Knowing the Day and the Hour of the Lord's Coming

[Dan Clarkston]

for it was sealed and has been under restraint until now.

Let me guess... YOU are the only one that has been given special privileges to break the seal and get in to see right?

 

[ScottA]

How do you fit your head through 20' foot wide doors? Why should we accept your mystic musingsa over legions of others who disagree with you and boast teh same authority? what makes you right and all them wrong and why should we accept your mystic reinterprewtations of Scripture instead of what is written?

My "head" is more than "20'" in width--but is Jesus.

But no, no authority for what I am now declaring was given until now. For, as it is written, these things were sealed/restrained.

As for "instead of what is written"-- The spirit of God being poured out beginning at Pentecost, was upon "all flesh" both good and evil; and what you have assumed is all plain language was still under confusion by God since Babel, until the time of the end. Such are the legions you spoke of.

 

[ScottA]

So then we can scratch you off the list of godly teachers. For as Paul said He became all things to all people in order to save some. YOu do the opposite of that renowned Apostle!

So do you believe in transubstantiation?

What Paul taught and preached was for from then until now. As I said, why have you not anticipated it as it is actually written of the times?

As for "transubstantiation"--I would have to look it up to even know what it is.

 

[ScottA]

Those claiming Jesus doesn't know what He's talking about.... are to be ignore and are not qualified to speak to others about the Gospel until they repent of the darkness that is in their heart for claiming.... Jesus is ignorant and doesn't know what He's talking about.

Folks doing this don't know what spirit they are of... I certainly hope they get right with the Lord and really soon!

Jesus knows very well--but many are those who do not.

And, yes, I would ignore you, but you are among those who are in need.

 

[ScottA]

So you are a spirit then. Okay

One thing at a time (baby steps) then.

You say that obviously begrudgingly. But is it not written that the children of God are born of flesh and also of the spirit of God? So, to whom are you referring to, my old man of flesh and blood--who, no--is not spirit, or to my new man which was made alive in spite of my flesh being "alive and remaining" in the world--which Paul spoke of?

Or have you just been referring to the things of this world, and those who are perishing?

 

[ScottA]

Can you show us that from Scripture or is that one of you rmystical revelations you got as a spirit?

Have you not read Ecclesiastes, where the word of God by Solomon, says:

Ecclesiastes 12:7​

Then the dust will return to the earth as it was, And the spirit will return to God who gave it.​

 

[ScottA]

So you are a spirit then. Okay

Can you show us that from Scripture or is that one of you rmystical revelations you got as a spirit?

So when Jesus took on flewsh He was no longer god to you because he was flesh. Can you show me this from Scripture?

But please answer the questionas you threw out the information.

Jesus body is now all of us so do you believe in transubstantiation?

Why do you come at me as if I knew nothing of God, when you show yourself as not even knowing what is written--are you not able to answer the question yourself?

John 3:6​

That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.​

 

[ScottA]

Let me guess... YOU are the only one that has been given special privileges to break the seal and get in to see right? View attachment 56971

Your biblical ignorance is showing.

Do you not know that in the fulness of time, God gives revelation in the same way as is now written and established?

As such, why should you fair any different than those who killed the prophets because of their own ignorance and disbelief?

You have much to answer for.

 

[Jay Ross]

As such, why should you fair any different than those who killed the prophets because of their own ignorance and disbelief?

You have much to answer for.

You know that Jeremiah encountered so called prophets who disagreed with him, and they imprisoned him in a cistern because they thought that God would not let His temple be destroyed but they had forgotten what He had told Solomon

2 Chron 7:19-22: - 19 "But if you turn away and forsake My statutes and My commandments which I have set before you, and go and serve other gods, and worship them, 20 then I will uproot them from My land which I have given them; and this house which I have sanctified for My name I will cast out of My sight, and will make it a proverb and a byword among all peoples.​

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21 "And as for this house, which is exalted, everyone who passes by it will be astonished and say, 'Why has the Lord done thus to this land and this house?' 22 Then they will answer, 'Because they forsook the Lord God of their fathers, who brought them out of the land of Egypt, and embraced other gods, and worshiped them and served them; therefore, He has brought all this calamity on them.'"​

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There are few people today who understand what has been recorded in the scriptures.

God foretold Abraham that some of his descendants would return to the land of Canaan around 4,000 years after the birth of Isaac, in their own strength in 1948.

Jesus also foretold his disciples that around 96 years after the fig three budded that God would incline His ear towards them and hear their pleas and that He would then begin the process of Gathering all of Israel to Himself, where they will be living at that time still scattered all around the earth.

The question that needs to be answered today is, where are we in God's timeline with the scattering of the seeds. Are we God's seeds taking root in His fertile soil or are we more concerned about the thistles and weed choking us and giving us no peace because of the concerns of the world at this present time.

In the next 20 or so years from now, the trampling of God's earthly hosts and His sanctuary will continue until all of the participants in this trampling are judged and imprisoned to await the time of their punishment.

When will God's earth hosts experience a time of peace and how long will it last?

Are there prophets around who can actually answer this question satisfactorily in line with God's End Time prophecies.

 

[ScottA]

You know that Jeremiah encountered so called prophets who disagreed with him, and they imprisoned him in a cistern because they thought that God would not let His temple be destroyed but they had forgotten what He had told Solomon

2 Chron 7:19-22: - 19 "But if you turn away and forsake My statutes and My commandments which I have set before you, and go and serve other gods, and worship them, 20 then I will uproot them from My land which I have given them; and this house which I have sanctified for My name I will cast out of My sight, and will make it a proverb and a byword among all peoples.​

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21 "And as for this house, which is exalted, everyone who passes by it will be astonished and say, 'Why has the Lord done thus to this land and this house?' 22 Then they will answer, 'Because they forsook the Lord God of their fathers, who brought them out of the land of Egypt, and embraced other gods, and worshiped them and served them; therefore, He has brought all this calamity on them.'"​

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There are few people today who understand what has been recorded in the scriptures.

God foretold Abraham that some of his descendants would return to the land of Canaan around 4,000 years after the birth of Isaac, in their own strength in 1948.

Jesus also foretold his disciples that around 96 years after the fig three budded that God would incline His ear towards them and hear their pleas and that He would then begin the process of Gathering all of Israel to Himself, where they will be living at that time still scattered all around the earth.

The question that needs to be answered today is, where are we in God's timeline with the scattering of the seeds. Are we God's seeds taking root in His fertile soil or are we more concerned about the thistles and weed choking us and giving us no peace because of the concerns of the world at this present time.

In the next 20 or so years from now, the trampling of God's earthly hosts and His sanctuary will continue until all of the participants in this trampling are judged and imprisoned to await the time of their punishment.

When will God's earth hosts experience a time of peace and how long will it last?

Are there prophets around who can actually answer this question satisfactorily in line with God's End Time prophecies.

Good!

I am curious where you get the "4,000 years", as it was more like 400. Or are you referring to the times between the first Adam and the Last? Because, technically, they are all included in the promise handed down to Abraham.

As for "the fig tree budding", the budding of the Branch began in His time.

 

[Dan Clarkston]

And, yes, I would ignore you, but you are among those who are in need.

I certainly don't need anyone who is following satan trying to tell me Jesus is ignorant and doesn't know what He's talking about... which is a lie. But that's what religious liars and conmen do... they lie, con, and gaslight the gullible!

Matthew 24:36 (also in Mark 13:32)
But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.

Jesus specifically said only the Father knows the day and hour... and the devil always claims God's Word is not true and the devil's merry band of false teachers follow along also claiming God's Word is not true

It's very obvious that the devil has some agents working here that claim to be Christians which of course God's Word speak of in the end times so the devil peoples are wasting their time trying to get me to believe Jesus is a liar!

 

[Dan Clarkston]

You have much to answer for.

That's hilarious coming from someone who claims Jesus lied in Matthew 24:36

 

[Jay Ross]

Good!

I am curious where you get the "4,000 years", as it was more like 400. Or are you referring to the times between the first Adam and the Last? Because, technically, they are all included in the promise handed down to Abraham.

As for "the fig tree budding", the budding of the Branch began in His time.

So, you too have read the one verse prophecy and come to the same conclusions as the flawed commentaries have on their author's understanding of the duration of the, "But in the fourth generation/age, your descendants will return here to this place, the Land of Canaan."

I too was surprised that the time duration of this prophecy as to when they will return to the land of Canaan, in their own strength, turned out to be exactly 4,000 years.

But if you believe that the duration of the fourth generation has a duration of just 400 years, then you have vast time gaps in your understanding of God's unfolding End Time prophecies.

Shalom

 

[Hobie]

1. It is a reality! He physically rose from the dead, was seen by over 500 and ascended into heaven in the body the Apostles saw right before He ascended. that is fact, not assumption.

2. It is a metaphor. Jesus being with us is through the agency of the Holy Spirit. currently Jesus is in heaven making intercession for the saints as it is written.

3. Well you added "little moment in time". God is smarter than us and knows how to speak. If He says every eye will see HIm- every eye will see Him! The bible doesn't speak of how long that takes- you added that to the Scripture.

4. Correct Jesus returned to heaven and will come back physically when Israel acknowledges their one sin and declares blessed is He who comes in the name of the Lord.

Well, He will come back at a time and hour that we do not know and the whole world, every eye, that means every one alive will see Him as He comes with His angels to take the redeemed to heaven..

 

[VictoryinJesus]

Do you not know that what Jesus said was spirit, and in parable under restraint until He who restrains is taken out of the way?

I have questions. (warning this may be long since I need to include scripture to ask my questions) You have mentioned the word of God being restrained until now. Yet, it was them who were shut up from the truth, until Him who is the True Heir was to come. I get (I think) what you are saying as in “shut up” or “sealed”. As they were “shut up” and “sealed” until the rightful owner comes. Galatians 3:22-23 But the scripture has concluded all under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given to them that believe. [23] But before faith came, we were kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed.

Yet It reminds of 2 Timothy 2:8-9 Remember that Jesus Christ of the seed of David was raised from the dead according to my gospel: [9] Wherein I suffer trouble, as an evil doer, even unto bonds; but the word of God is not bound.

Until he who is taken out of the way…it’s given unto them in parables that seeing they might not see. And hearing that they might not hear and be transformed, healed, and reconciled unto God. That is so stinking confusing because it is the god of this world which blinded the minds of this world. 2 Corinthians 4:4-5 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them. [5] For we preach not ourselves, but Christ Jesus the Lord; and ourselves your servants for Jesus' sake.
Hebrews 12:27 And this word, Yet once more, signifies the removing of those things that are shaken, as of things that are made, that those things which cannot be shaken(bound?) may remain.

To me it is clear “Until he who is taken out of the way…” regardless of what I’ve been taught for years regarding 2 Thessalonians 2:7-8 For the mystery of iniquity does already work: only he who now lets will let, until he be taken out of the way. [8] And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming —the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

To me it is clear “Until he who is taken out of the way…” regardless of what I’ve been told by men…Colossians 2:11-14 and in Him you were also circumcised with a circumcision performed without hands, in the removal(taking away) of the body of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ, [12] having been buried with Him in baptism, in which you were also raised with Him through faith in the working of God, who raised Him from the dead. [13] And when you were dead in your wrongdoings and the uncircumcision of your flesh, He made you alive together with Him, having forgiven us all our wrongdoings, [14] having canceled the certificate of debt consisting of decrees against us, which was hostile to us; and He has taken it out of the way, having nailed it to the cross.
To me it is clear “Until he who is taken out of the way…” let the Words of God speak

2 Corinthians 3:14
But their minds were hardened; for until this very day at the reading of the old covenant the same veil remains unlifted, because it is removed in Christ.

To me it is clear “Until he who is taken out of the way…” …the same veil remains unlifted(not yet taken out of the way, because it is removed (taken out of the way) in Christ.… and then…“with the brightness of his coming —the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.
—-with a circumcision performed without hands, in the removal(taking away) of the body of the flesh by (because it is removed or taken out of the way by) the circumcision of Christ,

That helps I think with what Paul said 2 Timothy 2:8-9 Remember that Jesus Christ of the seed of David was raised from the dead according to my gospel: [9] Wherein I suffer trouble, as an evil doer, even unto bonds; but the word of God is not bound.

Why then have you not anticipated the declaration of all truth (contrary to what has been taught and believed) after He who restrains has been taken out of the way?

the same veil remains unlifted, because it is removed in Christ.
I don’t see how anyone can argue “it is removed(taken out of the way) in Christ”

Which may not be desired or welcomed as “what is taken out of the way” so that His glorious Light may shine unto them. Because this is not what men taught which is the church body sadly is waiting to be raptured out —as if they “His redeemed” are the topic of “until he is taken out of way”. I grew up hearing and being taught: when the body of Christ is removed or taken out of the way…then all hell breaks loose. It appears the opposite in when he (the body of flesh is removed) “in Christ” THEN the glorious light of the gospel of Christ shines.

 

[VictoryinJesus]

I am not saying anything that is not written--but many are the victims the lie and strong delusion--just as it is written.

As for what you say I do--it is not true. I have only repeated and explained what is written, for it was to be sealed/restrained until now, and now is revealed without prior claims or opinions from those legions you speak of. That happening prior is not biblically possible, nor is it true.

Anyway, there has been "no plain teaching of Scripture", for it was sealed and has been under restraint until now.

Anyway, there has been "no plain teaching of Scripture", for it was sealed and has been under restraint until now.

For the veil remains…even unto this day, until it be taken out of the way by Christ. To me it’s not the word of God which is bound but eyes, hand, and feet which are bound. One example is when Lazarus was called forth from the tomb and they cried “surely he stinks by now” ..it was Lazarus who was bound by grave clothes
John 11:43-44 And when he had spoken, he cried with a loud voice, Lazarus, come forth. [44] And he that was dead came forth, bound hand and foot with graveclothes: and his face was bound about with a napkin. Jesus said unto them, Loose him, and let him go.

 

[VictoryinJesus]

Have you not read Ecclesiastes, where the word of God by Solomon, says:

Ecclesiastes 12:7Then the dust will return to the earth as it was, And the spirit will return to God who gave it.

Last one and then I’m finished.

Ecclesiastes 12:7Then the dust will return to the earth as it was, And the spirit will return to God who gave it.

2 Corinthians 4:16-17 For which cause we faint not; but though our outward man perish(dust will return to the earth as it was), yet the inward man (the spirit will return to God who gave it) is renewed day by day. [17] For our light affliction(dust returning to dust), which is but for a moment, works for us( Not that we are sufficient of ourselves to think any thing as of ourselves; but our sufficiency is of God;2 Corinthians 3:5)a far more exceeding and eternal weight of glory(being renew day by day);


You may ask where was a question in any of that. Here is the question. I still doubt Scott. I doubt what I think I hear and doubt so much wavering back and forth all the time. Most this wavering comes from all of the many voices I hear each claiming to be right, even in this thread. yet every person is saying something different. I’m including myself which is why I doubt what I think I hear or read. Every person has an opinion on what is being said. Every one of us takes the stance with a cackle towards each other as if—-shaking the head, thinking “you poor delusional ignorant person”. There is no way we are all right yet we all are convinced we are THE ONE who is right. I love your post Scott. But if I’m being honest you scare the daylights out of me. I wonder why you speak as if speaking in a constant Bible verse minus all the “thee”’s and “thou”s. To me you have been given great insight. But I can’t speak like you speak with a commanding authority as if your speech is a bible verse in itself? as if you are speaking in the place of God. All this is what makes me doubt asking “am I just another who likes to hear myself speak?” As if I have all the answers. To be honest I do think I know who the thief is. How he comes. And when. I think I’ve met him. (Jeremiah 15:2-3 And it shall come to pass, if they say unto thee, Where shall we go forth? then you will tell them, this says the LORD; Such as are for death, to death; and such as are for the sword, to the sword; and such as are for the famine, to the famine; and such as are for the captivity, to the captivity. [3] And I will appoint over them four kinds, saith the LORD: the sword to slay, and the dogs to tear, and the fowls of the heaven, and the beasts of the earth, to devour and destroy.)
I do think I know what is this magnificent riches God has given and how the end of all this will go. But my biggest question to God is if He wants and desires us to trust His Voice and no other voice ….why then are there so many different voices to where you end up wondering “am I nuts?”

Not to be ugly but to help you understand why I take a step back from your speech. Personally I think you have it backwards. Earlier you asked someone if you should speak the way you speak, or speak more like the world? That can also be said as “should I speak this way, with patience, love, mercy, long suffering, forgiveness, grace, righteousness and truth? Or should I—-would you rather I speak to you as the world speaks in backbiting, slander, gossips, hatred, murder and divisions?”

Does speaking as God or as Christ have to be with a commanding confident voice ….or can speaking as Christ or God be; Let the Fruit of the Spirit of God speak. ” When I think of Paul it wasn’t Paul’s voice but when the Corinthians accused Paul of Christ not speaking in Paul, their wanting proof Christ spoke in Him …it was these Words I hear Christ speak in Paul —not mere tone of voice but action (Alive)
2 Corinthians 13:8-10 For we can do nothing against the truth, but for the truth. [9] For we are glad, when we are weak, and you are strong: and this also we wish, even your perfection. [10] Therefore I write these things being absent, lest being present I should use sharpness, according to the power which the Lord hath given me to edification, and not to destruction.

 

[ScottA]

I certainly don't need anyone who is following satan trying to tell me Jesus is ignorant and doesn't know what He's talking about... which is a lie. But that's what religious liars and conmen do... they lie, con, and gaslight the gullible!

No, no one needs that.

But, then again, that does not take away the fact that we don't know what we don't know, which even the history of God's people (of whom you are one) attest to it. And it doesn't help one to be a false witness and an accuser.

 

[ScottA]

That's hilarious coming from someone who claims Jesus lied in Matthew 24:36
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THAT IS A LIE.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

I am not saying anything that is not written--but many are the victims the lie and strong delusion--just as it is written.

As for what you say I do--it is not true. I have only repeated and explained what is written, for it was to be sealed/restrained until now, and now is revealed without prior claims or opinions from those legions you speak of. That happening prior is not biblically possible, nor is it true.

Anyway, there has been "no plain teaching of Scripture", for it was sealed and has been under restraint until now.

and you are one of the adept who have been given this sealed understanding? No- even th e past few decades you have to get in line with so many others who declare the same malarkey as you . Once again why should we believe you over the plain words of Scripture?

I know this is all seems foreign...and it is--that's the point.

But, whereas "God is spirit" and mankind is not, in order for Jesus, or us, to become One with the Father--we need to lose our earthly matter.

Example: Jesus didn't have matter before when He was with the Father whom "is spirit." Then Jesus was born of matter, lived and died, and then returned to be One again with the Father--that being "spirit." And, as it is written, His flesh returned to the dust/earth.

"God is spirit" and Jesus is God. In other words, I have explained just how the void between heaven and earth is/was crossed--but you have not even accounted for it, except to say that what was seen of the flesh, is true of the spirit--which is totally not biblical, but anti-Christ--because He was with God in spirit and is again, as it is written.

So AS YOU SAY WE HAVE TO LOSE OUR EARTHLY MATTER ( I AM ASSUMING YOU MEAN OUR BODIES) , in order to understand, are you now declaring you are no longer in possession of your earthly matter and you are now a spirit? If you aren't why should we trust your mystic revelations over the plain teaching of Scripture which you contradict?

I am not saying anything that is not written--but many are the victims the lie and strong delusion--just as it is written.

As for what you say I do--it is not true. I have only repeated and explained what is written, for it was to be sealed/restrained until now, and now is revealed without prior claims or opinions from those legions you speak of. That happening prior is not biblically possible, nor is it true.

Anyway, there has been "no plain teaching of Scripture", for it was sealed and has been under restraint until now.

No you haven't. You have reinterpreted Scripture with the justification yo, Mormons, the Watchtower, M.E. White et. al.u have been given mysteries that were sealed and now unsealed like so many others. You are in company with David Koresh, Jim Jones

Anyway, there has been "no plain teaching of Scripture", for it was sealed and has been under restraint until now.

So according to you all Scriptures since Daniel (as you qoute him) have been sealed. So when Paul wrote all his epistles he had no clue as to what He was really bringing forth, for it was sealed to HIm? WOW! when you fall from that perch you have placed yourself on, ther are many who will be here to pick you up and help you recover from teh delusion YOU are under.

BTW: I would still like an answer to the question I have asked you three times.

Do you believe in transubstantiation or that Jesus has placed atomic particles of Him in all believers seeing as you said His physical body never made it to heaven.