John 1:1 - Jesus is the Father or he's not the one true God?

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RedFan

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What qualifies me as a theologian is that I actually read the Bible in all the various translations along with Greek...

You said earlier that "I don't need the Bible... God tells me what he wants me to say and how he wants me to say it."
 

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You said earlier that "I don't need the Bible... God tells me what he wants me to say and how he wants me to say it."
Exactly I don't need the bible... I have had those bibles for years prior to the very first time God Spoke to me when he woke me us at 5:30 am with one simple question.. "Is your faith in me or the Bible?" I can tell your faith is in the Bible because you cannot explain anything without utilizing it.. you keep using it to establish your faith and what you believe... I don't need it to establish my Faith...
 

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Done with your false accusations and dodging to come clean.

2 Tim 3:
[1] This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.
[2] For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,
[3] Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,
[4] Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;
[5] Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.

Yep, Bye.
and yet you have yet to answer the question...
 

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He said...post #561
“God asking Questions through me, identifies me as a messenger of God....”

:rolleyes:
Pretty confident Messengers of God, speak on behalf of God, as directed by God.
Sorry you having problems with the quote feature there???
 

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He said...post #561
“God asking Questions through me, identifies me as a messenger of God....”

:rolleyes:
Pretty confident Messengers of God, speak on behalf of God, as directed by God.

So are you saying that the Spirit of God is not in me or speaking through me?
 

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Exactly I don't need the bible... I have had those bibles for years prior to the very first time God Spoke to me when he woke me us at 5:30 am with one simple question.. "Is your faith in me or the Bible?" I can tell your faith is in the Bible because you cannot explain anything without utilizing it.. you keep using it to establish your faith and what you believe... I don't need it to establish my Faith...

Now that Trump is out of office, the mantle Egotist-in-Chief is up for grabs. You get my vote!
 

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Funny thing is, I haven't picked up a Bible for years because most of it is already committed to memory..:)
 
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He said...post #561
“God asking Questions through me, identifies me as a messenger of God....”

:rolleyes:
Pretty confident Messengers of God, speak on behalf of God, as directed by God.

you have not read scripture to get close to God at all...

Paul says in Hebrews 1:1,2 "1 God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;"

I will leave this right here for you ... Jesus Spoke on the behalf of God, as did Moses, David, and the rest of the prophets ...
 

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It is interesting that these people actually do not know what it means to be one with God, and it shows..

Jesus had to remind the snooty priestly classes that all the hardcore scriptural study in the world won't help closed minds..:)
"You diligently study the Scriptures because you think that by them you possess eternal life. These are the Scriptures that testify about me, yet you refuse to come to me to have life." (John 5:39-40)
 
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Jesus had to remind the snooty priestly classes that all the hardcore scriptural study in the world won't help closed minds..:)
"You diligently study the Scriptures because you think that by them you possess eternal life. These are the Scriptures that testify about me, yet you refuse to come to me to have life." (John 5:39-40)

As did Paul...
 

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You are not Jesus, you are not an OT father or prophet.
You are a false accuser.




Nope!

John 5:
[37] And the Father himself, which hath sent me, hath borne witness of me. Ye have neither heard his voice at any time, nor seen his shape.



Delusional.

You might consider cracking open a Bible and reading the Truth.
So then what do you about the Spirit inside me that is guiding me???
 

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You are not Jesus, you are not an OT father or prophet.
You are a false accuser.




Nope!

John 5:
[37] And the Father himself, which hath sent me, hath borne witness of me. Ye have neither heard his voice at any time, nor seen his shape.



Delusional.

You might consider cracking open a Bible and reading the Truth.

One more thing... how do you know I don't sit down and open it and read?

I mean I open the Bible all the time and actually read it..

My Faith isn't in it at all it is in God where it should be.

I don't need a bible to explain what I believe, but I do like a good read from time to time..

God told Jeremiah "But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people." Jeremiah 31:33...

I just love to read the words God spoke through Jesus.

The salvation gained by what God told Jesus to say...
 

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You are not Jesus, you are not an OT father or prophet.
You are a false accuser.




Nope!

John 5:
[37] And the Father himself, which hath sent me, hath borne witness of me. Ye have neither heard his voice at any time, nor seen his shape.



Delusional.

You might consider cracking open a Bible and reading the Truth.

I want you to show me where I claimed to be Jesus.

God speaks to people each and every day, people just choose to ignore Him..

Wait a minute...lol... you had said earlier that God Himself was Jesus...So that would mean that Jesus, being God's Word, Just lied when he said John 5:37 And the Father himself, which hath sent me, hath borne witness of me. Ye have neither heard his voice at any time, nor seen his shape.
I mean if Jesus is God's Word and God Himself is God's Word, then they both heard His Voice and seen His shape as he was making that statement.

Care to revisit the false accuser???
 

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You claimed you heard a voice.
You claimed it was God speaking.
Scripture proves you can not hear Gods voice.
You claimed God asks questions through you.
Scripture proves you can not hear Gods voice.
Nothing prevents Satan from speaking to you.
You make false accusations.
That is the Devil’s influence.
Review the facts, You figure out what spirit is inside you, guiding you.

Scripture does not prove you cannot hear God's voice.. and I am not making false accusations... you keep telling the lies yourself... I just point them out for you.
 

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Don’t know if you read the Bible.
Didn’t say if you read the Bible.
Don’t care if you read the Bible.



So? Satan knows the Scriptures and lies as you have with your false accusations.

you haven't shown me one thing I have falsely accused you of... I have shown you exactly where you have lied and contradicted yourself...

You just will not own up to them...
 

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I am so sorry you want to go after grammatical mistakes.. let me fix that...

do you believe Jesus is God Himself?

Ofcourse Gods Word is God Himself...same as your word is you yourself.

What is the name of God's word?


My words do not belong “inside of your quote”.
"God Himself is the WHOLE of God.
Gods Word is God, Gods Spirit is God, Gods Will is God..."

Now that your quotes are in order and your lies exposed... Explain how you can say that Jesus is God Himself and then use John 5:37 to make your claim that No one has ever heard God's Voice nor seen his image.

Everything you have said is YOUR WORDS.
It’s sickening to see what you say bracketed by your own quotes.
Accusing me of lying, Accusing Jesus of lying.
Shameful.
 
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