I am the same way.....essentially I don’t give two hoots in Hell about anything anybody does or says....I get disgusted sometimes when people are trying to impress me with how “ good” they are ......Just tell me about Jesus .....be like Paul who taught “ Christ Crucified” to the exclusion of many other things much of the time....it’s all that counts in the end..I have discovered that the more I know Him , I am so impressed with HIS performance , I couldn’t care less about mine and I sure don’t care about anybody else’s....Just shut up and tell me about Jesus....I don’t mean that in a rude way....it’s just a side -effect of knowing Him, I suppose....
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I am the same way.....essentially I don’t give two hoots in Hell about anything anybody does or says....I get disgusted sometimes when people are trying to impress me with how “ good” they are ......Just tell me about Jesus .....be like Paul who taught “ Christ Crucified” to the exclusion of many other things much of the time....it’s all that counts in the end..I have discovered that the more I know Him , I am so impressed with HIS performance , I couldn’t care less about mine and I sure don’t care about anybody else’s....Just shut up and tell me about Jesus....I don’t mean that in a rude way....it’s just a side -effect of knowing Him, I suppose....
I'm sensing another BREAK coming on... I am a bit on the crusty side today... Been a difficult week... dealing with my "real life" legalistic family.... and... this is DAY 4 of RAIN....go figure... LOL
Ziggy
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I thought a lot about this once saved always saved thing.
The disciples asked Jesus, how should we pray..
somewhere in those verses is "Thy will be done"
Now Peter tells us exactly what God's will is...
And if God wills it, can any prevent it?
2Pe 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
If God is NOT WILLING that any should perish..
How many is that?
If it is God's will that all should come to repentance..
How many is that?
Doesn't it say somewhere that EVERY knee shall bow?
How many is that?
So if God sent his son into the world to save it,
How many are saved?
There may be a lot of people that have to go through hell to get to heaven,
But I believe ultimately..
Thy Will Be Done.
Amen
The disciples asked Jesus, how should we pray..
somewhere in those verses is "Thy will be done"
Now Peter tells us exactly what God's will is...
And if God wills it, can any prevent it?
2Pe 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
If God is NOT WILLING that any should perish..
How many is that?
If it is God's will that all should come to repentance..
How many is that?
Doesn't it say somewhere that EVERY knee shall bow?
How many is that?
So if God sent his son into the world to save it,
How many are saved?
There may be a lot of people that have to go through hell to get to heaven,
But I believe ultimately..
Thy Will Be Done.
Amen
Taken
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For?
Rom 4:
[13] For the promise, that he should be the heir of the world, was not to Abraham, or to his seed, through the law, but through the righteousness of faith.
Taken
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Don't see them in this post.
I have clearly expressed Gods Scriptural Order and Way and on more than one occasion expressed, in scriptural terms, the similitudes and differences of Salvation offered and given pertaining to an OT man, and a NT man and Gentiles.
You pretending you have Authority to summarize my Belief, my Understanding with your Words, Understanding and Accusations, Amounts to nothing more than your Opinion, and has Zero affect on me.
Eternally Grateful
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he who believes is not condemned
he who does not believe is condemned already
Jesus said what the fathers will was.
John 6: 8 For I have come down from heaven, not to do My own will, but the will of Him who sent Me. 39 This is the will of the Father who sent Me, that of all He has given Me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up at the last day. 40 And this is the will of Him who sent Me, that everyone who sees the Son and believes in Him may have everlasting life; and I will raise him up at the last day.”
While yes, He will willing that non should perish, He will force his gift of eternal life on no one. He will save only those who have true saving faith and recieve. As john said
12 But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, to those who believe in His name:
Michiah-Imla
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Post# 3803
"Then said one unto him, Lord, are there few that be saved? And he said unto them, Strive to enter in at the strait gate: for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able." (Luke 13:23-24)
Striving to be saved is a foreign concept to Once Saved Always Saved adherents.
"Then said one unto him, Lord, are there few that be saved? And he said unto them, Strive to enter in at the strait gate: for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able." (Luke 13:23-24)
Striving to be saved is a foreign concept to Once Saved Always Saved adherents.
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Taken
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I'm so glad that NONE of you are my parents... that's all I can say.... Poor children... they are loved and safe on Monday and Tuesday... oooops... they were not good on Wednesday.... Thursday ... oh man... they really messed up... so ... NOT my kid today... This is really bad theology being shown here these last few days....
Eternally Grateful
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It’s more than just not t my kid
pits kick your kid out, remove your dna from them and your blood. And make them repent before you allow them back and give them back the dna and blood so they can live again
Michiah-Imla
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Post# 3808
Unless he does this:
"…if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins" (Hebrews 10:26)
No more regeneration for you.
There’s no coming back for seconds!
"And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness." (2 Thessalonians 2:11-12)
Unless he does this:
"…if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins" (Hebrews 10:26)
No more regeneration for you.
There’s no coming back for seconds!
"And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness." (2 Thessalonians 2:11-12)
Strive to “ BE” saved perhaps—- that is where the “ Fear and Trembling” takes place ....it is not a pleasant thing to finally come to an” End of yourself” and truly see yourself as the Wretched, Hell- Deserving Sinner That you are.....
Then , once you “ARE” Saved.....REST in the Finished Work Of The Cross—- not only a great idea....it’s a Command Of God in Hebrews.....
YEP... and YEP... VERY SAD it is.... This was a brilliant analogy by the way... BRILLIANT....
Eternally Grateful
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I am taking a wee break... so catch you when I come back... Blessings to you...
Eternally Grateful
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Enjoy the sun, it just came out here too, I am just at lunch getting ready to head back to work
I'm sorry, but no drama for me..time to ignore......this will be a peaceful place to discuss...and if I see something taken the wrong way...I just find it best to put folks on ignore....I will not be drawn into going back and forth...with negativity....peace and blessings....if you can't feel good intention on my part...then it's best to pursue peace...by ignoring.....
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