Justified by Works

[Grailhunter]

When our conscience convicts us we repent, right?

No chapter 14 is not about repentance.

And you and I need to talk about what repentance is.

Read the whole chapter and tell me what “the overall” meaning is.
When people read the scriptures, sometimes they cannot see the forest for the tree…..overall meaning.

 

[Johann]

Which part of the verse did you disagree with?
"The one who doubts is condemned if he eats"

It's not up for debate. It's as clear as clear could be. To reject it is unbelief.

You "judge" for yourself.

A. Verbs.
1. kataginosko (G2607), "to know something against" (kata, "against," ginosko, "to know by experience"), hence, "to think ill of, to condemn," is said, in Gal_2:11, of Peter's conduct (RV, "stood condemned"), he being "self-condemned" as the result of an exercised and enlightened conscience, and "condemned" in the sight of others; so of "selfcondemnation" due to an exercise of heart, 1Jn_3:20-21. See BLAME.

2. katadikazo (G2613) signifies "to exercise right or law against anyone"; hence, "to pronounce judgment, to condemn" (kata, "down, or against," dike, "justice"), Mat_12:7, Mat_12:37; Luk_6:37; Jas_5:6.

3. krino (G2919), "to distinguish, choose, give an opinion upon, judge," sometimes denotes "to condemn," e.g., Act_13:27; Rom_2:27; Jas_5:9 (in the best mss.). Cf. No. 1, below. See CALL (No. 13), CONCLUDE, DECREE, DETERMINE, ESTEEM, JUDGE, LAW (go to), ORDAIN, SUE, THINK.

4. kataknno (G2632), a strengthened form of No. 3, signifies "to give judgment against, pass sentence upon"; hence, "to condemn," implying (a) the fact of a crime, e.g., Rom_2:1; Rom_14:23; 2Pe_2:6; some mss. have it in Jas_5:9; (b) the imputation of a crime, as in the "condemnation" of Christ by the Jews, Mat_20:18; Mar_14:64. It is used metaphorically of "condemning" by a good example, Mat_12:41-42; Luk_11:31-32; Heb_11:7.
In Rom_8:3, God's "condemnation" of sin is set forth in that Christ, His own Son, sent by Him to partake of human nature (sin apart) and to become an offering for sin, died under the judgment due to our sin.
B. Nouns.

1. krima (G2917) denotes (a) "the sentence pronounced, a verdict, a condemnation, the decision resulting from an investigation," e.g., Mar_12:40; Luk_23:40; 1Ti_3:6; Jud_1:4; (b) "the process of judgment leading to a decision," 1Pe_4:17 ("judgment"), where krisis (see No. 3, below) might be expected. In Luk_24:20, "to be condemned" translates the phrase eis krima, "unto condemnation" (i.e., unto the pronouncement of the sentence of "condemnation"). For the rendering "judgment," see, e.g., Rom_11:33; 1Co_11:34; Gal_5:10; Jas_3:1. In these (a) the process leading to a decision and (b) the pronouncement of the decision, the verdict, are to be distinguished. In 1Co_6:7 the word means a matter for judgment, a lawsuit. See JUDGMENT.

2. katakrima (G2631), cf. No. 4, above, is "the sentence pronounced, the condemnation" with a suggestion of the punishment following; it is found in Rom_5:16, Rom_5:18; Rom_8:1.

3. krisis (G2920) (a) denotes "the process of investigation, the act of distinguishing and separating" (as distinct from krima, see No. 1 above); hence "a judging, a passing of judgment upon a person or thing"; it has a variety of meanings, such as judicial authority, Joh_5:22, Joh_5:27; justice, Act_8:33; Jas_2:13; a tribunal, Mat_5:21-22; a trial, Joh_5:24; 2Pe_2:4; a judgment, 2Pe_2:11; Jud_1:9; by metonymy, the standard of judgment, just dealing, Mat_12:18, Mat_12:20; Mat_23:23; Luk_11:42; divine judgment executed, 2Th_1:5; Rev_16:7; (b) sometimes it has the meaning "condemnation," and is virtually equivalent to krima (a); see Mat_23:33; Joh_3:19; Jas_5:12, hupo krisin, "under judgment." see ACCUSATION, A (Note), DAMNATION, JUDGMENT.

Note: In Joh_9:39, "For judgment (krima) came I into this world," the meaning would appear to be, "for being judged" (as a touchstone for proving men's thoughts and characters), in contrast to Joh_5:22, "hath given all judging (krisis) to the Son"; in Luk_24:20, "delivered Him up to be condemned to death," the latter phrase is, lit., "to a verdict (krima) of death" (which they themselves could not carry out); in Mar_12:40, "these shall receive greater condemnation" (krima), the phrase signifies a heavier verdict (against themselves).

4. katakrisis (G2633), a strengthened form of No. 3, denotes "a judgment against, condemnation," with the suggestion of the process leading to it, as of "the ministration of condemnation," 2Co_3:9; in 2Co_7:3, "to condemn," more lit., "with a view to condemnation."
C. Adjectives.

1. autokatakritos (G843), "self-condemned" (auto, "self," katakrino, "to condemn"), i.e., on account of doing himself what he condemns in others, is used in Tit_3:11.

2. akatagnostos (G176), akin to A, No. 1, with negative prefix, a, "not to be condemned," is said of sound speech, in Tit_2:8.
Vine's expository.

(ho de diakrinomens)
(ean phage katakekritai)
(hamartia estin pan de he ouk ek pisteos hamartia estin)

Really don't want to get involved here-not edifying.
J.

 

[GodsGrace]

So you think you know what this verse means.....
Now read the whole chapter.....
Does the verse have more than one meaning?

You gonna make me work at almost 10pm after a long day?
OK.

Chapter 14 Romans
Verses 1-3 Welcome those that are weak in faith but not for the purpose of arguing with them.
One might feel he could eat anything, while the other feels he should eat only certain foods.
The one who eats should not dislike the one who feels he cannot...
and the one who feels he cannot should not pass judgment on the one who eats.
It is God that has welcomed him.

Verse 4 We shouldn't pass judgment on anyone. This is God's job.
God is able to make him stand.

Verses 5 - 13 One man thinks a specific day should be set aside, while another believes all days should be set aside.
Each man should be convinced in his own mind.
We eat or not, observe one day or another - all to thank and give honor to God.
Jesus died so we could be free to live as we believe to be correct.
We should worry about ourselves...not about others.
Brings to mind the log in the eye and the workers in the vineyard.


Verses 13 - 18 We shouldn't be a stumbling block to a brother. This is the reason I stopped posting to a member only earlier today. It began to sound like I was the stumbling block.
If I believe something to be unclean - then to me it is unclean. Even if it really isn't.
If something we eat makes a brother stumble, we should abstain because we would not be walking in love.
It would damage the person who believes it is sinful.

Verses 19 - 21 Let's try to get along. Let's not let a food item ruin our love for each other as Jesus wanted
We shouldn't do anything that would detract from this love that we have for one another.

Verse 22 - 23 We need to look at our own lives. Our life should be coherent with what we believe to be true.
We have our own relationship with God. We shouldn't be judging ourselves for what we believe to be true and OK with God.
We are wrong to live what we do not believe. We should be secure in what we believe.
If we act out of faith, then it is sin.

So what can we glean from chapter 14?

1. We shouldn't judge others that may be weaker than we are.
2. We shouldn't harm our brothers in Christ - in whatever way presented at the moment; here Paul speaks of food that is clean or unclean.
3. We should edify each other and let God be the judge.
4. We SHOULD BE convinced that what we believe is correct.
If we believe it's not correct, then, of course, it's sin. We can't fool God.
5. We should not be a stumbling block by our behavior.
6. Our behavior should match what we believe.
7. Again, it is wrong to live what we do not believe, or are convinced of in our conscience.

So, as usual, I'd say Paul is making many statements.
What can you add?

 

[GracePeace]

You gonna make me work at almost 10pm after a long day?
OK.

Chapter 14 Romans
Verses 1-3 Welcome those that are weak in faith but not for the purpose of arguing with them.
One might feel he could eat anything, while the other feels he should eat only certain foods.
The one who eats should not dislike the one who feels he cannot...
and the one who feels he cannot should not pass judgment on the one who eats.
It is God that has welcomed him.

Verse 4 We shouldn't pass judgment on anyone. This is God's job.
God is able to make him stand.

Verses 5 - 13 One man thinks a specific day should be set aside, while another believes all days should be set aside.
Each man should be convinced in his own mind.
We eat or not, observe one day or another - all to thank and give honor to God.
Jesus died so we could be free to live as we believe to be correct.
We should worry about ourselves...not about others.
Brings to mind the log in the eye and the workers in the vineyard.


Verses 13 - 18 We shouldn't be a stumbling block to a brother. This is the reason I stopped posting to a member only earlier today. It began to sound like I was the stumbling block.
If I believe something to be unclean - then to me it is unclean. Even if it really isn't.
If something we eat makes a brother stumble, we should abstain because we would not be walking in love.
It would damage the person who believes it is sinful.

Verses 19 - 21 Let's try to get along. Let's not let a food item ruin our love for each other as Jesus wanted
We shouldn't do anything that would detract from this love that we have for one another.

Verse 22 - 23 We need to look at our own lives. Our life should be coherent with what we believe to be true.
We have our own relationship with God. We shouldn't be judging ourselves for what we believe to be true and OK with God.
We are wrong to live what we do not believe. We should be secure in what we believe.
If we act out of faith, then it is sin.

So what can we glean from chapter 14?

1. We shouldn't judge others that may be weaker than we are.
2. We shouldn't harm our brothers in Christ - in whatever way presented at the moment; here Paul speaks of food that is clean or unclean.
3. We should edify each other and let God be the judge.
4. We SHOULD BE convinced that what we believe is correct.
If we believe it's not correct, then, of course, it's sin. We can't fool God.
5. We should not be a stumbling block by our behavior.
6. Our behavior should match what we believe.
7. Again, it is wrong to live what we do not believe, or are convinced of in our conscience.

So, as usual, I'd say Paul is making many statements.
What can you add?

The rule is v5 "each man must be fully convinced that what they are doing is correct"--because "Gods righteousness is revealed from faith to faith", as Abraham had "steps of faith" (Ro 4)--that is why the one who does what he doubts is condemned, because it isn't God's righteousness from faith. He's not abiding in Christ where there is no condemnation. Christ's Name is "God Is Our Righteousness" (Jer 23:6).

Irrespectively, the greatest part of the faith is trusting in God's greatness, and these are smaller matters--the person who sins is condemned and needs forgiveness--not the emphasis.

 

[GodsGrace]

Which part of the verse did you disagree with?
"The one who doubts is condemned if he eats"

It's not up for debate. It's as clear as clear could be. To reject it is unbelief.

See my post no. 283.

I have doubts.
I'm sure you might.
We're not condemned.

 

[Taken]

My point was telling someone they'll be condemned, not justified, if they walk in doubt, contrary to their convictions (Ro 1:17, 14:5, 23)

Agree. Walking in doubt, is not having believed or confessed in Truth.

doesn't appear to contradict "grace not works", bc "works" is what emanates from flesh (Ro 8:3), but "grace" and "faith" emanate from God.

God as well does works.
Eph 2:
[10] For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.

Two completely different sources of righteousness.

Agree.

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[GracePeace]

See my post no. 283.

I have doubts.
I'm sure you might.
We're not condemned.

This isn't "the man who has theological doubts is condemned", it's "if you are not fully convinced that what you are doing is correct, you are sinning and are therefore condemned". If you have that doubt, you are not to do it--you are to remain at peace, not disturb your peace, with what you are doing.

 

[GodsGrace]

The rule is v5 "each man must be fully convinced that what they are doing is correct"--because "Gods righteousness is revealed from faith to faith", as Abraham had "steps of faith" (Ro 4)--that is why the one who does what he doubts is condemned, because it isn't God's righteousness from faith. He's not abiding in Christ where there is no condemnation. Christ's Name is "God Is Our Righteousness" (Jer 23:6).

Irrespectively, the greatest part of the faith is trusting in God's greatness, and these are smaller matters--the person who sins is condemned and needs forgiveness--not the emphasis.

I wouldn't throw around the word CONDEMNED.
The rest is in my post 283.

 

[GracePeace]

I wouldn't throw around the word CONDEMNED.
The rest is in my post 283.

Suffice to say, we disagree, because I am just reading and believing the plain text--"the one who eats with doubts is condemned, because whatever is not of faith is sin". I don't see how you are disagreeing with the plain statement. Nevertheless, "Sometimes the cure is worse than the disease." We'll probably do better not forcing the issue.

 

[GodsGrace]

I just believe the verse--the one who does what he doubts sins and is condemned. Forgive me. Lol

The bible is not a bunch of verses.
The NT is one whole and complete idea.
It all has to be in alignment....
it all has to NOT CONFLICT.

If there's a conflict, then something is not being understood.
According to you Romans 14:23 conflicts with 1 John 1 and 2.
This is impossible and a solution must exist.

 

[GodsGrace]

This isn't "the man who has theological doubts is condemned", it's "if you are not fully convinced that what you are doing is correct, you are sinning and are therefore condemned". If you have that doubt, you are not to do it--you are to remain at peace, not disturb your peace, with what you are doing.

What you've posted above is simply not what Romans 14 is about.
I'm not planning on convincing you and I hate to go on forever (as those who know me know well)...
so we have to stop here.

 

[Johann]

No chapter 14 is not about repentance.

And you and I need to talk about what repentance is.

Read the whole chapter and tell me what “the overall” meaning is.
When people read the scriptures, sometimes they cannot see the forest for the tree…..overall meaning.

You and I don't have to talk about repentance-unequal weights and measures.

This here from the Williams Bible I use for personal teaching and a favorite of Utley.
Do Not Pass Judgment on One Another
Rom 14:1 Make it your practice to receive into full Christian fellowship people who are overscrupulous, but not to criticize their views.
Rom 14:2 One man believes that he can eat anything; another who is overscrupulous eats nothing but vegetables.
Rom 14:3 The man who eats anything must not look down on the man who does not do so, nor must the man who does not do so condemn the man who does, for God has fully accepted him.
Rom 14:4 Who are you to criticize another man's servant? It is his own master's business whether he stands or falls, and he will stand, for the Lord has power to make him stand.
Rom 14:5 One man rates one day above another, another rates them all alike. Let every man be fully convinced in his own mind.
Rom 14:6 The man who keeps a certain day keeps it for the Lord. The man who eats anything does it for the Lord too, for he gives God thanks. The man who refuses to eat anything does it for the Lord too, and gives God thanks.
Rom 14:7 For none of us can live alone by himself, and none of us can die alone by himself;
Rom 14:8 indeed, if we live, we always live in relation to the Lord, and if we die, we always die in relation to the Lord. So whether we live or die we belong to the Lord.
Rom 14:9 For Christ died and lived again for the very purpose of being Lord of both the dead and the living.
Rom 14:10 Then why should you criticize your brother? Or, why should you look down on your brother? Surely, we shall all stand before God to be judged,
Rom 14:11 for the Scripture says: "'As surely as I live,' says the Lord, 'every knee shall bend before me, and every tongue shall make acknowledgment to God.'"
Rom 14:12 So each of us must give an account of himself to God.

Do Not Cause Another to Stumble
Rom 14:13 Then let us stop criticizing one another; instead, do this, determine to stop putting stumbling blocks or hindrances in your brother's way.
Rom 14:14 I know, and through my union with the Lord Jesus I have a clear conviction, that nothing is unclean in itself; that a thing is unclean only to the person who thinks it unclean.
Rom 14:15 For if your brother is hurt because of the food you eat, you are not living by the standard of love. Stop ruining, by what you eat, the man for whom Christ died.
Rom 14:16 Then stop abusing your rights.
Rom 14:17 For the kingdom of God does not consist in what we eat and drink, but in doing right, in peace and joy through the Holy Spirit;
Rom 14:18 whoever in this way continues serving Christ is well-pleasing to God and approved by men.
Rom 14:19 So let us keep on pursuing the things that make for peace and our mutual upbuilding.
Rom 14:20 Stop undoing the work of God just for the sake of food. Everything is clean, but it is wrong for a man to eat anything when it makes another stumble.
Rom 14:21 The right thing to do is not to eat meat, or drink wine, or do anything else, that makes your brother stumble.
Rom 14:22 On your part, you must exercise your faith by the standard of yourself in the sight of God. Happy is the man who need not condemn himself for doing the thing that he approves.
Rom 14:23 But the man who has misgivings about eating, if he then eats, has already condemned himself by so doing, because he did not follow his faith, and any action that does not follow one's faith is a sin.

--and I have already exegeted this "isolated verse"

Context-


In Romans 14:23, Paul addresses the issue of whether or not a believer's actions align with their conscience and faith, specifically in the context of eating food that may be considered unclean by some. The Greek word for "condemned" in this verse is κατακέκριται (katakrinetai), which comes from the root κατακρίνω (katakrinō), meaning "to judge against" or "to condemn." This term can imply a legal or moral condemnation, but it is important to interpret it in context.

Greek word for "condemned" (κατακέκριται)
The word κατακέκριται means "judged" or "condemned." However, in this context, it refers to self-condemnation or the guilt that arises from acting against one’s own conscience. Paul is warning believers that if they have doubts about whether something is right or wrong (such as eating a certain type of food), and they proceed to do it, they are acting against their own faith. This leads to an inner sense of condemnation, not necessarily from God, but from their own awareness of violating their faith convictions.


A relevant cross-reference to Romans 14:23 is 1 Corinthians 8:7-13, where Paul speaks about the weaker brother who eats food sacrificed to idols, even though his conscience tells him it is wrong. Paul emphasizes that even if the food itself is not sinful, for the one who eats it in doubt or against his conscience, it becomes sin. This reinforces the idea that violating one’s conscience is what leads to condemnation.

This is not an salvivic issue.
J.

 

[Grailhunter]

You gonna make me work at almost 10pm after a long day?
OK.

Chapter 14 Romans
Verses 1-3 Welcome those that are weak in faith but not for the purpose of arguing with them.
One might feel he could eat anything, while the other feels he should eat only certain foods.
The one who eats should not dislike the one who feels he cannot...
and the one who feels he cannot should not pass judgment on the one who eats.
It is God that has welcomed him.

Verse 4 We shouldn't pass judgment on anyone. This is God's job.
God is able to make him stand.

Verses 5 - 13 One man thinks a specific day should be set aside, while another believes all days should be set aside.
Each man should be convinced in his own mind.
We eat or not, observe one day or another - all to thank and give honor to God.
Jesus died so we could be free to live as we believe to be correct.
We should worry about ourselves...not about others.
Brings to mind the log in the eye and the workers in the vineyard.


Verses 13 - 18 We shouldn't be a stumbling block to a brother. This is the reason I stopped posting to a member only earlier today. It began to sound like I was the stumbling block.
If I believe something to be unclean - then to me it is unclean. Even if it really isn't.
If something we eat makes a brother stumble, we should abstain because we would not be walking in love.
It would damage the person who believes it is sinful.

Verses 19 - 21 Let's try to get along. Let's not let a food item ruin our love for each other as Jesus wanted
We shouldn't do anything that would detract from this love that we have for one another.

Verse 22 - 23 We need to look at our own lives. Our life should be coherent with what we believe to be true.
We have our own relationship with God. We shouldn't be judging ourselves for what we believe to be true and OK with God.
We are wrong to live what we do not believe. We should be secure in what we believe.
If we act out of faith, then it is sin.

So what can we glean from chapter 14?

1. We shouldn't judge others that may be weaker than we are.
2. We shouldn't harm our brothers in Christ - in whatever way presented at the moment; here Paul speaks of food that is clean or unclean.
3. We should edify each other and let God be the judge.
4. We SHOULD BE convinced that what we believe is correct.
If we believe it's not correct, then, of course, it's sin. We can't fool God.
5. We should not be a stumbling block by our behavior.
6. Our behavior should match what we believe.
7. Again, it is wrong to live what we do not believe, or are convinced of in our conscience.

So, as usual, I'd say Paul is making many statements.
What can you add?

Love ya GodsGrace….

The overall meaning is not about adding.
You were listing some of the details….back to not seeing the forest for the trees.

Have you ever went to church and the sermon was exactly what you needed….Like he was talking to you. There could be several in the church that felt the same way and it meant different things to them.

People would like to think that the Bible….Christianity has one meaning….not true.

The gal that thinks that not eating meat is good, can be as good a Christian as anybody.

The guy that thinks that it is right to eat meat can be as good a Christian as anybody.

The guy that thinks that drinking wine is a blessing is as good a Christian as anybody. The guy that abstains from alcohol is as good a Christian as anybody.

Smoking offends some.
Some ladies may wear dresses and have long hair and some wear pants and have short hair.....they can all be good Christians.

Christians should fellowship with Christians and give some consideration to what may offend others…..I say some consideration. If you go to far down that road you would have to live in a closet to keep from offending anybody. Just due consideration.

But that is still not the overall meaning of the chapter. The overall meaning ….there are foundational beliefs but that does not mean that there are not different beliefs that are valid. And because they believe something different, that does not make them less a Christian or even less right. There are some beliefs that are personal, what they get from the scriptures. Like the guy sitting next to you in church that thought the sermon meant something different than what you thought.

Some scriptures can mean something different to different people. The Living Word ….God my want a person to get a specific meaning. Foundational beliefs aside, do not judge people on the small differences…..the variances draw people of different thoughts to Christianity.

 

[GodsGrace]

Love ya GodsGrace….

The overall meaning is not about adding.
You were listing some of the details….back to not seeing the forest for the trees.

Have you ever went to church and the sermon was exactly what you needed….Like he was talking to you. There could be several in the church that felt the same way and it meant different things to them.

People would like to think that the Bible….Christianity has one meaning….not true.

The gal that thinks that not eating meat is good, can be as good a Christian as anybody.

The guy that thinks that it is right to eat meat can be as good a Christian as anybody.

The guy that thinks that drinking wine is a blessing is as good a Christian as anybody. The guy that abstains from alcohol is as good a Christian as anybody.

Smoking offends some.
Some ladies may wear dresses and have long hair and some wear pants and have short hair.....they can all be good Christians.

Christians should fellowship with Christians and give some consideration to what may offend others…..I say some. If you go to far down that road you would have to live in a closet to keep from offending anybody. Just due consideration.

But that is still not the overall meaning of the chapter. The overall meaning ….there are foundational beliefs but that does not mean that there are not different beliefs that are valid. And because they believe something different, that does not make them less a Christian or even less right. There are some beliefs that are personal, what they get from the scriptures. Like the guy sitting next to you in church that thought the sermon meant something different than what you thought.

Some scriptures can mean something different to different people. The Living Word ….God my want a person to get a specific meaning. Foundational beliefs aside, do not judge people on the small differences…..the variances draw people of different thoughts to Christianity.

Yes Grailhunter.
Agreed.
I do believe I posted that we may have different beliefs but we are still Christian
IF our fundamental belief system is Christian, which I think you agree with by your above post.
If we don't believe Jesus resurrected, can we identify as Christian? This would be fundamental.

As to the living word....agreed that God will speak to us what we need to hear.
I don't believe we can teach what God speaks to us personally.
The books mean something, the chapters means something and the verses mean something.
Small differences we can agree on...some are so nuanced (like in this thread) that I can hardly understand
what some are stating.

And with that, I must say Buonanotte.

 

[Grailhunter]

Yes Grailhunter.
Agreed.
I do believe I posted that we may have different beliefs but we are still Christian
IF our fundamental belief system is Christian, which I think you agree with by your above post.
If we don't believe Jesus resurrected, can we identify as Christian? This would be fundamental.

As to the living word....agreed that God will speak to us what we need to hear.
I don't believe we can teach what God speaks to us personally.
The books mean something, the chapters means something and the verses mean something.
Small differences we can agree on...some are so nuanced (like in this thread) that I can hardly understand
what some are stating.

And with that, I must say Buonanotte.

Do they have the saying.....Sleep tight....don't let the bed bugs bite.....in your country?

 

[Johann]

Yes Grailhunter.
Agreed.
I do believe I posted that we may have different beliefs but we are still Christian
IF our fundamental belief system is Christian, which I think you agree with by your above post.
If we don't believe Jesus resurrected, can we identify as Christian? This would be fundamental.

As to the living word....agreed that God will speak to us what we need to hear.
I don't believe we can teach what God speaks to us personally.
The books mean something, the chapters means something and the verses mean something.
Small differences we can agree on...some are so nuanced (like in this thread) that I can hardly understand
what some are stating.

And with that, I must say Buonanotte.

Dormi bene, Sorella.
J.

 

[GodsGrace]

Do they have the saying.....Sleep tight....don't let the bed bugs bite.....in your country?

No!
LOL
We like to say
Dormi bene .... sleep well
Or
Sogni Doro.... golden dreams = sweet dreams

♡

 

[GodsGrace]

Dormi bene, Sorella.
J.

Anche te fratello.

♡

 

[Johann]

Anche te fratello.

Grazie, sorella! A presto!

 

[Grailhunter]

No!
LOL
We like to say
Dormi bene .... sleep well
Or
Sogni Doro.... golden dreams = sweet dreams

♡

It is kinda like the Lolaby…. Rock-a-bye baby
Kinda grimm.