Ordain a Lady

[Jude Thaddeus]

BoL,MoG,is that you?

One thing that is held in common by certain Roman Catholics here is,rage.

Not all of course. Just those few who think to defend their church ideology using ad homs, personal attacks, against those they cannot speak to civilly.

It's a fascinating correlary in how they all resort to the same offense. Thinking they're a fine example in the process defending the God of love as the Prince of Peace.
It also informs what their church instills into them.

Oh pleeeze, gimmie a break. MOST of the posts by Catholics are DEFENSIVE, opposing the endless lies and misrepresentations of what Catholics really believe. If Catholic bashing was banned, certain threads wouldn't be pages and pages long.

 

[Behold]

Oh pleeeze, gimmie a break. MOST of the posts by Catholics are DEFENSIVE, opposing the endless lies and misrepresentations of what Catholics really believe. If Catholic bashing was banned, certain threads wouldn't be pages and pages long.

Regarding this Plastic Crowned (MOG) photo, i'll post below for you....
Where is (a) JESUS , in the Photo?
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[RedFan]

Regarding this Plastic Crowned (MOG) photo, i'll post below for you....
Where is (a) JESUS , in the Photo?
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Interesting that someone has draped a rosary over her hands here, without considering the connotation that Mary's using a rosary entails praying to herself.

 

[RedFan]

It also informs what their church instills into them.

Catholics trained to be attack dogs? That's nonsense.

 

[Jude Thaddeus]

Regarding this Plastic Crowned (MOG) photo, i'll post below for you....
Where is (a) JESUS , in the Photo?
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Off topic emotional derailer by an arrogant attack dog who is too proud to be corrected.

 

[Jude Thaddeus]

Interesting that someone has draped a rosary over her hands here, without considering the connotation that Mary's using a rosary entails praying to herself.

Of course, it doesn't occur to you that the depiction shows her presenting a devotional aid. You are not slipping into the absurd anti-Mary animus, are you?

 

[Behold]

Interesting that someone has draped a rosary over her hands here, without considering the connotation that Mary's using a rosary entails praying to herself.

Something else to note..

When Mary was alive, there was no such thing as : "Rosary - beads" .

 

[Behold]

Off topic emotional derailer by an arrogant attack dog who is too proud to be corrected.

When Mary was alive, there was no such thing as a "Pope"... and No such thing as "Rosary- Beads" or a "Rosary".

So...Dont let the truth get in your way, as why accept facts when you can chase a Religious Opera, instead. @Jude Thaddeus

 

[RedFan]

Of course, it doesn't occur to you that the depiction shows her presenting a devotional aid. You are not slipping into the absurd anti-Mary animus, are you?

Heck, no! I'm not anti-Mary at all. But I don't see her "presenting" the rosary to anyone here. I see her hands together as if in prayer.

 

[BlessedPeace]

When Mary was alive, there was no such thing as a "Pope"... and No such thing as "Rosary- Beads" or a "Rosary".

So...Dont let the truth get in your way, as why accept facts when you can chase a Religious Opera, instead. @Jude Thaddeus

He never taught indulgences,Purgatory, Limbo, the need for newborns to be sprinkled in baptism, relics adoration,or idolatry.

All topics within the RCC at one time in their history. However,this thread isn't about the cult of Mary.

We should not allow this derail. Christians don't need to rail against paganism.

 

[RedFan]

He never taught indulgences,Purgatory, Limbo, the need for newborns to be sprinkled in baptism, relics adoration,or idolatry.

All topics within the RCC at one time in their history. However,this thread isn't about the cult of Mary.

We should not allow this derail. Christians don't need to rail against paganism.

Yes, we are getting off topic. But the detour suggests a question to me. If Mary, rather than James, were proposed as the leader of the Church in Jerusalem in mid-First century, would any of the apostles have gone along with it? Or would they have concluded she was disqualified on account of her gonads?

What say ye, Catholics?

 

[Behold]

He never taught indulgences,Purgatory, Limbo, the need for newborns to be sprinkled in baptism, relics adoration,or idolatry.

The bible (NT) does not teach that Mary is sinless, or created without original sin.

So, Where did that come from?

= From Pope Pius ..

He decided this on December 8, 1884, and now you have Catholics.."Cult of the Virgin"... who say...>"its the truth". 'We always taught it" "Its the scriptures".

Well, its the Pope's truth from about '1884., and Catholics are required to believe it and sell it.

 

[Jude Thaddeus]

Yes, we are getting off topic. But the detour suggests a question to me. If Mary, rather than James, were proposed as the leader of the Church in Jerusalem in mid-First century, would any of the apostles have gone along with it? Or would they have concluded she was disqualified on account of her gonads?

What say ye, Catholics?

Jesus would not have gone along with it. Your scenario is absurd.

Gen. 3:15; Luke 1:26-55; John 19:26; Rev. 12:1- Mary is God’s greatest creation, was the closest person to Jesus, and yet Jesus did not choose her to become a priest. God chose only men to be priests to reflect the complimentarity of the sexes. Just as the man (the royal priest) gives natural life to the woman in the marital covenant, the ministerial priest gives supernatural life in the New Covenant sacraments.

Judges 17:10; 18:19 – fatherhood and priesthood are synonymous terms. Micah says, “Stay with me, and be to me a father and a priest.” Fathers/priests give life, and mothers receive and nurture life. This reflects God our Father who gives the life of grace through the Priesthood of His Divine Son, and Mother Church who receives the life of grace and nourishes her children. In summary, women cannot be priests because women cannot be fathers.

Mark 16:9; Luke 7: 37-50; John 8:3-11 – Jesus allowed women to uniquely join in His mission, exalting them above cultural norms. His decision not to ordain women had nothing to do with culture. The Gospel writers are also clear that women participated in Jesus’ ministry and, unlike men, never betrayed Jesus. Women have always been held with the highest regard in the Church (e.g., the Church’s greatest saint and model of faith is a woman; the Church’s constant teaching on the dignity of motherhood; the Church’s understanding of humanity as being the Bride united to Christ, etc.).

It could be that you are sexually confused.

 

[Jude Thaddeus]

He never taught indulgences,Purgatory, Limbo, the need for newborns to be sprinkled in baptism, relics adoration,or idolatry.

All topics within the RCC at one time in their history. However,this thread isn't about the cult of Mary.

We should not allow this derail. Christians don't need to rail against paganism.

You have no manners; 7 claims based on ignorance and prejudice in one line.

Do you believe that God is capable or incapable of preserving Mary's soul from inheriting original sin, thus remaining an immaculate soul? You can run from the question, but you can't hide.

 

[Jude Thaddeus]

We should not allow this derail. Christians don't need to rail against paganism.

 

[Behold]

Jesus allowed women to uniquely join in His mission, exalting them above cultural norms.

There were no specific "cultural norms" when Jesus showed up, as you are falsely implying.
And that is because the last OT Prophet died 430 yrs before Jesus began His earthly ministry.

So, there was no point of reference in Jesus's day, that would have been ""cultural norms""... as the preceding 430 yrs since the last Prophet DIED, would have erased any such concepts from Jewish (House of Israel) culture. (Mind).

There is no Jewish book that teaches..>"When the Messiah shows up, here is what He can and can't do"...

See.....JESUS was a brand New Situation, and so, all that He did was "first time"... and so, having apostles was a brand new situation, and having women in His ministry, was brand new as it had never happened before.

So, Christ the Lord was writing the "book" on all this from the start..

Paul later stated that Peter had his wife with him, in the ministry... (Don't tell that to your Pope).....

So, that means when you @Jude Thaddeus try to pretend to teach what you have no understanding of at all,..then this just continues to confirm to the "non-catholics" ....that what you do is what your church always does..."IT (you) pretends to be the authority"..... and in fact, is just the "cult of the Virgin", religious nonsense, and you are its mouthpiece, and not just you.

 

[RedFan]

Jesus would not have gone along with it. Your scenario is absurd.

Gen. 3:15; Luke 1:26-55; John 19:26; Rev. 12:1- Mary is God’s greatest creation, was the closest person to Jesus, and yet Jesus did not choose her to become a priest. God chose only men to be priests to reflect the complimentarity of the sexes. Just as the man (the royal priest) gives natural life to the woman in the marital covenant, the ministerial priest gives supernatural life in the New Covenant sacraments.

Judges 17:10; 18:19 – fatherhood and priesthood are synonymous terms. Micah says, “Stay with me, and be to me a father and a priest.” Fathers/priests give life, and mothers receive and nurture life. This reflects God our Father who gives the life of grace through the Priesthood of His Divine Son, and Mother Church who receives the life of grace and nourishes her children. In summary, women cannot be priests because women cannot be fathers.

Mark 16:9; Luke 7: 37-50; John 8:3-11 – Jesus allowed women to uniquely join in His mission, exalting them above cultural norms. His decision not to ordain women had nothing to do with culture. The Gospel writers are also clear that women participated in Jesus’ ministry and, unlike men, never betrayed Jesus. Women have always been held with the highest regard in the Church (e.g., the Church’s greatest saint and model of faith is a woman; the Church’s constant teaching on the dignity of motherhood; the Church’s understanding of humanity as being the Bride united to Christ, etc.).

It could be that you are sexually confused.

Gee, and I would have bet money you were going to tell me Mary was assumed into heaven and therefore unavailable for the post!

 

[Behold]

Gee, and I would have bet money you were going to tell me Mary was assumed into heaven and therefore unavailable for the post!

Try this one out.. Reader.

Transitus (the Syriac fragments of the Transitus)) teaches = (passing on, crossing over) Mariae, and attributed to Melito of Sardes tells of Mary's homegoing (Ascension) in detail:

""""""In the presence of the apostles gathered around her bed, also in the presence of her divine Son and many angels, Mary died and her soul, rose to heaven, accompanied by Christ and the angels. Her body was buried by the disciples. Difficulties developed among certain of the Jews who wished to dispose of her body. Various types of miracles occurred to convince them to honor Mary's body.

On the third day, Christ RETURNED....

= At the request of the apostles the soul of Mary is reunited with her body. Accompanied by singing angels,

= Christ brought Mary to paradise. """""


Uh huh.
Right.

 

[BlessedPeace]

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And racist!

I did not think to add that. When a self identified Catholic does....

 

[Jude Thaddeus]

Gee, and I would have bet money you were going to tell me Mary was assumed into heaven and therefore unavailable for the post!