LGBTQ

[TinMan]

You are equivocating. There is no parallel between race and sexual orientation.

Sure there is. They are both minorities, both have a significant number of people who hate them. both have a long history of being subjected to prejudice and discrimination and for both the justification for that hate has been religious.

Your reaction indicates you know full well saying what you are saying here about LGBT individuals would be correctly seen as hate if you were to direct to any other minority.

 

[TinMan]

I am telling the truth; you just experience it as hate.

if you were telling the truth you could provide actual evidence for your claims.

 

[TinMan]

Did you tell him that God said he is heading for Hell?

I don't speak for God and neither do you.

 

[Wrangler]

Assertion in debate: Assertion

Are we debating? We are not debating. You are denying. See what I did there? Assertion.

 

[TinMan]

Are we debating?

We are posting in the "Christian Debate Forum"

 

[Wrangler]

We are posting in the "Christian Debate Forum"

True but we are not debating, you are dening.

The gist of the exchanges go like this.

1. You assert Cultural Marxist venom, like the LBGTQ's are victims of an oppresive majority. This excuses their homosexual sin while the allegation of oppression by the majority is unquestioned.
2. You deny anthing to to contrary.
3. Repeat.

Not a debate at all, really.

 

[TinMan]

True but we are not debating, you are dening.

The gist of the exchanges go like this.

1. You assert Cultural Marxist venom, like the LBGTQ's are victims of an oppresive majority. This excuses their homosexual sin while the allegation of oppression by the majority is unquestioned.
2. You deny anthing to to contrary.
3. Repeat.

Not a debate at all, really.

you are the one denying what assertion is not me.

 

[Wrangler]

you are the one denying what assertion is not me.

And you are the one denying homosexuality is a sin.

 

[Jack]

I don't speak for God and neither do you.

I didn't speak for God. I quoted Him.

1 Corinthians 6
9 Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, 10 nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God.

 

[TinMan]

And you are the one denying homosexuality is a sin.

where did I say that?

 

[TinMan]

I didn't speak for God. I quoted Him.

1 Corinthians 6
9 Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, 10 nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God.

you are actually quoting Paul here.

 

[TheOneHeLoves]

Gotta love the homos too.

I might not agree with the whole political side but…

People will look for anything to hate someone.

I don’t worship a Calvinistic God; that is down right mean as hell.

But a God who is love.

And God loved all the people in the world to send his Son, that whoever believes in him shall not die but have everlasting life.

You define love based on your own knowledge and worldly influence. God is love and He defines love. Love is not tolerant of sin, love is not accepting any believe or making someone happy or only good feelings toward something. God is perfect and He will not tolerate sin forever, He is patient and slow to anger but His wrath is justified. Jesus tells the Pharisees that their father is Satan. Not all are born of God's will. Man is made in the image of God but not all belong to God. MANY will reject Him and His wrath will be upon them. Only those that accept Him will be covered by His blood. Just like in Egypt, only those with with the blood on the door posts were save from the angel of death.

Also accepting liberal/leftist/lgbt ideology is not loving to God, nor the delusional people that believe and push it. We are instructed to hate what God hates and He hates sin, He hates things that do not glorify Him. But you hear we must stand against this ideology you and others will add to that statement and claim we are saying that we must be violent, harm, and be little those people. Sure there are some that will feel that way but the majority of us true believers and followers of Christ will say we can call it a sin, hate the sin, and do what we can so that it is not pushed in very aspect of society and especially protect our children from it. What people do in their own private homes and not pushing on everyone is not my concern as they will have to answer to God not me. But I will not for any reason support homosexuality or transgenderism!

Read Mattew 13:24-43- The enemy sowed weeds among the wheat - Satan brought life among God's creation. what God created Satan counterfeits. We will live together but judgement will come for the evil ones.

There is a division and you can't be both. You are either of light or darkness.

 

[CadyandZoe]

Sure there is. They are both minorities, both have a significant number of people who hate them. both have a long history of being subjected to prejudice and discrimination and for both the justification for that hate has been religious.

Your reaction indicates you know full well saying what you are saying here about LGBT individuals would be correctly seen as hate if you were to direct to any other minority.

None of those issues speak to the point I made. Race is an innate human trait. Orientation is not.

 

[CadyandZoe]

if you were telling the truth you could provide actual evidence for your claims.

That doesn't necessarily follow. I argued from the created order, which design is evident to all. I can't help you if you deny reality.

 

[TheOneHeLoves]

I don't speak for God and neither do you.

How can you say whether or not God is speaking through someone? God speaks through who He wants to. he speaks through nature, angels, animals, and people both His children and the devil's children. Believers are called to be His hands and feet and are given His Holy Spirit to guide us. That includes given us the words to say and the strength to say it. God has definitely given me words in certain situations.

If you don't believe that then what god are you following?

 

[Ezra]

That's good to hear.

Well, I'm not 'white' so I know most 'whites' are not racist but the media / Liberals loves promoting racism that doesn't exist. Divide and conquer!

exactly

 

[TinMan]

You define love based on your own knowledge and worldly influence. God is love and He defines love. Love is not tolerant of sin, love is not accepting any believe or making someone happy or only good feelings toward something. God is perfect and He will not tolerate sin forever, He is patient and slow to anger but His wrath is justified. Jesus tells the Pharisees that their father is Satan. Not all are born of God's will. Man is made in the image of God but not all belong to God. MANY will reject Him and His wrath will be upon them. Only those that accept Him will be covered by His blood. Just like in Egypt, only those with with the blood on the door posts were save from the angel of death.

Also accepting liberal/leftist/lgbt ideology is not loving to God, nor the delusional people that believe and push it. We are instructed to hate what God hates and He hates sin, He hates things that do not glorify Him. But you hear we must stand against this ideology you and others will add to that statement and claim we are saying that we must be violent, harm, and be little those people. Sure there are some that will feel that way but the majority of us true believers and followers of Christ will say we can call it a sin, hate the sin, and do what we can so that it is not pushed in very aspect of society and especially protect our children from it. What people do in their own private homes and not pushing on everyone is not my concern as they will have to answer to God not me. But I will not for any reason support homosexuality or transgenderism!

Read Mattew 13:24-43- The enemy sowed weeds among the wheat - Satan brought life among God's creation. what God created Satan counterfeits. We will live together but judgement will come for the evil ones.

There is a division and you can't be both. You are either of light or darkness.

'You can safely assume you've created God in your own image when it turns out that God hates all the same people you do.' Anne Lamott

 

[TinMan]

None of those issues speak to the point I made. Race is an innate human trait. Orientation is not.

Prove it

 

[TinMan]

That doesn't necessarily follow. I argued from the created order, which design is evident to all. I can't help you if you deny reality.

Apparently it isn't evident to all but even if it were that wouldn't be evidence of your claims.

 

[Wrangler]

where did I say that?

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Then don't go around promoting hate.