Limited atonement !

[Runningman]

The answer is NO He would never ever say that to anyone He Loved and gave Himself for, that He never knew them. They could not have been a Sheep of His because this He says about them Jn 10:14

I am the good shepherd, and know my sheep, and am known of mine.

He could have never been their Shepherd and disown them like that.

According to the good shepherd, sheep can can astray and possibly not be found again. The Father doesn't want this, but Jesus teaches it's possible to still perish by committing apostasy. That's what happened to Judas.

Matthew 18
12What do you think? If a man has a hundred sheep and one of them goes astray, will he not leave the ninety-nine on the hills and go out to search for the one that is lost? 13And if he finds it, truly I tell you, he rejoices more over that one sheep than over the ninety-nine that did not go astray. 14In the same way, your Father in heaven is not willing that any of these little ones should perish.

 

[Runningman]

You haven't disproved limited atonement.

Limited atonement is in tatters at this point. I think we are just trying to figure out where to sweep the pieces to.

 

[BreadOfLife]

You haven't disproved limited atonement.

YOU haven't proven it . . .

 

[Behold]

What you call Calvinism is the Gospel, its been around since the foundation of the world

"Calvinism" is originally desiged as a theology, by John Calvin.

= DUH

John Calvinism has not "been around since the foundation of the world".

So Remember....

God is not a Calvinist
Jesus is not a Calvinist
Paul is not a Calvinist
The NT does not teach Calvinism..

Calvinism is a Grace Denying Heresy that is taught by deceived : CALVINISTS / Hyper-Calvinists

God hates Calvinism, because it denies that Jesus came for "sinners"... "ALL have sinned" ....the "world"... ... John 3:16

Calvinism, at its most demonic evolved state of theology is "Hyper-Calvinism".

 

[brightfame52]

According to the good shepherd, sheep can can astray and possibly not be found again. The Father doesn't want this, but Jesus teaches it's possible to still perish by committing apostasy. That's what happened to Judas.

Matthew 18
12What do you think? If a man has a hundred sheep and one of them goes astray, will he not leave the ninety-nine on the hills and go out to search for the one that is lost? 13And if he finds it, truly I tell you, he rejoices more over that one sheep than over the ninety-nine that did not go astray. 14In the same way, your Father in heaven is not willing that any of these little ones should perish.

Dont matter if a Sheep of Christ strays away, He still knows His Sheep, and will go find it Lk 15:4-6

4 What man of you, having an hundred sheep, if he lose one of them, doth not leave the ninety and nine in the wilderness, and go after that which is lost, until he find it?

5 And when he hath found it, he layeth it on his shoulders, rejoicing.

6 And when he cometh home, he calleth together his friends and neighbours, saying unto them, Rejoice with me; for I have found my sheep which was lost.

He knew and knows His Sheep even in a lost condition, and will successfully find it. Again, He would not ever Tell one of His Sheep Matt 7:23

23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

 

[brightfame52]

Limited atonement is in tatters at this point. I think we are just trying to figure out where to sweep the pieces to.

You havent proved it

 

[brightfame52]

YOU haven't proven it . . .

You havent proved that !

 

[brightfame52]

"Calvinism" is originally desiged as a theology, by John Calvin.

= DUH

John Calvinism has not "been around since the foundation of the world".

So Remember....

God is not a Calvinist
Jesus is not a Calvinist
Paul is not a Calvinist
The NT does not teach Calvinism..

Calvinism is a Grace Denying Heresy that is taught by deceived : CALVINISTS / Hyper-Calvinists

God hates Calvinism, because it denies that Jesus came for "sinners"... "ALL have sinned" ....the "world"... ... John 3:16

Calvinism, at its most demonic evolved state of theology is "Hyper-Calvinism".

Calvinism, Tulip is the Gospel, Jesus taught all five points !

 

[Dash RipRock]

You havent proved it

Some are so blinded by the false doctrine of calvinism and sadly they won't understand they have been deceived until the die someday and are taken down into the pits of hell in to eternal torment and then finally they will realize they have been deceived at which point it'll be too late for them as they will be tormented in hell for all eternity

Too bad for them.

 

[Rockerduck]

Some are so blinded by the false doctrine of calvinism and sadly they won't understand they have been deceived until the die someday and are taken down into the pits of hell in to eternal torment and then finally they will realize they have been deceived at which point it'll be too late for them as they will be tormented in hell for all eternity

Too bad for them.

Who are you to Judge?

 

[brightfame52]

Some are so blinded by the false doctrine of calvinism and sadly they won't understand they have been deceived until the die someday and are taken down into the pits of hell in to eternal torment and then finally they will realize they have been deceived at which point it'll be too late for them as they will be tormented in hell for all eternity

Too bad for them.

Prove it