That is fine if that is the way you believe. You do not have to justify it before anyone.
Many Are Called But Few Chosen = Matthew 22;1-10
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That is fine if that is the way you believe. You do not have to justify it before anyone.
Many were called to repentance in that day, and few where chosen. In that day, the apostles went around spreading the news about christ, being hindered by Satan, and not only that they died for their faith. Some people remained alive, and remembered the message, and continues to have hope that Yeshua would return and would be seen and they would been taken onward from the life they were experencing in their areas of life, when they gathered at Jerusalem at the temple mount. Mothers who were pregnant in these days suffered, people started to eat each other because of the famine having no food, and then the Romans came in and slaughtered 1,000,000 people in the face of God's wrath upon them which was justifyiable.
If you think that God is still angry with people today, or that God has not done away with all your past, present, and future sins, you will struggle with yourself throughout your entire life. Yahava elected a group of people, just like in the old testament who did not put a knee to baal. This group of people was the bride of Christ, and Yeshua returned for them. However, if you believe that this is not true, you will continue to struggle in this world looking at everything around you and not realizing that God through Christ has reconciled the world back unto himself.
All there is left is - to have faith and to love. So simply yet difficult to grasp.
If you think that God is still angry with people today, or that God has not done away with all your past, present, and future sins, you will struggle with yourself throughout your entire life. Yahava elected a group of people, just like in the old testament who did not put a knee to baal. This group of people was the bride of Christ, and Yeshua returned for them. However, if you believe that this is not true, you will continue to struggle in this world looking at everything around you and not realizing that God through Christ has reconciled the world back unto himself.
All there is left is - to have faith and to love. So simply yet difficult to grasp.
Ritajanice
Born-Again
Amen!!...we just discuss....it’s what we all believe the Holy Spirit is testifying with our spirit.
Everyone should be allowed to voice what they believe, Without being attacked.
God showed me this the other day...where many of us were attacking each other, because of different beliefs.
We are all searching for the true word of God.
Behold
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Its not my "interpretation" @Ritajanice
All, means All. Its the same context as "world" in John 3:16
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| Audio Crossref Comment Greek Verse (Click for Chapter) New International Version And I, when I am lifted up from the earth, will draw ALL people to myself.” New Living Translation And when I am lifted up from the earth, I will draw EVERYONE to myself.” English Standard Version And I, when I am lifted up from the earth, will draw all people to myself.” Berean Standard Bible And I, when I am lifted up from the earth, will draw everyone to Myself.” Berean Literal Bible And I, if I am lifted up from the earth, will draw all to Myself." King James Bible And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me. New King James Version And I, if I am lifted up from the earth, will draw all peoples to Myself.” New American Standard Bible And I, if I am lifted up from the earth, will draw all people to Myself.” NASB 1995 “And I, if I am lifted up from the earth, will draw all men to Myself.” NASB 1977 “And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men to Myself.” Legacy Standard Bible And I, if I am lifted up from the earth, will draw all men to Myself.” |
Yes, Im sometimes bigoted when it comes to scriptures and how they are precieved. By the spirit however, to hope that God guides them to truth is what is needed. So many different people in the world, and knowing God is not a respecter of persons: that to me means that my decision needs to be to love those who disagree or even do not care about the LORD at all, or even Jesus for that matter. God does love them, and he also loves those who are seeking out for him, both parties are going to be rewarded and it seems its individually a responsiblity to love your neighbor as yourself and sometimes that means allow them to think and decide for themselves. As far I know most people do not like when people dominate over them and their own beliefs; therefore its okay to have liberty, and share when lead by the spirit and let then decide. To fight and bicker and moan and groan is normally of the flesh which is opposed to the Spirit. Thank you, Rita.
Ritajanice
Born-Again
I agree 100% ...it also says in God’s word.
Romans 8:29
29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstbornamong many brethren.
It also says All that he draws.
Everyone that HE DRAWS....man cannot draw themselves to God.
As a non believer I knew in my heart I was searching for answers within myself, but, I certainly didn’t know God was drawing me to His Son.
We serve a most POWERFUL GOD....His ways and thoughts we could never comprehend...and a Born Again knows this.
That’s why we walk in the faith that he gave us...to believe in his Son and follow him, through the Spirit of God.
Ritajanice
Born-Again
God’s word says....All that he draws to the Son.
I too stand on the word of God.
John 6:44-51 KJV
No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day. It is written in the prophets, And they shall be all taught of God. Every man therefore that hath heard, and hath learned of the Father, cometh unto me. Not that any man hath seen the Father, save he which is of God, he hath seen the Father. Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me hath everlasting life. I am that bread of life. Your fathers did eat manna in the wilderness, and are dead. This is the bread which cometh down from heaven, that a man may eat thereof, and not die. I am the living bread which came down from heaven: if any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever: and the bread that I will give is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world.
Behold
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JESUS SAID """"And when I am lifted up from the earth, I will draw EVERYONE to myself.”""""
Jesus is God.
He said "He Draws"..
This reminds me of the study that was done on Pistis (Faith), God persuades people to repentance and look towards him and his son by and through the promises that come through the Son of God, who was the Son of Man. People are drawn in when hearing about Yahava and decide to either go forward and seeking or rejecting and standing back.
Behold
Well-Known Member
JESUS SAID """"And when I am lifted up from the earth, I will draw EVERYONE to myself.”""""
That's Jesus talking.....
Ritajanice
Born-Again
Thank You Mathew for posting what you believe..
For me, I’m unable to Love my neighbour as my self...I rely on the Holy Spirit to help me do that...his word must penetrate my heart..if that makes sense.
Ritajanice
Born-Again
Brother..I am not arguing over this...you dismissed my post and posted this..I will leave it there.
And leave you with God’s word.
John 6:44-51 KJV
No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day. It is written in the prophets, And they shall be all taught of God. Every man therefore that hath heard, and hath learned of the Father, cometh unto me. Not that any man hath seen the Father, save he which is of God, he hath seen the Father. Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me hath everlasting life. I am that bread of life. Your fathers did eat manna in the wilderness, and are dead. This is the bread which cometh down from heaven, that a man may eat thereof, and not die. I am the living bread which came down from heaven: if any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever: and the bread that I will give is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world
Absolutely, without Christ we can not do anything. He gives the holy spirit and the spirit of Christ lives within us. Amen. Have a good day, off to work now.
Have a good day, behold love you, and enjoy your friday. I have to go on to work. Im not so in my flesh as in needing to correct everyone so quickly anymore as I use to be, gotta rely on the spirit and rest snd relax in Christ my friend. Take care.
Ritajanice
Born-Again
Amen Brother...and may I say Lord...I can see we are both growing and maturing in your name.
Why , because our eyes and ears are focused on you and only you.
Have a good day at work, @MatthewG
Ritajanice
Born-Again
Praise God!!..Amen!!
Excellent words spoke straight to my heart....Hallelujah a break through, that only the word of God can do.
Behold
Well-Known Member
I also left you with Jesus's very words.
He said ALL... and if GOD is Christ, if God is Jesus, then that is God calling.... isn't it?
And......you "dismissed " the verse.
Also, i dont post "opinion".
Many here do, but im not that one.
Ritajanice
Born-Again
Brother, you go by that word you posted..he also said...which I left with you.
John 6:44-51 KJV
No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day. It is written in the prophets, And they shall be all taught of God. Every man therefore that hath heard, and hath learned of the Father, cometh unto me. Not that any man hath seen the Father, save he which is of God, he hath seen the Father. Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me hath everlasting life. I am that bread of life. Your fathers did eat manna in the wilderness, and are dead. This is the bread which cometh down from heaven, that a man may eat thereof, and not die. I am the living bread which came down from heaven: if any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever: and the bread that I will give is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world
Ritajanice
Born-Again
Hi again @Behold ...
All does not mean everyone...he doesn’t say he will draw everyone he says this.
All does not mean everyone...he doesn’t say he will draw everyone he says this.
| Audio Crossref Comment Greek Verse (Click for Chapter) New International Version And I, when I am lifted up from the earth, will draw all people to myself.” New Living Translation And when I am lifted up from the earth, I will draw everyone to myself.” English Standard Version And I, when I am lifted up from the earth, will draw all people to myself.” Berean Standard Bible And I, when I am lifted up from the earth, will draw everyone to Myself.” |
Behold
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The "drawing" that we are referring to.. is the Holy Spirit.
Notice.. ."Christ is THAT Spirit".
and....
"God is A Spirit"..
This is all the same........its the Holy Spirit.
Jesus isn't on the Cross now, So, His Spirit, 2000 yrs later is still "drawing"...
Notice this verse, as a way to connect all this...
"God hath raised Jesus from the Dead"..
Right?
But Jesus said... "no man taketh my life from me.. I have the power to lay it Down.. and I have the POWER to take it up"..
So, that is Jesus doing this...."God hath raised Him from the Dead".
Its all the same, as both God and Jesus are the Holy Spirit.
"God is A Spirit" = The Holy Spirit.... and "Christ is THAT Spirit"..
So, the Drawing of a person to the Cross, is by Spirit... and that is the same.. in Both.
This is why Jesus said "i Draw", and your verse says "The Father" does it.
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