Men, how do you keep track of your wallet/keys?

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In any case, I thought, what would I achieve by punishing another's flesh? It would be a short lived gain because the resentment built up in the other would only fester, a bit like what happens in any conflict.

I decided no. How could I beat someone up and then share the good news they are loved by God? It's just not congruent.
Then I thought of Jesus submitting himself to his Father even while he didn't want to suffer and had the ability to stop his attackers.

Well the way I figure it, I do not carry a pistol to punish flesh and blood brothers & sisters. I pistol is for when there is no time to pray because someone is attacking you. We've all been attacked in our lifetimes so we know what it looks like and know how fast it happens when it does happen. So I dont carry to punish the man who is trying to rob me or beat me up. I cary the pistol to stop fights and violence. If they stop and turn off the attack, let them go. The goal is to survive, not to kill somebody. They have to be the one who wont stop and so it forces me to shoot them or perhaps die myself. And let's face it, I like to spread the good news too about the Gospel and Jesus (!!!) but there's a right time and place to evangelize and a time not to. You can't evangelize a man who's attacking you. No time to psycho analyze him, he's coming at you with his fists or a knife or even a gun! I like spreading the word, but that's not the time!

A pistol is to stop fights. It might even give you time to think or pray. I have carried a pistol everywhere for my entire marriage and close to 40 years now. Would you like to guess how many people that I have shot? I havent shot even one person. In fact, I've never had a gun related charge or any type of violence charge, even domestic violence, Nothing. Because I dont want to shoot anyone. They are my Brothers and Sisters here on earth. We wrestle not with flesh and blood

Ephesians 6:12
12 For we are not fighting against flesh-and-blood enemies, but against evil rulers and authorities of the unseen world, against mighty powers in this dark world, and against evil spirits in the heavenly places.../NLT

It's the evil spirits behind those people that are the enemy, not the people! I hope and pray to God that I never have to really shoot a person on this earth. I have been praying this prayer for a long time now. The goal is to survive as long as possible, not shoot people or judge them or punish them, and if we met under better circumstances, perhaps I could evangelize them! Just not when they're attacking me, lol.

I have never shot anyone or had any type of gun charge, because I dont start trouble! I have had a few close calls when I was carrying, but never any shots fired except I did repel one (Attempted!) Home Invasion on my house where some stocky guy rang the bell and said his car was broke down can he use my phone? His car is right in front of my house! My spidey sense went off and I said no I dont have a phone right now...and it was on! Right on the front porch by the door. He was all over me in a second and we scuffled and broke my storm window on the screen door and at the first lull in the fighting when he drew back a step to get his breath, I drew my Colt 1911 on him and pointed it right at his face. I figured he would run, but he didn't.

He looked at me holding the 45 for about 3 seconds...and then started forward towards me! (Who advances on a drawn 45?!!!) But I had my door open again and I did not want to shoot him! And I know very well that Police frown on warning shots, but I really didnt want to shoot him and I did a quick calculation...Do I have time to give him a warning shot into the ground while backing into the house and still have time to shoot him if he still keeps coming? I do! I was all practiced up! So I shot one round into the grass (never into the air!) and looked at his reaction. That 45 was very loud and by the grace of God, it spoke his language because he went back to his car and guess what? It started right up! I went in the house and felt pretty good about it how it turned out. Then I just knew that one of the neighbors had to call the police. It sounded like a big gunshot! So I called them real fast before they got there and said send a car I had an attempted home invasion and I fired one warning shot. Ahh, so that worked out, I was now the victim and not the aggressor so no charges were filed. They made me find the empty brass case and I did. One cop tried to tell me I should have shot that guy because of Colorado's Make My Day law, you have no duty to retreat.

I told that cop, yeah but I aint no cop and dont have a team with me and besides you cops would prolly charge me with it and put me in jail! Besides, I heard the story of another guy who carried a 45 and took his wife to dinner and 3 men tried to rob them with knives as they walked back to their car. And he shot all three of them and one maybe two died. But he did his job and saved his wife and wasnt charged at all over the incident! Everything's ok, right? Nope. His Wife left him because of the incident. She said that's all she can see in him now is him shooting people down. It was very traumatizing to her, she was there. SO he did the right thing and he lost because of it. It's better to not have to shoot than it is to shoot.

They say shooting someone changes you inside too. You aint the same guy after that, for most normal folks anyhoo. And how could it not affect you? Of course it does and never in a good way. No sir, Brother...I do Not want to be forced into shooting someone. Besides, I'd rather have it and not need it rather than than need it and not have it. There wasn't time to pray when that guy attacked me at my door! Besides, Jesus did say, hey you should have a sword or two!
 

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Since posting #20 just under an hour ago I read this article in our national news. I thought it of sufficient insight to post here. Even if you don't read the whole article, at least sample its flavour.
 

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Today I wonder about muscle memory (like an instinctive response) and I consciously remind myself that my protector is my Saviour and if my goods get taken so be it (as unwanted as that is) or my person gets violated, I will trust him even with my life.....and if I die, it will be gain because the next I will be conscious of is being resurrected with an imperishable body at Jesus second coming.

Muscle memory becomes an instinctive response when you practice your draws 10.000 times, lol.

I was good friends with my neighbor around the corner 1/2 block down and I was going over to see him when a friend of mine showed up, so he walked with me. It was just up to the corner and left 1/2 block and we rounded the corner and (it was a triplex of flats on the corner and the one in the middle of the three opened his door and let his dog out. I dunno what kind of dog it was it looked like a pit pull on steroids, lol. But he knew we was there and charged right at me and my friend snarling and stuff. I instinctively drew a line in the sand in my head where I could still draw when he crossed that line. And that big dog came charging full speed across that line and I drew my 45 out and shot one time right in front of it in the grass...and started backing up! I figured my friend was terrified, lol. But that dogs reaction when that shot went off right in front of him was just like in the cartoons! 4 paws in the air and scrambling to stop and go home to his house! Man that dog changed his mind fast!

My friend said later that that attack scared the you know what out of him! And that he didnt realize I was carrying a pistol with me and said I drew it so fast that it was like it grew in my hand, so thanks for saving us friend! But even then in this dog attack, I didnt want to shoot the dog. The neighbor that owns the dog Loves his dog. He proved it the next day when I got home from work that dog had a brand new chain and tie out in the yard! I felt great about that! He had to hear that shot, he had just let the dog out! He prolly thought I shot his dog at first! And felt some appreciation that I didnt shoot it? I think so. Of course he's glad I didnt shoot him!

So I have had enough close calls to like carrying arms. I have more stories than those but that about the most exciting one! My friend said the gun looked like like it suddenly grew in my hand. That's muscle memory right there. and why that went down so smoothly.
 

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I got to read part of one about finding grace in an America riven by retribution. But that's the only one.
All three are the same article. Beats me why it uploaded as it did.....and as I said, couldn't and can't clear it.
 

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This thread went down hill quickly. where's the wallet part
Yeah....topics are pretty easy to morph. Seems like most interactions are like that......but I wouldn't call it 'downhill'. I would say, a page is turned....which can be a good thing.

When it comes to the wallet dilemma, all I can offer is, I don't carry anything with me (wallet, phone, watch etc etc) except when absolutely necessary. Primarily I go through life as a 'clean skin' I love it!
 
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Muscle memory becomes an instinctive response when you practice your draws 10.000 times, lol.

I was good friends with my neighbor around the corner 1/2 block down and I was going over to see him when a friend of mine showed up, so he walked with me. It was just up to the corner and left 1/2 block and we rounded the corner and (it was a triplex of flats on the corner and the one in the middle of the three opened his door and let his dog out. I dunno what kind of dog it was it looked like a pit pull on steroids, lol. But he knew we was there and charged right at me and my friend snarling and stuff. I instinctively drew a line in the sand in my head where I could still draw when he crossed that line. And that big dog came charging full speed across that line and I drew my 45 out and shot one time right in front of it in the grass...and started backing up! I figured my friend was terrified, lol. But that dogs reaction when that shot went off right in front of him was just like in the cartoons! 4 paws in the air and scrambling to stop and go home to his house! Man that dog changed his mind fast!

My friend said later that that attack scared the you know what out of him! And that he didnt realize I was carrying a pistol with me and said I drew it so fast that it was like it grew in my hand, so thanks for saving us friend! But even then in this dog attack, I didnt want to shoot the dog. The neighbor that owns the dog Loves his dog. He proved it the next day when I got home from work that dog had a brand new chain and tie out in the yard! I felt great about that! He had to hear that shot, he had just let the dog out! He prolly thought I shot his dog at first! And felt some appreciation that I didnt shoot it? I think so. Of course he's glad I didnt shoot him!

So I have had enough close calls to like carrying arms. I have more stories than those but that about the most exciting one! My friend said the gun looked like like it suddenly grew in my hand. That's muscle memory right there. and why that went down so smoothly.
Podcast 183 has just come online. I think it speaks to our conversation here. You might be interested?
 

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"how do you keep track of your wallet/keys?"

They are on my person at all times I am awake and dressed. Wallet in back pocket, car keys in right front pocket, house keys in left front pocket. At bed time they all go on to the bedside table.
This way I don't lose them, my phone and tablet, now that is a different story!
Same here. And if the phone isn't in the belt holster on my pants, it's on the Qi charger.
 

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This is going to seem a little silly. I want to get Mr. Duck a Christmas present that he will be aware of if he sees this, but it's fine.

For women, it is easier. We usually have a purse or some kind of bag. It's in plain sight every time.

He gets tired after work and has a hard time keeping track of things. Last year, I bought a key finder, which worked great but now I need to buy new batteries.

His greatest difficulty is keeping track of his wallet. I was thinking of getting a wallet chain but I'm not sure if they're uncomfortable or more difficult, or dangerous because he works with machinery.

I was wondering if any men had any good suggestions aside from those.

I have a catch-all bowl already by the door. It hasn't worked.
I’m sure you’ve probably already figured out what you are getting him. I don’t really have any input other than you have already given him the best thing …another set of eyes which are yours. It’s cute how you care about him finding his wallet. I read through the thread because it’s the opposite in our home. I am the one who hides things constantly! My husband always knows where his wallet and keys are at all times. He can hand me things, and ask for them later and I have no idea where I stuck them. I can come up with the most creative places to hide things, even hiding them from myself! I can lose my purse too, even in our house. My husband always is another set of eyes for me which I bet gets old for him. I don’t do it on purpose. The only thing I seldom loose is my glasses. But I have lost them before where it took us all day to find where I stuck them. having another set of eyes helps.
 

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With an NRA (National Rifleman's Association) card. Don't mess with him. It's highly likely he's got a concealed carry permit in there too.

Yeah but who really needs a carry permit? I never went down and got a CCW permit from anyone. Some of my friends did, they had to take a class and that cost them $75 plus...if they give you a permit and you sign it and use it, are you not now acquiescing your God given right to self protection to them? Can they now revoke your permit and take that right from you? Maybe! So I never went down and did it. I don't need their permission or card in my wallet. At first I thought it was a Constitutional right but over time I have learned that my rights are God given and come with life. The Constitution is not for the people, to confer rights to them, it is a document for the Government to refer to for how far can they go? What can they do or not do? That's all.

I don't need no steenkin permit!
 

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Same here. And if the phone isn't in the belt holster on my pants, it's on the Qi charger.

I put my house keys on a separate ring and the ignition key on a separate ring and carry all my keys on a D ring which I just clip to my pants. My last one wore out the spring so I got a new one and got a locking D ring this time! I don't lose my keys. Then in wintertime I can leave my truck running while I go in the store by leaving just the ignition key in it and talking house keys and vehicle keys off of it, lock up the truck and leave it running and have a key when I get back, lol.

I hardly ever carry my phone, lol. The only time I do is when I'll need the GPS on it.. WHo wants to be tracked? Or hassled with phone calls or texts when I'm out and about and busy? Nah, they can marry their phone if their still married to a girl, but I aint!
 
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We're on the brink of war Brother! Evil is getting worse all around us and it's not hard to see.

Besides, it was in those days that I was robbed (1980's) that I began getting into guns as a hobby. I noticed how cheap guns were back then and went whoa these are going go way up over time. So I bought and practiced and bought and practiced and I knew in the back of the mind that the world will go nuts one day and people will fight. I wanted to be ahead of the game. So I carried constantly and practiced every weekend.

Then I got married. Our first date was going and shooting 22 rifles! (I already had plans so I just took her along!) and after we got married, every time I got a new holster I'd wear it around the house with my gun unloaded, and practice drawing down on different things. The TV! Swooosh I draw my gun and aquire a firing stance sighted in on the TV. Drove my wife nuts! Once aint bad, twice is funny, 200 times an day made her go (TILT) like a pinball machine, lol! But I had to break in the new holster and build muscle memory into my draw so it would always be smooth with no wasted motion. She got over it. I taught her how to shoot too. Bought her a pistol. But I got used to carrying it around all the time and thinking back...I don't think I've not carried a pistol even one day for about the last 38 to 40 years. So of course I carry around the house. I live alone now!

There was three thick looking punk teenagers walking on the other side of the street across from my house. I was watching them on camera and they stopped and were talking I guess. But the one of them walks across the road and up onto my porch, and I'm watching him live time. He didn't knock, he peered through the front window and then went and tried the door, which was locked. Then he went back across the road and the three of them walked away.

So I were to have a home invasion of three thick thugs, I wouldn't want a pistol, I'd want a rifle. I'll carry my pistol downstairs to get a cup of coffee because I dont have to carry a rifle around yet. A pistol is to fight your way back to your rifle that you shouldn't have laid down in the first place. True!

We're just in the last moments of peace time when the bullets start flying so it don't seen like it to most folks. Get a camera system brother! If you see people trying your door, you'll be glad you carry around the house!
It's a hobby thing for him. His dad is big on it and was a hunter. (I say was because I'm not sure if his dad still hunts.) Mr. Duck is not big on hunting, but he does like target practice for hobby.

I've had bad experiences in the past, so I I hate them, and he knows that, so he's very gentle with me about it and tries to be respectful.

Having said that, it worked for the most part. I have only had to help him find it maybe two or three times in the last week.

This thread went down hill quickly. where's the wallet part
Lol that's alright, I'm not mad. I already figured it out anyway. Sling bag!
 

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It's a hobby thing for him. His dad is big on it and was a hunter. (I say was because I'm not sure if his dad still hunts.) Mr. Duck is not big on hunting, but he does like target practice for hobby.

I've had bad experiences in the past, so I I hate them, and he knows that, so he's very gentle with me about it and tries to be respectful.

Having said that, it worked for the most part. I have only had to help him find it maybe two or three times in the last week.

I'm not sure if I'm still a hunter now either, lol. The Lord displaced me from Colorado and brought me back to Ohio after 30 years, so I have no clue where to go hunting here! I have a buddy who keeps threatening to take me hunting on his private land down south, but so far, I haven't seen it! Dangit. I wanted to go hunting here, for the one thing I havent done yet. Handgun Hunting. And it's legal here and I sure do have the right gun for it. Sigh. Maybe some day, lol.

I would like to caution you that, there is no safety in ignorance. So since you live with guns in the house (and may even have little ones) that you should learn those things. Gun safety, how to shoot, all of that. You shying away from guns because of past experiences leaves you lacking in what you should know. Look at this way, you can't child-proof a gun, and you also can't just keep them away from them so they wont get hurt, but some day, they will grow up a little bit and be over at their friends when their friend pulls his Dad's .38 out of the sock drawer and starts waving it around. You wont be there to save them. They have to know how to react in that situation! That knowledge doesn't come from ignorance, it comes from familiarity and safety protocols and hands on experience t home and at the range. We call that...gun-proofing the kids.

I had my kids up there at 2 yrs old! Shooting 22 shorts out of a teeny revolver, with me basically covering them completely and holding the gun so all they really had to do was pull the trigger! Then they got bigger, and more capable and I could back up ine step and let them shoot at shaken up soda cans of pop. And when that kids hits that can and it sprays all over, they can see the power that is there and get a big kick out of it!

Then I went and got the empty split can of soda that he just shot and gave it to him and said, fix it, make it better. And they can't so they stand there looking dumbfounded and I know it's the right time to say...that's what would happen to your Brother or your Mother if you shot them! You can't fix it, don't shoot nobody! Be safe. And they were able to understand it, that guns holds responsibility for safety.

And you know what happened because I started teaching them from such a young age? Now that they're older they have not departed from gun safety. They are 37 & 38 now and have done many stupid things in life....but never with a gun.

So in my mind, you have a responsibility to the children to help teach them, so you have to learn too! Go to the range with your husband and help gun-proof your kids. If you have two kids who holds the one kid while dad is up on the firing line with the other kid? You do! Two kids? Prefect. Two parents. One kid? Who's going to take some pictures? You should be there anyway, see what I mean?
 
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Men, how do you keep track of your wallet/keys?

I use the intelligence and common sense the Lord gave me... I put them in the top drawer of my chester drawers anytime they are not in my pocket.

That way I can always find both... they're either in my pocket or in my chester drawers thumbsup2.gif