Jehovah is missing?

[amigo de christo]

hi amigo,
GB is governing body of Jws. It's a group of men in NY who are in complete charge of everything Jws believe and do. They Lord it over these all Jws. The are like the RC Pope or the Mormon Apostles. They push that Jesus returned invisibly in 1914 and after inspecting churches chose only them. They misuse the parable in Luke 12:35-48 7 Matt 24:45 to say that is them who gives Jws food... trouble is that food is poison that robs them of Jesus. If you only knew ho corrupt this is.
Jws will defend them no matter what they do to them, It's a stranglehold of mind control and they can not see the light of Christ at all. It's a very difficult place to get out of, but the Lord is able!!!!!

Wanna hear something very sad .
A long while back i was talking with a couple of Jw ladies .
They did spout some truths .
Now check this one out my friend .
THEY told me about the dangers of the RCC .
HOW can people just trust in a pope , and follow one just cause
they say its all divinely appointed .
RATHER ODD dude , THEY DO THE SAME WITH THE WATCHTOWER .
many folks can sometimes see the errors in another camp , BUT JUST CANNOT SEEM TO SEE IT IN THEY OWN CAMP .

 

[PS95]

That was the post i was talking about . the hatred etc .
Do be encouraged my friend .

I already spoke with Wrangler about that.

Scary stuff huh .
wanna know something even scarier , i am now watching these denominations as well
as the other denominations within christiandom now merging as one with the RCC again .
These folks have no idea this was a top down bottom up job .
This agenda infiltrated all groups . But since they are so devoted to a tower
or to a certain leader and beleive this system is DIVINELY appointed and beleive NO WAY
can it tell us a lie , THEY GONNA ALL BE DUPED big time .
Those who trust in men , in a system and beleive the system etc IS DIVINELY appointed
and thus cannot be tested but must be obeyed , ARE DOOMED to be deceived .
No man , no system is INFALLIBLE . ONLY GOD IS .
But man people so easily trust in a system . Its how one gets decieved .
This is why they remain . OH GOD IS IN OUR TOWER , OUR MEN HEAR thus sayeth
Same with the RCC , same with the mormon camp
and sadly its become about the same within most all the protestant realm too .
WE SHOULD have learned the bible for ourselves and WE SHOULD have tested ALL THINGS
and done so all the time .

they have been duped many times already, so I dont doubt that you are right. the GB has far more control over them than the pope ever had over catholics. It was just a way to explain to you as a kind of example

 

[amigo de christo]

I already spoke with Wrangler about that.

they have been duped many times already, so I dont doubt that you are right. the GB has far more control over them than the pope ever had over catholics. It was just a way to explain to you as a kind of example

well i suppose that is true . cause even most or some catholics dont agree with this pope .
but it seems EVERY JW be a slave to whatever that watch tower sayeth .

 

[amigo de christo]

I already spoke with Wrangler about that.

they have been duped many times already, so I dont doubt that you are right. the GB has far more control over them than the pope ever had over catholics. It was just a way to explain to you as a kind of example

i think more protestants support this pope than do catholics .
Folks act like systems cannot be infiltrated .
I remind us all EVERY SYSTEM within christendom has been infiltrated by the agenda .
It dont mean everyone within said places are in line with it .
BUT IT HAS come into every realm . and not just the realm of christendom
but even the false religoins
and into society via media , education , politics .
I NEVER seen an agenda grow like this one . ITS found a way to UNIFY HUMANITY .
its found a common ground to UNITE Them .
But i must warn us , IT WONT be UNDER GOD . the gospel IS DENIED by this agenda
and this agenda also honors certain sins too .
ITS a merger . its a false love , a common ground worldy love
that all in part , even the false religoins believe in part in this idea .
ITS HOW THEY Are unifying them too . But i promise its not UNDER GOD .
The true saints are gonna have to make our stand now . to contend and to defend for the one true faith
and to beware of the all inclusive strange and diverse rainbow for unity and world peace .

 

[PS95]

well i suppose that is true . cause even most or some catholics dont agree with this pope .
but it seems EVERY JW be a slave to whatever that watch tower sayeth .

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[Wrangler]

That was the post i was talking about . the hatred etc .
Do be encouraged my friend .

For the name of Jesus’ God.

Not the name of Jesus.

 

[PS95]

Wanna hear something very sad .
A long while back i was talking with a couple of Jw ladies .
They did spout some truths .
Now check this one out my friend .
THEY told me about the dangers of the RCC .
HOW can people just trust in a pope , and follow one just cause
they say its all divinely appointed .
RATHER ODD dude , THEY DO THE SAME WITH THE WATCHTOWER .
many folks can sometimes see the errors in another camp , BUT JUST CANNOT SEEM TO SEE IT IN THEY OWN CAMP .

i ask similar q's. kettle meet pot. many use uneven scales.

 

[ElieG12]

Oh YEAH
I will ALWAYS STAND AGAINST YOUR FALSE CULT.
ME, JESUS, AND HIS HOLY BOOK , QUITE HANDILY EXPOSE YOU.

OH YEAH
HERE I AM SIR.

Well, you're going to have to find a new job, because if it depends on me, you're not going to make a cent.

I'm blocking all the anti-witnesses ... They don't preach anything that Jesus said to preach, so they're not real Christians and they have nothing that interests me.

If the trafic on this website depends on the answers of JWs to your insults, there won't be any trafic here.

Goodbye.

 

[TheHC]

It's not only you.

He/she/it managed to put a link for anyone online to go to his/her own opened threads.

If I click on it, it'll take me to the threads I opened, if you click you'll go to yours, and anyone who is online will go to the own threads he/she opened.

Interesting.

 

[TheHC]

You didn't answer my question, I have to wonder why?

Much love!

I think @ElieG12 did answer your question, and did it well.

Maybe this will help?: Jesus also called himself “son of man.” Just like other men.

Best wishes.

 

[rebuilder 454]

Believers in what exactly? I don't believe any truly born again believer would reject Jesus and grieve the Holy Spirit by joining forces with the JWs. When they come to my door and I tell them I am born again they usually move on pretty quick.

So do I.
But many believers have false doctrine.( As in Watchtower puppets)
Watchtower is cunning.
They say many things we say.
They even have many beliefs that we do.
The devil does not come at a believer in a devil suit.
The way to shipwreck a believer is to deceive him.
If a believer can not be deceived. Then Jesus would have to move over and make some room to share His throne.
Only one can not be deceived, and that one is Jesus

I have to be close to Him.
Thousands of true believers are deceived.
THOUSANDS OF THEM.
Paul used the word "shipwreck".
You have to have a ship FIRST ( be a believer) before you can be shipwrecked.
The great tribulation is soon to arrive.
In Revelation it says "....where if possible even the elect will be deceived "
That is saying IMO,that some will.
Just look at the unbelievable deception we recently saw, and still is floating around, with true blood bought believers fawning and following Obama.

You underestimate the ability of Christians to walk in almost zero discernment.

Look at all the ordinances the Apostle Paul layed out.
If it were impossible for a believer to be deceived,Then Paul wasted a ton of breath on warning believers to stay away from the horrors and payday of sin and deception.

 

[rebuilder 454]

Well, you're going to have to find a new job, because if it depends on me, you're not going to make a cent.

I'm blocking all the anti-witnesses ... They don't preach anything that Jesus said to preach, so they're not real Christians and they have nothing that interests me.

If the trafic on this website depends on the answers of JWs to your insults, there won't be any trafic here.

Goodbye.

I refuse to sugar coat the devil in an antichrist destructive Watchtower mask
People can:

Cuddle them

Promote them

Or....Tolerate the enemy if that is their plan.

 

[rebuilder 454]

As I have said before,I am able and willing to fellowship with 50 or 100 Watch Tower Jehovah Witnesses.
As long as it is secular.
In fact We can go into spiritual things, As long as they listen to truth.
But Experience has shown me They're not going to do that, Because They are given In spirit soul and body To that Antichrist spirit.
And so when I address them ,I am addressing that Spirit that's in them ,and Operating within them .
I don't have anything personal against a single one of them.

But if they want to come in here ,They're going to get pushback.
And I am pushing back against that Spirit.

 

[Pearl]

So do I.
But many believers have false doctrine.( As in Watchtower puppets)
Watchtower is cunning.
They say many things we say.
They even have many beliefs that we do.
The devil does not come at a believer in a devil suit.
The way to shipwreck a believer is to deceive him.
If a believer can not be deceived. Then Jesus would have to move over and make some room to share His throne.
Only one can not be deceived, and that one is Jesus

I have to be close to Him.
Thousands of true believers are deceived.
THOUSANDS OF THEM.
Paul used the word "shipwreck".
You have to have a ship FIRST ( be a believer) before you can be shipwrecked.
The great tribulation is soon to arrive.
In Revelation it says "....where if possible even the elect will be deceived "
That is saying IMO,that some will.
Just look at the unbelievable deception we recently saw, and still is floating around, with true blood bought believers fawning and following Obama.

You underestimate the ability of Christians to walk in almost zero discernment.

Look at all the ordinances the Apostle Paul layed out.
If it were impossible for a believer to be deceived,Then Paul wasted a ton of breath on warning believers to stay away from the horrors and payday of sin and deception.

People who have given their lives to Jesus will never, ever reject him for the trash the Watchtower Org teaches. Those who turn to that evil cult were never true Christians.

 

[marks]

I think @ElieG12 did answer your question, and did it well.

I disagree on your assessment.

Maybe this will help?: Jesus also called himself “son of man.” Just like other men.

Best wishes.

Did others call themselves the son of man? I don't recall that. Were other men actually angels also? What can you tell me about that?

Much love!

 

[rebuilder 454]

People who have given their lives to Jesus will never, ever reject him for the trach the Watchtower Org teaches. Those who turn to that evil cult were never true Christians.

Peter completely sold out. Gave up his natural life to follow Jesus.
Then denied him.
It was so bad, that Jesus said " tell the disciples and peter I am alive "
"...and peter"
The entire meaning of the prodigal is that one inside the family of God ( a born again believer) can be so dulluded as to forsake all to join the world.( reject his father).

The question is not whether a born again blood bought saint can defect.

The question is, as in the prodigal, will they repent and come back.

Paul used " shipwrecked" to describe the born again believer that left the faith.

Jesus used the parable of the sower that described a believer as a growing plant, overcome by the cares of this world and defected.

Now let me share something that's kind of like the light at the end of the tunnel type of thing.
How far will God pursue the one that defects from the faith?
We know that he does pursue them, and it is marked by the the fact of how miserable the people are that were once born again, and have gone back to the world.
So we see God in pursuit of these people that have left the faith. But that doesn't mean that they have not left the faith because they in fact have. Now the question is will they, at some point, come to their senses as the prodigal did.

Conversely, we see, that some believers, have no good fruit. But are laden with wood,hay stubble.
Paul declares they are saved. But their works are burned up

So you could say that believers deceived by watchtower and defected to that cult, will somehow be saved in the end, (GODS MERCY AND KEEPING POWER) But we can never say " no true believer can defect".
That would be a robot. Not a child.
That judgement Is God's property.
He will judge believers that rejected Him.
Not me.
I just report what is written.

 

[Pearl]

Peter completely sold out. Gave up his natural life to follow Jesus.
Then denied him.

Peter wasn't - at that stage - filled with the Holy Spirit.

 

[rebuilder 454]

People who have given their lives to Jesus will never, ever reject him for the trash the Watchtower Org teaches. Those who turn to that evil cult were never true Christians.

I am not osas.
The Bible does not teach that.

 

[Pearl]

I am not osas.
The Bible does not teach that.

Once adopted always adopted.

 

[PS95]

Peter completely sold out. Gave up his natural life to follow Jesus.
Then denied him.
It was so bad, that Jesus said " tell the disciples and peter I am alive "
"...and peter"
The entire meaning of the prodigal is that one inside the family of God ( a born again believer) can be so dulluded as to forsake all to join the world.( reject his father).

The question is not whether a born again blood bought saint can defect.

The question is, as in the prodigal, will they repent and come back.

Paul used " shipwrecked" to describe the born again believer that left the faith.

Jesus used the parable of the sower that described a believer as a growing plant, overcome by the cares of this world and defected.

Now let me share something that's kind of like the light at the end of the tunnel type of thing.
How far will God pursue the one that defects from the faith?
We know that he does pursue them, and it is marked by the the fact of how miserable the people are that were once born again, and have gone back to the world.
So we see God in pursuit of these people that have left the faith. But that doesn't mean that they have not left the faith because they in fact have. Now the question is will they, at some point, come to their senses as the prodigal did.

Conversely, we see, that some believers, have no good fruit. But are laden with wood,hay stubble.
Paul declares they are saved. But their works are burned up

So you could say that believers deceived by watchtower and defected to that cult, will somehow be saved in the end, (GODS MERCY AND KEEPING POWER) But we can never say " no true believer can defect".
That would be a robot. Not a child.
That judgement Is God's property.
He will judge believers that rejected Him.
Not me.
I just report what is written.

I am not osas.
The Bible does not teach that.

I believe also that WE CAN CHOOSE to walk away.
But like I said, I can't be snatched by them, not ever!
there is a difference.