Many Are Called But Few Chosen = Matthew 22;1-10

[Ritajanice]

Jesus said...>"if i be lifted up (on the Cross) i will draw ALL people to me"

"For God so loved the WORLD...(not just the elect), that He GAVE Jesus"..

A.) To ALL, to EVERYONE, to the WORLD.


John Calvinism is Satanic.

Avoid.

All......doesn’t mean every one.

He doesn’t say “ Everyone “ in his word though does he.

Therefore cannot be added to his word.....unless of course you can show me where God says.....” everyone “ in the Bible?

You interpret of All means everyone.....is your interpretation.....it’s not the word of God.

 

[Ritajanice]

They are chosen to be saved and holy and they shall be, and called

I must say this does make perfect sense to me...maybe because God chose me....therefore I find it impossible to relate to those who say they chose God.

I did NOT choose to become Born Again.....God chose me ...I will NEVER refute that ever....many have tried to get me to though.....failed every time as their word is NOT my Father’s word...therefore couldn’t possibly penetrate my heart to hear.

They even tried to say that I had hardened my heart to hearing his truth....LOL.

 

[quietthinker]

All......doesn’t mean every one.

He doesn’t say “ Everyone “ in his word though does he.

Therefore cannot be added to his word.....unless of course you can show me where God says.....” everyone “ in the Bible?

You interpret of All means everyone.....is your interpretation.....it’s not the word of God.

Be encouraged Rj

Acts 2:21
‘AND IT SHALL BE THAT EVERYONE WHO CALLS ON THE NAME OF THE LORD WILL BE SAVED.’

Romans 10:13
for “WHOEVER WILL CALL ON THE NAME OF THE LORD WILL BE SAVED.

2 Peter 3:9
The Lord is not slow about His promise, as some count slowness, but is
patient toward you, not wishing for any to perish but for all to come to repentance.

 

[Ritajanice]

Be encouraged Rj

Acts 2:21
‘AND IT SHALL BE THAT EVERYONE WHO CALLS ON THE NAME OF THE LORD WILL BE SAVED.’

Romans 10:13
for “WHOEVER WILL CALL ON THE NAME OF THE LORD WILL BE SAVED.

Be encouraged also @quietthinker


Whoever calls on the Name of Jesus....must be drawn by the Father...no one can come to Jesus only through God.

And we most definitely are taught of God through his Holy Spirit...he testifies the Living/ true word of God to our spirit....one must be “ Born Again “ in order for that to happen.

John 6:44-51 KJV​

No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day. It is written in the prophets, And they shall be all taught of God. Every man therefore that hath heard, and hath learned of the Father, cometh unto me. Not that any man hath seen the Father, save he which is of God, he hath seen the Father. Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me hath everlasting life. I am that bread of life. Your fathers did eat manna in the wilderness, and are dead. This is the bread which cometh down from heaven, that a man may eat thereof, and not die. I am the living bread which came down from heaven: if any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever: and the bread that I will give is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world.

2 Peter 3:9
The Lord is not slow about His promise, as some count slowness, but is
patient toward you, not wishing for any to perish but for all to come to repentance.

Berean Standard Bible
Everyone the Father gives Me will come to Me, and the one who comes to Me I will never drive away.


Meaning...everyone the Father gives to Jesus...

No one can come to the Son unless God draws them....Not One.

The Father is the one who chooses who he births in the Spirit.

Our will is already inline with that of God’s, when we are birthed in the Spirit..we were predestined to become Born Again ...therefore God does not force his will on anyone!
...our hearts were open to God to receive his Spirit...once we were drawn by him, through Godly sorrow/ repentance that God also brought us to....not human repentance....and before any of this can happen..we believe in the name of Jesus...who God also brought into my mind..


No one knows how he does it either as it’s like the wind.


All the Glory goes to God regarding the rebirth...that is when we become that New Creation in Christ.

 

[quietthinker]

Whoever calls on the Name of Jesus....must be drawn by the Father...no one can come to Jesus only through God.

Berean Standard Bible
Everyone the Father gives Me will come to Me, and the one who comes to Me I will never drive away.


Meaning...everyone the Father gives to Jesus.

John 12:32 And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me.

The Father gives all to Jesus and Jesus never drives them away; many leave Jesus because they don't like him; they have other allegiances.

You see a flame, you are drawn to it, does it mean you stay? Jesus draws all because he loves all, he rejects none, if men don't stay is that God's fault?
When the bright angel we now know as the Devil parted company with God in his heart, was it God's doing?

 

[Ritajanice]

You see a flame, you are drawn to it, does it mean you stay? Jesus draws all because he loves all, he rejects none, if men don't stay is that God's fault?

When the bright angel we now know as the Devil parted company with God in his heart, was it God's doing?

What has this got to do with ,what we are discussing above...please explain @quietthinker ?

Did God know it would happen?





These are your words and interpretation of God’s word.

Jesus / God does not say he draws everyone to Jesus.

Only who the Father draws will become children of God...those are the Born Again/ who have been supernaturally birthed in the Spirit.

 

[quietthinker]

These are your words and interpretation of God’s word.

Jesus / God does not say he draws everyone to Jesus.

Only who the Father draws will become children of God...those are the Born Again/ who have been supernaturally birthed in the Spirit.

John 12:32 And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me.

Of course you can say all doesn't mean all but then they are your words not the scriptures/ God's

 

[Ritajanice]

John 12:32 And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me.

Of course you can say all doesn't mean all but then they are your words not the scriptures/ God's

They aren’t my words...they are God’s word..I posted scripture.

John 6:44-51 KJV​

No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day. It is written in the prophets, And they shall be all taught of God. Every man therefore that hath heard, and hath learned of the Father, cometh unto me. Not that any man hath seen the Father, save he which is of God, he hath seen the Father. Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me hath everlasting life. I am that bread of life. Your fathers did eat manna in the wilderness, and are dead. This is the bread which cometh down from heaven, that a man may eat thereof, and not die. I am the living bread which came down from heaven: if any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever: and the bread that I will give is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world.


All means......All who God draws.....you can’t deny the word of God..that is heresy!

 

[quietthinker]

They aren’t my words...they are God’s word..I posted scripture.

but your interpretation.

 

[Ritajanice]

but your interpretation.

As I’ve just posted, God’s word...which is very clear in what he is saying through his Spirit.

Berean Standard Bible
Everyone the Father gives Me will come to Me, and the one who comes to Me I will never drive away.


It doesn’t say everyone who chooses to birth themselves in the Spirit and follow God...not that you said that...just an example....

It doesn’t say..give me a break Lord I’m not ready to receive your spirit yet...

Calling on the name of Jesus is brought about by God...Not us...we wouldn’t know how to call on Jesus Name.

I’m not arguing Brother...just discussing with you....we’re both searching for his truth...God Bless.

 

[quietthinker]

As I’ve just posted, God’s word...which is very clear in what he is saying through his Spirit.

Berean Standard Bible
Everyone the Father gives Me will come to Me, and the one who comes to Me I will never drive away.

that's right, he will never drive them out, he will welcome them but they might drive him out after they have been drawn (God's initiative)

 

[quietthinker]

As I’ve just posted, God’s word...which is very clear in what he is saying through his Spirit.

Berean Standard Bible
Everyone the Father gives Me will come to Me, and the one who comes to Me I will never drive away.


It doesn’t say everyone who chooses to birth themselves in the Spirit and follow God...not that you said that...just an example.

Jesus drew Judas and Judas responded yet ultimately, did Jesus throw Judas out or did Judas throw Jesus out?

 

[Ritajanice]

Jesus drew Judas and Judas responded yet ultimately, did Jesus throw Judas out or did Judas throw Jesus out?

This was all predestined by God to happen...

 

[quietthinker]

This was all predestined by God to happen...

You mean just like earthquakes and floods that kill thousands ...and diseases like covid and aids and thalidomide babies without limbs?

 

[Ritajanice]

that's right, he will never drive them out, he will welcome them but they might drive him out after they have been drawn (God's initiative)

No, I don’t believe this theology. how can they drive them out, when they have been predestined to become Born Again.

Plus what you say above, you have added to God word..

 

[MatthewG]

Many were called to repentance in that day, and few where chosen. In that day, the apostles went around spreading the news about christ, being hindered by Satan, and not only that they died for their faith. Some people remained alive, and remembered the message, and continues to have hope that Yeshua would return and would be seen and they would been taken onward from the life they were experencing in their areas of life, when they gathered at Jerusalem at the temple mount. Mothers who were pregnant in these days suffered, people started to eat each other because of the famine having no food, and then the Romans came in and slaughtered 1,000,000 people in the face of God's wrath upon them which was justifyiable.

If you think that God is still angry with people today, or that God has not done away with all your past, present, and future sins, you will struggle with yourself through out your entire life. Yahava elected a group of people, just like in the old testament who did not put a knee to baal. This group of people was the bride of Christ, and Yeshua returned for them. However, if you believe that this is not true, you will continue to struggle in this world looking at everything around you and not realizing that God through Christ has reconciled the world back unto himself.

All there is left is - to have faith and to love. So simply yet difficult to grasp.

 

[Ritajanice]

You mean just like earthquakes and floods that kill thousands ...and diseases like covid and aids and thalidomide babies without limbs?

God allows everything to happen for a reason....he has the big plan in his hands...you and I are incapable of comprehending his plan...we can only think as humans.

Whereas imo, a Born Again can see his plan..yet not understand it....but we definitely see it unfolding in front of our very eyes..as we see it through the Holy Spirit...we have those spiritual eyes that we learn all about as we grow and mature in the Spirit.

All in my opinion of course.as you say.

 

[quietthinker]

No, I don’t believe this theology. how can they drive them out, when they have been predestined to become Born Again.

Plus what you say above, you have added to God word..

All are predestined to life according to Romans 5 but not all want it; they disqualify themselves by their own ideas.

 

[Ritajanice]

All are predestined to life according to Romans 5 but not all want it; they disqualify themselves by their own ideas.

As I have already explained...all that the Father draws to the Son....they will be birthed in the Spirit.....that is the Living word of God..

Those he predestined will become Born Again...it is written.

Romans 8:29​

29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstbornamong many brethren

 

[quietthinker]

God allows everything to happen for a reason....he has the big plan in his hands...you and I are incapable of comprehending his plan...we can only think as humans.

Whereas imo, a Born Again can see his plan..yet not understand it....but we definitely see it unfolding in front of our very eyes..as we see it through the Holy Spirit...we have those spiritual eyes that we learn all about as we grow and mature in the Spirit.

All in my opinion of course.as you say.

We need to speak well of God and take responsibility for our own choices and not blame God for our misfortune.
I think its Satan who maligns God in peoples minds who then believe their inspiration is from the Holy Spirit.