Listen to Me; My People:

[Keraz]

Isaiah 51:7-8 Listen to Me, My people, those who know what is right, you that lay My instructions to heart and do not fear the taunts of the enemy. For they will be like a garment eaten by moths, but My saving power will last forever.
My people, those who know what is right, you that lay My instructions to heart: Can only be every born again Christian person.
Proved by Isaiah 51:1-2…you that seek the Lord, consider Abraham to be your father and Sarah your mother; you are their increase…. Galatians 3:26-29

Isaiah 51:6…the sky will disperse like smoke….earths inhabitants will die like flies….
The Sixth Seal worldwide disaster, the Lord’s Day of vengeance and wrath; will decimate the godless peoples, but not totally destroy them.

Isaiah 51:9-11 Awake, Awake: arm of the Lord, put on Your strength as You did in days long past. It was You that dried up the sea to make a path for your people. And now, the Lords people, set free, will come back and enter Zion with shouts of triumph. They will have gladness and joy, while suffering and mourning will pass away.
This is the great second Exodus, by His faithful Christian people, who will occupy the holy Land, cleared and cleansed by the Lord. Deuteronomy 32:34-43, Jeremiah 12:14

Isaiah 51:12-16 I am He who comforts you, why then fear man who must die. Why have you forgotten your Maker, the One who makes all things? Do not be in fear of your oppressor, you will soon be set free. I am the Lord, your God, Y’hovah is My Name. I have put words in your mouth and kept you covered under the shelter of My hand. I, the Creator, say to the holy Land: you are My people.

All the faithful Christians; Isaiah 11:11-16, Isaiah 35:1-10, Romans 9:24-26, Revelation 7:9
The Lord will protect His people on that terrible Day – a worldwide judgement of fire, in the form of a massive CME sun explosion – the next prophesied event. Isaiah 30:25-30

Isaiah 51:17-23 Arouse yourselves, rise up Jerusalem! [the place; not the people]
From the Lord’s hand, you have drunk the cup of His wrath and now:- [of all your citizens] there is no one to lead you. The disasters of the sword, famine and desolation have overtaken you, now who can console you?

Therefore; listen to this, in your affliction, you that are drunk, but not with wine:
Thus says the Lord [Jesus] : your God who will plead His peoples cause – I take from your hand My cup of wrath and I shall hand it to your tormentors, those who arrogantly afflicted you.
Ref; REB, CJB, KJV. some verses abridged

This prophecy is another clear sequence of events: how The Lord’s Day of vengeance and wrath punishes His enemies, clearing and cleansing all of the holy Land, then: His faithful Christian people will travel to and settle in the new Land of Beulah. Isaiah 62:1-5, Ezekiel 34:11-31, Jeremiah 31, Romans 9:24-26
Under the Lords protection, the same as it was in ancient times. 1 Corinthians 10:1-4
Before the Return of Jesus, as many things must happen before that glorious Day.

‘Listen to Me! Prepare yourselves My people’: You have received all the punishments that I decreed. You are insensible, not with wine, but to the truth of the Word of your God. Amos 8:11-12, 2 Timothy 4:3-4
The Christian peoples, Isaiah 29:9-10, are now confused and deceived by false teachings.

Now, I will take out My wrath on our enemies, but I will protect you and set you free. You will go back to all that Land I promised to your [Spiritual] forefathers. Jeremiah 46:27, Jeremiah 31:1-14, Zechariah 9:16, Habakkuk 3:13, Joel 3:16, Isaiah 27:6

 

[Keraz]

Psalms 144:5-8 Lord: Part the heavens, come down and touch the mountains, so they pour forth smoke. Send Your lightning flashes far and wide and speed Your arrows to their mark.
Reach out Your hand from on high and rescue me from the mighty turmoil. Save me from the power of enemies, whose every word is worthless and every oath is false.

The Lord will ‘part the heavens’, that is: the sky, our atmosphere and magnetosphere as prophesied in Revelation 6:14, Isaiah 34:4. This is what a CME of unprecedented magnitude will do when it strikes the earth. The microwave effect of its shortwave spectrum will penetrate the earth’s crust, causing tectonic plate shift and volcanic eruptions. Deuteronomy 32:22, Amos 8:8, Nahum 1:5

‘every word false’, The Islamic code of Al Takkya encourages them to use lies and deception when dealing with ‘infidels’.

Psalms 145:14-21 In all His promises, the Lord keeps faith, He is unchanging in all His works. The Lord supports all who struggle in life, all those who lift their eyes to You in hope, He will feed and satisfy them in the time of His favour. The Lord is near to all who call to Him in sincerity, He fulfils the desires of those who fear Him, He hears their cry for help and saves them. The Lord watches over all who love Him, but the wicked, He will utterly destroy.

Psalms 147:1-6 How good it is to praise our God! He rebuilds Jerusalem and gathers in the scattered Israelite peoples. It is He who heals the broken spirited and binds up their wounds. He knows all His people and calls them by name. Mighty is our God and great is His power and wisdom. He gives support to the humble and brings evildoers down.

‘peoples’ in verse 4 is usually translated ‘stars’, but from the context and as we see in Daniel 12:3, the Lord’s holy people are ‘like stars’. Zechariah 9:16
The Lord promises to save His people, ‘all who call to him in sincerity’. Joel 2:32, Acts 2:21 Then to ‘gather them in a rebuilt and regenerated Land’, where He will ’feed them and satisfy all their needs’. The godless peoples; all those who go to attack Israel, ‘He will totally destroy’.

Psalms 147:12-20 Jerusalem: Sing to the Lord, Zion: praise your God, for He has made your Land and cities whole again and blessed your inhabitants. He brings peace to the Holy Land and food in plenty. He commands the rain and snow to fall in their due seasons. To Jacob, He has revealed His Word: His statutes and decrees to [faithful] Israelites. He has not done that for the other nations.
Ref: REB,NIV. Some verses abridged.

The true God fearing Christian Israelites, that is: natural descendants and those grafted in, people from every tribe, race, nation and language, will at last live in peace and prosperity in all of that area promised to the Patriarchs, will then fulfill what God had originally planned for them, that is to be His witnesses and a ‘light to the nations’, spreading the good news of the coming Kingdom of Jesus. Isaiah 49:6, Isaiah 66:19, Revelation 14:1-7

 

[Ronald Nolette]

Psalms 144:5-8 Lord: Part the heavens, come down and touch the mountains, so they pour forth smoke. Send Your lightning flashes far and wide and speed Your arrows to their mark.
Reach out Your hand from on high and rescue me from the mighty turmoil. Save me from the power of enemies, whose every word is worthless and every oath is false.

The Lord will ‘part the heavens’, that is: the sky, our atmosphere and magnetosphere as prophesied in Revelation 6:14, Isaiah 34:4. This is what a CME of unprecedented magnitude will do when it strikes the earth. The microwave effect of its shortwave spectrum will penetrate the earth’s crust, causing tectonic plate shift and volcanic eruptions. Deuteronomy 32:22, Amos 8:8, Nahum 1:5

‘every word false’, The Islamic code of Al Takkya encourages them to use lies and deception when dealing with ‘infidels’.

Psalms 145:14-21 In all His promises, the Lord keeps faith, He is unchanging in all His works. The Lord supports all who struggle in life, all those who lift their eyes to You in hope, He will feed and satisfy them in the time of His favour. The Lord is near to all who call to Him in sincerity, He fulfils the desires of those who fear Him, He hears their cry for help and saves them. The Lord watches over all who love Him, but the wicked, He will utterly destroy.

Psalms 147:1-6 How good it is to praise our God! He rebuilds Jerusalem and gathers in the scattered Israelite peoples. It is He who heals the broken spirited and binds up their wounds. He knows all His people and calls them by name. Mighty is our God and great is His power and wisdom. He gives support to the humble and brings evildoers down.

‘peoples’ in verse 4 is usually translated ‘stars’, but from the context and as we see in Daniel 12:3, the Lord’s holy people are ‘like stars’. Zechariah 9:16
The Lord promises to save His people, ‘all who call to him in sincerity’. Joel 2:32, Acts 2:21 Then to ‘gather them in a rebuilt and regenerated Land’, where He will ’feed them and satisfy all their needs’. The godless peoples; all those who go to attack Israel, ‘He will totally destroy’.

Psalms 147:12-20 Jerusalem: Sing to the Lord, Zion: praise your God, for He has made your Land and cities whole again and blessed your inhabitants. He brings peace to the Holy Land and food in plenty. He commands the rain and snow to fall in their due seasons. To Jacob, He has revealed His Word: His statutes and decrees to [faithful] Israelites. He has not done that for the other nations.
Ref: REB,NIV. Some verses abridged.

The true God fearing Christian Israelites, that is: natural descendants and those grafted in, people from every tribe, race, nation and language, will at last live in peace and prosperity in all of that area promised to the Patriarchs, will then fulfill what God had originally planned for them, that is to be His witnesses and a ‘light to the nations’, spreading the good news of the coming Kingdom of Jesus. Isaiah 49:6, Isaiah 66:19, Revelation 14:1-7

Time will tell. It is always a dangerous thing to absolutely define things in Scripture that are not absolutely defined by Scripture. Christian bookstores are a full cemetery of authors who have made the same kind of predictions as you do. They were all wrong and humbled by god as you will be also.

 

[Keraz]

Time will tell. It is always a dangerous thing to absolutely define things in Scripture that are not absolutely defined by Scripture. Christian bookstores are a full cemetery of authors who have made the same kind of predictions as you do. They were all wrong and humbled by god as you will be also.

Here is a verse that absolutely defines our destiny:
Psalm 37:29 The righteous will possess the holy land and will live there forever.

What is never Prophesied or even mentioned in the Bible, is people being rapture to heaven, in order to avoid any tribulation.

 

[Jay Ross]

Here is a verse that absolutely defines our destiny:
Psalm 37:29 The righteous will possess the holy land and will live there forever.

What is never Prophesied or even mentioned in the Bible, is people being rapture to heaven, in order to avoid any tribulation.

With your fixation on having possession of the "Holy Land" you miss this fact from Daniel 7:27: -

Then the kingdom and dominion,​

And the greatness of the kingdoms under the whole heaven,​

Shall be given to the people, the saints of the Most High.​

His kingdom is an everlasting kingdom,​

And all dominions shall serve and obey Him.’​

Sound like the Saints will get a lot more than just the "Holy Land," as you are suggesting.

There are translations that suggest the following: -

27 Depart from evil, and do good;​

And dwell forevermore.​

28 For the Lord loves justice,​

And does not forsake His saints;​

They are preserved forever,​

But the descendants of the wicked shall be cut off.​

29 The righteous shall inherit the earth,​

And dwell in it forever.​

Which is line with what Rev 21 tells us.

 

[Keraz]

Sound like the Saints will get a lot more than just the "Holy Land," as you are suggesting.

Sure, but all in the proper order.
Next to happen, is our gathering into the holy Land; soon after all that area is cleared and cleansed. Ezekiel 34:11-16, Jeremiah 30 & 31, Isaiah 35, +
Much must take place, all as described in Revelation 6:12 to Rev 19:10 THEN, those worthy will become priests and co-rulers over the world, under the benign Kingship of Jesus.

 

[Ziggy]

I think the whole world is going to get a cleansing before the Lord gets here.
And I believe that cleansing has already begun.
Some call it "climate change" because they don't believe that God is in control even if man thinks he can outsmart him with technolgies.
Let's say Jerusalem is the apple of God's eye. But it isn't the temple that is holy but those that are in it.
And I believe the whole world will be God's temple on earth.
How much of the earth will remain after the cleansing.... maybe measure it. I think the demensions are given in revelation.

Between the volcanoes and hurricanes and earthquakes... How much of the earth will still remain?

God said he is making a new heaven and a new earth and the meek shall inherit it. For they are blessed.
What if the new earth is only as big as the temple?
And if heaven is God's throne and the earth is his footstool, then how big is the city?

And in the spiritual eye, all those who believe in the Lord will make up this body of Christ.
And as he moves we move just as Israel moved through the desert. Many as one.
Living stones of the temple of God moving to and fro through the earth.

Maybe each individual will experience it according to how they hear it and understand it?
I think God will give us what we want either way as long as we are faithful.
I think everybody has an image in their heart and mind what it will be, but until we experience it for ourselves then I believe our own experience will be what we hope it will be.
There won't be a right way or a wrong way because that would cause division. "See i was right and you was wrong".
I think God is going to meet us right where we are in our own faith and belief.
Each one judged individually according to how he hears.
And not only judged but rewarded. What better reward than to recieve what you believed was in your heart?

Yeah, I don't think there is a right way or a wrong way. As long as we're all going the same way.


Hugs

 

[Jay Ross]

Sure, but all in the proper order.
Next to happen, is our gathering into the holy Land; soon after all that area is cleared and cleansed. Ezekiel 34:11-16, Jeremiah 30 & 31, Isaiah 35, +
Much must take place, all as described in Revelation 6:12 to Rev 19:10 THEN, those worthy will become priests and co-rulers over the world, under the benign Kingship of Jesus.

Keraz, you are welcome to your own private understandings, but many on this forum do not agree with your perspective on the End Times

 

[Keraz]

Keraz, you are welcome to your own private understandings, but many on this forum do not agree with your perspective on the End Times

Perhaps you can explain why this is?
I support my posts with many scriptures; which scripture do you not agree with?

Actually Daniel 12:10b tells us that only a few will understand the Prophesies. And Isaiah 29:9-12 says that those who confuse themselves with false theories will remain confused. Until AFTER the Lords Day of fiery wrath. Isaiah 32:3-4

 

[Jay Ross]

I support my posts with many scriptures; which scripture do you not agree with?

I do not disagree with the actual scripture that you reference, but I disagree with the interpretations that you are applying to those verses.

In Ezekiel 34:11-16 God states this: -

God, the True Shepherd​

11 'For thus says the Lord God: "Indeed I Myself will search for My sheep and seek them out. 12 As a shepherd seeks out his flock on the day he is among his scattered sheep, so will I seek out My sheep and deliver/rescue them from all the places where they were scattered on a cloudy and dark day. 13 And I will bring them out from the peoples and gather them from the countries and will bring them to/into their own land/fertile field; I will feed them on the mountain(s) of Israel, {a metaphor for Israel’s religious basis}, {where they are living} in the {river} valleys and in all the inhabited places of the country/earth. 14 I will feed them in good pasture, and their fold shall be on the high mountain(s) of Israel, {i.e. the religious basis of Israel}. There they shall lie down in a good fold and feed in rich pasture on the mountain(s) of Israel {i.e. the religious basis of Israel}. 15 I will feed My flock, and I will make them lie down," says the Lord God. 16 "I will seek what was lost and bring back what was driven away, bind up the broken and strengthen what was sick; but I will destroy the fat and the strong, and feed them in judgment." ​

My understanding of what God was prophesizing is very different to what you are presenting. For God's Saints to be a blessing to all of the peoples of the earth, they need to remain scattered throughout the whole earth and not gathered as you are suggesting in the Land of Canaan.

Your focus seems to be on saving your soul, but Christ warned us against doing just that.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

Here is a verse that absolutely defines our destiny:
Psalm 37:29 The righteous will possess the holy land and will live there forever.

What is never Prophesied or even mentioned in the Bible, is people being rapture to heaven, in order to avoid any tribulation.

Adding to SCripture is a serious no no. The word holy does not appear in verse 29. YOu added it to support a faqlse doctrine.

If you9 want an intense study of Israel in the millennial kingdom (also known as Beulah) I suggest you look ay my study in the eschatology thread entitled" What will the 1000 year kingdom on earth Jesus reigns over look like."

 

[Keraz]

Your focus seems to be on saving your soul, but Christ warned us against doing just that.

My aim and object here, is to promote the Prophetic Word. And to show up false theories.
My soul is saved by my belief in Jesus. John 3:16

Adding to SCripture is a serious no no. The word holy does not appear in verse 29. YOu added it to support a faqlse doctrine.

If you9 want an intense study of Israel in the millennial kingdom (also known as Beulah) I suggest you look ay my study in the eschatology thread entitled" What will the 1000 year kingdom on earth Jesus reigns over look like."

I have placed the word 'holy' in parenthesis.
However, it will be the holy Land; all that area given to Abraham and his descendants, Genesis 15:18-19, which the faithful people will occupy before Jesus Returns. In the Millennium, it will be all the earth.

 

[Jay Ross]

My aim and object here, is to promote the Prophetic Word. And to show up false theories.
My soul is saved by my belief in Jesus. John 3:16

I would question your claim that you are promoting God's prophetic words and would suggest that you, yourself, are in fact promoting false theories.

I am glad that you have the understanding that your soul is saved by your belief in Jesus as per John 3:16.