Misunderstandings about hearing the Lord

[St. SteVen]

I received the baptism in the Holy Spirit...by the mighty powerful word of God...delivered straight to my heart...I remember as he was indwelling me...his spirit testifies with our spirit that we are God’s children/Born Again....how else would I know I was Born Again?

I agree that the indwelling confirms our renewed relationship with God.
But according to the Bible the indwelling and the Baptism with the Holy Spirit are two different things.

Question: Did the Apostles have the indwelling Spirit prior to the outpouring at Pentecost?

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[St. SteVen]

8 The wind blows wherever it pleases. You hear its sound, but you cannot tell where it comes from or where it is going. So it is with everyone born of the Spirit."

Jesus is saying that the Spirit is unpredictable.
We get in trouble when we try to fit him in a box.

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[marks]

I agree that the indwelling confirms our renewed relationship with God.
But according to the Bible the indwelling and the Baptism with the Holy Spirit are two different things.

Question: Did the Apostles have the indwelling Spirit prior to the outpouring at Pentecost?

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This happened one time:

John 20:22 KJV
And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and saith unto them, Receive ye the Holy Ghost:

And is mistakenly used at times as though it shows a "two-step" rebirth, with a filling of the Spirit, followed later by the baptism of the Spirit, which contradicts Paul's teaching on this subject.

If someone were to view this as the pattern for conversion subsequent to these men, do you likewise include what else Jesus said?

John 20:22-23 KJV
22) And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and saith unto them, Receive ye the Holy Ghost:
23) Whose soever sins ye remit, they are remitted unto them; and whose soever sins ye retain, they are retained.

Much love!

 

[St. SteVen]

I speak in tongues.....but in honesty..I haven’t spoken in tongues in years.

I also had a prophetic message as you know, delivered straight to my heart...by God’s Living word....you know the story.

That's evidence of the Baptism with the Holy Spirit.
I suspected as much, but had a heck of a time getting you to admit it. - LOL

You may have some questions about the operation of gifts.
It just occurred to me that oil symbolizes the Holy Spirit. (word of wisdom?)
He can lubricate your rusty manifestation skills.

I like to speak in tongues at least once a week to get my spiritual batteries charged. - LOL

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[Azim]

I agree that the indwelling confirms our renewed relationship with God.
But according to the Bible the indwelling and the Baptism with the Holy Spirit are two different things.

Question: Did the Apostles have the indwelling Spirit prior to the outpouring at Pentecost?

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Hope you don't mind if I ask some questions based on your post above. Typically, from testimonies of others, when they claim they received the Baptism of the Holy Spirit, it was due to others laying hands on them. Can someone be alone, and receive the Baptism from God directly?

 

[Karl Peters]

John 10

King James Version

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10 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that entereth not by the door into the sheepfold, but climbeth up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber.
2 But he that entereth in by the door is the shepherd of the sheep.
3 To him the porter openeth; and the sheep hear his voice: and he calleth his own sheep by name, and leadeth them out.
4 And when he putteth forth his own sheep, he goeth before them, and the sheep follow him: for they know his voice.
5 And a stranger will they not follow, but will flee from him: for they know not the voice of strangers.
6 This parable spake Jesus unto them: but they understood not what things they were which he spake unto them.
7 Then said Jesus unto them again, Verily, verily, I say unto you, I am the door of the sheep.
8 All that ever came before me are thieves and robbers: but the sheep did not hear them.
9 I am the door: by me if any man enter in, he shall be saved, and shall go in and out, and find pasture.
10 The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.
11 I am the good shepherd: the good shepherd giveth his life for the sheep.
12 But he that is an hireling, and not the shepherd, whose own the sheep are not, seeth the wolf coming, and leaveth the sheep, and fleeth: and the wolf catcheth them, and scattereth the sheep.
13 The hireling fleeth, because he is an hireling, and careth not for the sheep.
14 I am the good shepherd, and know my sheep, and am known of mine.
15 As the Father knoweth me, even so know I the Father: and I lay down my life for the sheep.
16 And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd.
17 Therefore doth my Father love me, because I lay down my life, that I might take it again.
18 No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment have I received of my Father.
19 There was a division therefore again among the Jews for these sayings.
20 And many of them said, He hath a devil, and is mad; why hear ye him?
21 Others said, These are not the words of him that hath a devil. Can a devil open the eyes of the blind?
22 And it was at Jerusalem the feast of the dedication, and it was winter.
23 And Jesus walked in the temple in Solomon's porch.
24 Then came the Jews round about him, and said unto him, How long dost thou make us to doubt? If thou be the Christ, tell us plainly.
25 Jesus answered them, I told you, and ye believed not: the works that I do in my Father's name, they bear witness of me.
26 But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you.
27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:
28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.
29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.
30 I and my Father are one.
31 Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him.
32 Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me?
33 The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.
34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?
35 If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken;
36 Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?
37 If I do not the works of my Father, believe me not.
38 But if I do, though ye believe not me, believe the works: that ye may know, and believe, that the Father is in me, and I in him.
39 Therefore they sought again to take him: but he escaped out of their hand,
40 And went away again beyond Jordan into the place where John at first baptized; and there he abode.
41 And many resorted unto him, and said, John did no miracle: but all things that John spake of this man were true.
42 And many believed on him there.

WWJD

What would Jesus Do??????

What He never did is just say a bunch of Scriptures! Are not those already written. I don't know about everyone, but I have a lot of Bibles. He once had me open and run a Christian bookstore for Him, and He still has me selling books on-line, so I have lot of Bible. Still, I have never come to this forum with the intent of trying to post the Bible!!

He has me come to this forum to preach the Word of God, and that to mean Him and that He wants His people listening to Him. Now I will provide some Scriptures that back that approach up. So here are a few to back up what He tells me to do:

2 Tim 4: 1 - 4 I solemnly charge you in the presence of God and of Christ Jesus, who is to judge the living and the dead, and by His appearing and His kingdom: preach the word; be ready in season and out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort, with great patience and instruction. For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but wanting to have their ears tickled, they will accumulate for themselves teachers in accordance to their own desires, and will turn away their ears from the truth and will turn aside to myths.

Now the Greek word used for "word" above is logos. And it is used in the following verses also.

Jn 1:1,2 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God.

and

Rev 19:13 He is clothed with a robe dipped in blood, and His name is called The Word of God.

Now when Jesus spoke He referred to something written to back up what He was saying, but by doing that He was not promoting the Scriptures but rather hearing what He had to say. He has not changed! If indeed you are hearing from Him you know that He is still the same today and always! It is not about the Scriptures, but the Scriptures are about Him!!

I was once told: "We don't use the Lord to preach the Scriptures, we use the Scriptures to preach the Lord."

That would seem obvious to anyone who actually hears from Him, isn't it. I mean unless you are trying to make and on-line Bible, you don't just post a bunch of Scriptures, right? And posting bunch of Scriptures does not mean you know the Lord, does it. In fact it may mean that you think the Scriptures themselves will save you!

Jn 5: 39, 40 You search the Scriptures because you think that in them you have eternal life; it is these that testify about Me; and you are unwilling to come to Me so that you may have life.

And if you talk to the Lord He points out other little things you might have missed, like the verse that follows:

Jn 5:41 “I do not receive glory from men;

Why would that verse follow the other 2?

Before listening to Him, I thought it just meant that they were seeking other people whom they knew at that time. But Jesus was not talking about that, He was talking about them 'searching the Scriptures" instead of coming and listening to Him. So He pointed out to me that the Scriptures were written by men! Yeah, He told them to write them, and He talked to those men who wrote them, even telling them what to write, but never-the-less He does not receive glory from men, not even the men who wrote the Scriptures. He gets is glory from His Father, the Holy Spirit, and His Kingdom! And His Kingdom if not of this world - He told Pilate that!

So those Jews then were thinking that because they had the Scriptures they had the glory of God, but have the Scriptures don't mean that! So why did we see a long post with nothing but Scriptures. Do we not understand that pride in ourselves can show up a number of ways?

Again, we don't point people to the Scriptures and thus preach the Scriptures, we point people to Jesus Christ and support that with the Scriptures, right?

So we tell them to seek Him and listen to Him, but will they? I have to tell you that is what He wants of us; that we seek Him and listen to Him!!

Ps 81:13 “Oh that My people would listen to Me,
That Israel would walk in My ways!

If you indeed listen to Him, you would know that is what is really on His heart!

 

[St. SteVen]

St. SteVen said:
I agree that the indwelling confirms our renewed relationship with God.
But according to the Bible the indwelling and the Baptism with the Holy Spirit are two different things.

Question: Did the Apostles have the indwelling Spirit prior to the outpouring at Pentecost?

Hope you don't mind if I ask some questions based on your post above. Typically, from testimonies of others, when they claim they received the Baptism of the Holy Spirit, it was due to others laying hands on them. Can someone be alone, and receive the Baptism from God directly?

Good question!
You are ALWAYS welcome to ask question of me ANYTIME.

The short answer is, "Yes." Several have testified to just such a conversion experience.
The Holy Spirit came on them spontaneously, and they began speaking in tongues, some having no idea
what it even was that happened to them. And didn't tell anyone until years later. - LOL

It is common today to go to a church seeking the Baptism with the Holy Spirit and have hands laid on you.

The Holy Spirit is very unpredictable. Even after Pentecost in the book of Acts we see the unpredictability.
- At Pentecost the Spirit came without warning.
- After Peter's Pentecost sermon 3,000 were baptized and received the Spirit. (no mention of hand-laying)
- In Samaria the baptized believers did not receive the Spirit until the Apostles laid hands on them.
- At the house of Cornelius the Spirit came on the (unbaptized) gentiles while Peter was still preaching.

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[Karl Peters]

That's evidence of the Baptism with the Holy Spirit.
I suspected as much, but had a heck of a time getting you to admit it. - LOL

You may have some questions about the operation of gifts.
It just occurred to me that oil symbolizes the Holy Spirit. (word of wisdom?)
He can lubricate your rusty manifestation skills.

I like to speak in tongues at least once a week to get my spiritual batteries charged. - LOL

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I like what you write:

Its honest, it's correct, and it shows how a walk with God is like>

I have been with Him a long time, over 20 years now, and I like to walk and talk with the Lord, at least I usually do. As for speaking in tongues, I don't really seek it as much as I used to, preferring to just seek Him and what He has to tell me, yet it manifests in me usually about once a week.

So often it manifest in me when I work a prayer room that He has me working. There is an elevator at my church to that room, and so often the Spirit comes on me and has me speaking in tongues while riding up the elevator, yet it can happen at anytime. Sometimes I even ask the Spirit to come on me, when I have something to pray for but I am not sure how to pray. I can ask the Lord, but if it is something that I really don't need to know about, like someone's personal life, then He won't talk about that except that He will have the Spirit manifest through me in tongues. It is part of the normal Christian life, is it not?

 

[TLHKAJ]

How would a Catholic answer your question?
Or do you assume they are all lost?

Until and unless they have received the TRUE Lord Jesus Christ as the Savior, and stopped trusting in "Mary" and other entities .... they'll remain unsaved. It depends on whom they jave placed their trust. If they continue in idolatry, no, they're not saved.

Acts 4:10-12
[10]Be it known unto you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whom God raised from the dead, even by him doth this man stand here before you whole.
[11]This is the stone which was set at nought of you builders, which is become the head of the corner.
[12]Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.

Just believing in Jesus doesn't save a person. They need to place their [faith and trust in Christ, alone.... not this saint or that saint, or "Mary." So scripture lays out very specific parameters for salvation.

James 2:19
[19]Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.

I had a midwife who was very different. She was catholic, and yet, she prayed to Jesus. I never heard her pray to a saint. I didn't see shrines and rosaries everywhere in her home like I saw in my mother-in-law's home. (Sidenote: I had 4 homebirths with this midwife.)

 

[St. SteVen]

There is an elevator at my church to that room, and so often the Spirit comes on me and has me speaking in tongues while riding up the elevator, yet it can happen at anytime.

Yes. I too have always found speaking in tongues to be an "elevating" experience. - LOL

Sometimes I even ask the Spirit to come on me, when I have something to pray for but I am not sure how to pray.

That's actually VERY biblical. I hope @Ritajanice is reading this.
The Spirit helps us in our weakness when we do not know what to pray for.
Because the Spirit himself intercedes for us through "wordless groans". (tongues)
The Spirit intercedes for God’s people in accordance with the will of God.

Interesting that verses 26-27 precede Romans 8:28. (see below)

Romans 8:26-28 NIV
In the same way, the Spirit helps us in our weakness.
We do not know what we ought to pray for,
but the Spirit himself intercedes for us through wordless groans.
27 And he who searches our hearts knows the mind of the Spirit,
because the Spirit intercedes for God’s people in accordance with the will of God.
28 And we know that in all things God works for the good of those who love him,
who[a] have been called according to his purpose.

I can ask the Lord, but if it is something that I really don't need to know about, like someone's personal life, then He won't talk about that except that He will have the Spirit manifest through me in tongues. It is part of the normal Christian life, is it not?

Yes!
It should be part of the normal Christian life.

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[amigo de christo]

@St. SteVen ..let’s just stay focused on the Spirit please.

Why do you think that Nicodemus couldn’t understand Jesus, when he said you must be Born Again?

cause he was not yet born again . the world , the minds of men cannot grasp the things of GOD
That be why . JESUS SHEEP HEAR HIS VOICE . JESUS SHEEP are THE BORN AGAIN . BORN OF GOD , BORN SPIRITUALLY
and they CLING TO ER WORD OF THE LORD JESUS BELEIVING IN HE ALONE as the savoir , messiah , Christ and only name
whereby one may be saved. DANCE THAT JIG TO THE KING RITA . Dance that jig of praise to the GLORIOUS KING .

 

[St. SteVen]

Until and unless they have received the TRUE Lord Jesus Christ as the Savior, and stopped trusting in "Mary" and other entities .... they'll remain unsaved. It depends on whom they jave placed their trust. If they continue in idolatry, no, they're not saved.

Acts 4:10-12
[10]Be it known unto you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whom God raised from the dead, even by him doth this man stand here before you whole.
[11]This is the stone which was set at nought of you builders, which is become the head of the corner.
[12]Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.

Just believing in Jesus doesn't save a person. They need to place their [faith and trust in Christ, alone.... not this saint or that saint, or "Mary." So scripture lays out very specific parameters for salvation.

James 2:19
[19]Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.

I had a midwife who was very different. She was catholic, and yet, she prayed to Jesus. I never heard her pray to a saint. I didn't see shrines and rosaries everywhere in her home like I saw in my mother-in-law's home. (Sidenote: I had 4 homebirths with this midwife.)

I try to cut them some slack.
Rather than toss the whole Church in the dumpster, I see them as individuals with varying degrees of understanding.
They have a completely different background than Protestants. I don't try to force them into an evangelical box.
On the other hand, far too many believe that they are saved by the Church. That's a problem.


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[Ritajanice]

WWJD

What would Jesus Do??????

What He never did is just say a bunch of Scriptures! Are not those already written. I don't know about everyone, but I have a lot of Bibles. He once had me open and run a Christian bookstore for Him, and He still has me selling books on-line, so I have lot of Bible. Still, I have never come to this forum with the intent of trying to post the Bible!!

He has me come to this forum to preach the Word of God, and that to mean Him and that He wants His people listening to Him. Now I will provide some Scriptures that back that approach up. So here are a few to back up what He tells me to do:

2 Tim 4: 1 - 4 I solemnly charge you in the presence of God and of Christ Jesus, who is to judge the living and the dead, and by His appearing and His kingdom: preach the word; be ready in season and out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort, with great patience and instruction. For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but wanting to have their ears tickled, they will accumulate for themselves teachers in accordance to their own desires, and will turn away their ears from the truth and will turn aside to myths.

Now the Greek word used for "word" above is logos. And it is used in the following verses also.

Jn 1:1,2 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God.

and

Rev 19:13 He is clothed with a robe dipped in blood, and His name is called The Word of God.

Now when Jesus spoke He referred to something written to back up what He was saying, but by doing that He was not promoting the Scriptures but rather hearing what He had to say. He has not changed! If indeed you are hearing from Him you know that He is still the same today and always! It is not about the Scriptures, but the Scriptures are about Him!!

I was once told: "We don't use the Lord to preach the Scriptures, we use the Scriptures to preach the Lord."

That would seem obvious to anyone who actually hears from Him, isn't it. I mean unless you are trying to make and on-line Bible, you don't just post a bunch of Scriptures, right? And posting bunch of Scriptures does not mean you know the Lord, does it. In fact it may mean that you think the Scriptures themselves will save you!

Jn 5: 39, 40 You search the Scriptures because you think that in them you have eternal life; it is these that testify about Me; and you are unwilling to come to Me so that you may have life.

And if you talk to the Lord He points out other little things you might have missed, like the verse that follows:

Jn 5:41 “I do not receive glory from men;

Why would that verse follow the other 2?

Before listening to Him, I thought it just meant that they were seeking other people whom they knew at that time. But Jesus was not talking about that, He was talking about them 'searching the Scriptures" instead of coming and listening to Him. So He pointed out to me that the Scriptures were written by men! Yeah, He told them to write them, and He talked to those men who wrote them, even telling them what to write, but never-the-less He does not receive glory from men, not even the men who wrote the Scriptures. He gets is glory from His Father, the Holy Spirit, and His Kingdom! And His Kingdom if not of this world - He told Pilate that!

So those Jews then were thinking that because they had the Scriptures they had the glory of God, but have the Scriptures don't mean that! So why did we see a long post with nothing but Scriptures. Do we not understand that pride in ourselves can show up a number of ways?

Again, we don't point people to the Scriptures and thus preach the Scriptures, we point people to Jesus Christ and support that with the Scriptures, right?

So we tell them to seek Him and listen to Him, but will they? I have to tell you that is what He wants of us; that we seek Him and listen to Him!!

Ps 81:13 “Oh that My people would listen to Me,
That Israel would walk in My ways!

If you indeed listen to Him, you would know that is what is really on His heart!

◄ Matthew 7 ►

Berean Standard Bible Par ▾ Judging Others (Luke 6:37–42; Romans 14:1–12) 1“Do not judge, or you will be judged. 2For with the same judgment you pronounce, you will be judged; and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. 3Why do you look at the speck in your brother’s eye, but fail to notice the beam in your own eye? 4How can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ while there is still a beam in your own eye? 5You hypocrite! First take the beam out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye. 6Do not give dogs what is holy; do not throw your pearls before swine. If you do, they may trample them under their feet, and then turn and tear you to pieces. Ask, Seek, Knock (Luke 11:5–13) 7Ask, and it will be given to you; seek, and you will find; knock, and the door will be opened to you. 8For everyone who asks receives; he who seeks finds; and to him who knocks, the door will be opened. 9Which of you, if his son asks for bread, will give him a stone? 10Or if he asks for a fish, will give him a snake? 11So if you who are evil know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your Father in heaven give good things to those who ask Him! 12In everything, then, do to others as you would have them do to you. For this is the essence of the Law and the Prophets. The Narrow Gate (Luke 13:22–30) 13Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. 14But small is the gate and narrow the way that leads to life, and only a few find it. A Tree and Its Fruit (Luke 6:43–45) 15Beware of false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. 16By their fruit you will recognize them. Are grapes gathered from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? 17Likewise, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. 18A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit. 19Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20So then, by their fruit you will recognize them. 21Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of My Father in heaven. 22Many will say to Me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?’ 23Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you workers of lawlessness!’ The House on the Rock (Luke 6:46–49) 24Therefore everyone who hears these words of Mine and acts on them is like a wise man who built his house on the rock. 25The rain fell, the torrents raged, and the winds blew and beat against that house; yet it did not fall, because its foundation was on the rock. 26But everyone who hears these words of Mine and does not act on them is like a foolish man who built his house on sand. 27The rain fell, the torrents raged, and the winds blew and beat against that house, and it fell—and great was its collapse!” The Authority of Jesus 28When Jesus had finished saying these things, the crowds were astonished at His teaching, 29because He taught as one who had authority, and not as their scribes.

 

[amigo de christo]

I try to cut them some slack.
Rather than toss the whole Church in the dumpster, I see them as individuals with varying degrees of understanding.
They have a completely different background than Protestants. I don't try to force them into an evangelical box.
On the other hand, far too many believe that they are saved by the Church. That's a problem.


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if ye love them speak truth to them . IF you desire them to be in hells fire , just keep cutting them and the world some slack .
NOW WHICH ONE is it gonna be . Are we gonna hugs folks to hellsfire , or exhort TRUTH unto them , correcting them
warning them of dangerous and grievious errors and blasphemies.
Here let me give it in simplier terms .
DO YOU GOT ANY KIDS or grandkids .
Now visulize this . your kids or grandkids are all skating on a pond of thin ice . SPots are so thin they could not bear the weight of a cat .
I SEE YOUR CHILDREN or grand children circling ever closer to said thin ice
I just encourage and cheer them on and say HEY i love you ,
THE ICE BUSTS and they all drown and die .
WHAT are you gonna tell me when i say , HEY DUDE i was just cutting the kids some slack
they seemed like they were doing okay and i didnt want to seem so judgemntal or in the way of their fun .
WELL IT WONT WORK ON GOD EITHER . WE cannot let the children drown SPIRITUALLY . GET UP and warn them souls
to depart that wicked hole , okay you dont have to say wicked hole , BUT PLEASE WARN THEM about all the deadly dangerous
and blasphemies they be doing . HELP THEM .

 

[amigo de christo]

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◄ Matthew 7 ►

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Berean Standard Bible Par ▾ Judging Others (Luke 6:37–42; Romans 14:1–12) 1“Do not judge, or you will be judged. 2For with the same judgment you pronounce, you will be judged; and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. 3Why do you look at the speck in your brother’s eye, but fail to notice the beam in your own eye? 4How can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ while there is still a beam in your own eye? 5You hypocrite! First take the beam out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye. 6Do not give dogs what is holy; do not throw your pearls before swine. If you do, they may trample them under their feet, and then turn and tear you to pieces. Ask, Seek, Knock (Luke 11:5–13) 7Ask, and it will be given to you; seek, and you will find; knock, and the door will be opened to you. 8For everyone who asks receives; he who seeks finds; and to him who knocks, the door will be opened. 9Which of you, if his son asks for bread, will give him a stone? 10Or if he asks for a fish, will give him a snake? 11So if you who are evil know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your Father in heaven give good things to those who ask Him! 12In everything, then, do to others as you would have them do to you. For this is the essence of the Law and the Prophets. The Narrow Gate (Luke 13:22–30) 13Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. 14But small is the gate and narrow the way that leads to life, and only a few find it. A Tree and Its Fruit (Luke 6:43–45) 15Beware of false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. 16By their fruit you will recognize them. Are grapes gathered from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? 17Likewise, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. 18A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit. 19Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20So then, by their fruit you will recognize them. 21Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of My Father in heaven. 22Many will say to Me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?’ 23Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you workers of lawlessness!’ The House on the Rock (Luke 6:46–49) 24Therefore everyone who hears these words of Mine and acts on them is like a wise man who built his house on the rock. 25The rain fell, the torrents raged, and the winds blew and beat against that house; yet it did not fall, because its foundation was on the rock. 26But everyone who hears these words of Mine and does not act on them is like a foolish man who built his house on sand. 27The rain fell, the torrents raged, and the winds blew and beat against that house, and it fell—and great was its collapse!” The Authority of Jesus 28When Jesus had finished saying these things, the crowds were astonished at His teaching, 29because He taught as one who had authority, and not as their scribes.

Unleash them wonderful wordsof TRUTH dear sister . Flood this place with all those lovely reminders of pure and holy truth .
Stay dug in the scriptures .

 

[Ritajanice]

The verses are fabulous, but if you believed them you would point people to Him and not yourself!

So read them, seek Him, and stop telling yourself that you are the help.

◄ 1 Corinthians 2:14 ►

Audio Crossref Comment Greek Verse (Click for Chapter) New International Version The person without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God but considers them foolishness, and cannot understand them because they are discerned only through the Spirit. New Living Translation But people who aren’t spiritual can’t receive these truths from God’s Spirit. It all sounds foolish to them and they can’t understand it, for only those who are spiritual can understand what the Spirit means. English Standard Version The natural person does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are folly to him, and he is not able to understand them because they are spiritually discerned. Berean Standard Bible The natural man does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God. For they are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually discerned. Berean Literal Bible But the natural man does not accept the things of the Spirit of God; for they are foolishness to him, and he is not able to understand them, because spiritually they are discerned. King James Bible But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. New King James Version But the natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; nor can he know them,because they are spiritually discerned.

 

[amigo de christo]

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◄ 1 Corinthians 2:14 ►

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Audio Crossref Comment Greek Verse (Click for Chapter) New International Version The person without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God but considers them foolishness, and cannot understand them because they are discerned only through the Spirit. New Living Translation But people who aren’t spiritual can’t receive these truths from God’s Spirit. It all sounds foolish to them and they can’t understand it, for only those who are spiritual can understand what the Spirit means. English Standard Version The natural person does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are folly to him, and he is not able to understand them because they are spiritually discerned. Berean Standard Bible The natural man does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God. For they are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually discerned. Berean Literal Bible But the natural man does not accept the things of the Spirit of God; for they are foolishness to him, and he is not able to understand them, because spiritually they are discerned. King James Bible But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. New King James Version But the natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; nor can he know them,because they are spiritually discerned.

Rather odd what he just wrote . He said if you believed the scriptures you would point to Christ and not to yourself . THAT MADE ZERO SENSE .
The scriptures are REMINDERS OF JESUS CHRIST . You are not pointing to self sister , YOU are pointing to JESUS CHRIST .
KEEP ON with the scriptures . You see when we bring the scrips it will indeed expose the thoughts of men gone wrong .
This is why folks often NO LIKEY those who ALWAYS do bring lots of scrips . Cause they cannotget a strong hold nor overcome
the scrips . KEEP USING THEM . USE THEM ALWAYS SISTER . we point to CHRIST , WE POINT TO HIS WORDS
the INSPIRED WORDS OF GOD . FIRE AWAY with all sound doctrine .

 

[Ritajanice]

Unleash them wonderful wordsof TRUTH dear sister . Flood this place with all those lovely reminders of pure and holy truth .
Stay dug in the scriptures .

Brother, as the word of God says,His sheep know his voice.

And I say...which I’ve had to learn through the Holy Spirit.....Never entertain a strangers voice, it’s so very full of confusion and lies......I do as you say.....” RUN” like mad from them....LOL.

 

[Ritajanice]

Rather odd what he just wrote . He said if you believed the scriptures you point to Christ and not self . THAT MADE ZERO SENSE

That is why I never answer his posts....God answers them for me....with his Living word....Amen!!

 

[amigo de christo]

Brother, as the word of God says,His sheep know his voice.

And I say...which I’ve had to learn through the Holy Spirit.....Never entertain a strangers voice, it’s so very full of confusion and lies......I do as you say.....” RUN” like mad from them....LOL.