any different gospel .
James nor pual contradicted each other either . folks just dont know the bible
and what bible they do know has been twisted by mens own doctrines and theologies . that be the problem .
 
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Dont let them fool you . paul preached the very same gospel as did peter and james , john and all .
Pauline theology that many teach , EVEN PAUL had rebuked them all for doing so .
As would james and others . THEY were IN AGREEMENT friend .
MEN just twist stuff is all and often unto their own destruction .
I am not Pauline. I do not believe Paul taught the Gospel of Christ Jesus that Christ Jesus imparted to his anointed Apostles.

The secret gospel idea is just another tactic of the enemy.
 

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The secret gospel idea is just another tactic of the enemy.
Precious friend, respectfully Disagree Because God Does Not Have "the Same tactic of the enemy":
Biblical Confirmation:

Bible Contrasts
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BRIEF 'Example' Of Right Division
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God's Approval/TWO Gospels In Prophecy vs Mystery
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"Distinctions" of Prophecy vs MYSTERY (God's Hidden 'Secret!')

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No Other Doctrine But Right Division!
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Biblical 'Representations' of Twelve and ONE
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unScriptural or UNdispensational?

Please Be Very Richly Encouraged And Edified In
The Lord Jesus Christ, and In His Word of Truth, Rightly
Divided!


Amen.

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