It is true, because Jesus said it is...

[ScottA]

...that "something" was finished at the cross. However, Paul, inspired by the holy Spirit, said, “And if Christ be not raised, your faith is vain; ye are yet in your sins. ”
1 Corinthians 15:17 KJV
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Many take Christ's declaration at the cross , "it is finished", as their complete and end of all argument and now impossible reversal of their salvation. If however the death of Jesus on the cross was all that was necessary to procure your final salvation, then what is Paul talking about? "Ye are yet in your sins"? What is it about the resurrection that takes care of that sin problem, of all was "finished at the cross" as many testify?

Paul explained, saying, "but each one in his own order." That is--even Christ, who came in the midst of days. But what does it matter--if He was "slain before the foundation of the world", and if all in their own time are "in Christ" and "were" crucified with Him?

In other words, the illusion of Time...is quite biblical...as it is written.

Therefore, Jesus being the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End, those "in Christ" "were" procured by Him from end to end. Thus, if we say it is finished in receipt of our passing from death to life everlasting--nothing is yet to be finished regarding that new creation born of God, each in our own time. For it is written of Him for all time...regardless.

 

[David in NJ]

Christ finished the work He was sent to do.
He was (and is) the Lamb without spot or blemish. Sacrificed for our sins. The New Covenant was written in His blood.

He is now the Mediator of that New Covenant, our High Priest who ever liveth to make intercession on our behalf.

He could have just as easily said "It has begun", either statement would have been correct.

The Answer to Sin was Displayed by the Sinless begotten Son of God who was Nailed to the Cross.

Therefore, the SAVIOR Said, while nailed to the cross, "IT IS FINISHED"

Since God FINISHED what man could not, whoever seeks to add to God's FINISHED WORK, which is SABBATH REST in CHRIST, is seeking to work on God's SABBATH REST and is worthy of Eternal Judgment.

 

[David in NJ]

So were the sins of Israel atoned for by the sacrifice, without the priest entering the Tabernacle?

Which came first, the chicken or the egg???

Can the High Priest enter the Holy of Holies without Blood???

THINK TRUTH = Post #22

 

[Brakelite]

Which came first, the chicken or the egg???

Can the High Priest enter the Holy of Holies without Blood???

THINK TRUTH = Post #22

No, he could not. But He did have to enter and minister there by sprinkling and using his finger to wipe the blood on the burns of the altar. All necessary parts of the ritual, and service of the ancient sanctuary, all of which pointed ultimately to the ministry of Christ on the heavenly sanctuary, without which we would still be in our sins. I am not talking about the Sabbath. You brought that up, not me.

 

[Brakelite]

The Answer to Sin was Displayed by the Sinless begotten Son of God who was Nailed to the Cross.

Therefore, the SAVIOR Said, while nailed to the cross, "IT IS FINISHED"

Since God FINISHED what man could not, whoever seeks to add to God's FINISHED WORK, which is SABBATH REST in CHRIST, is seeking to work on God's SABBATH REST and is worthy of Eternal Judgment.

The answer to sin is the gospel, and the gospel of necessity must include the ministry of Christ as our High Priest, mediating, sanctifying, interceding on our behalf before the throne of His Father. Just as the priests did in the OT in order to complete the atonement. Note that many sacrifices were offered throughout the year by penitent sinners, but the final full atonement wasn't accomplished until the day of atonement at the end of the Jewish religious calendar. That atonement was not completed outside the sanctuary on the altar of sacrifice. Just as our full atonement was not completed outside the heavenly sanctuary of which the OT Tabernacle and temple were types, on Calvary. Certainly Christ finished something on Calvary when He cried out, it is finished, but it wasn't the complete work that saves us. There was more work for Christ to yet accomplish after the resurrection.

 

[David in NJ]

The answer to sin is the gospel, and the gospel of necessity must include the ministry of Christ as our High Priest, mediating, sanctifying, interceding on our behalf before the throne of His Father. Just as the priests did in the OT in order to complete the atonement. Note that many sacrifices were offered throughout the year by penitent sinners, but the final full atonement wasn't accomplished until the day of atonement at the end of the Jewish religious calendar. That atonement was not completed outside the sanctuary on the altar of sacrifice. Just as our full atonement was not completed outside the heavenly sanctuary of which the OT Tabernacle and temple were types, on Calvary. Certainly Christ finished something on Calvary when He cried out, it is finished, but it wasn't the complete work that saves us. There was more work for Christ to yet accomplish after the resurrection.

Certainly Christ finished something on Calvary when He cried out, it is finished, but it wasn't the complete work that saves us

And with your erroneous belief a new HERESY is born............the slippery slope of religion that goes downward and away from Salvation.

the LORD Said, on the Cross "It is FINISHED" = this is where a man finds Salvation

The Prophecy of God to Satan was Fulfilled when the Lord came to earth and then laid His Life down to pay for the sins of the world.
the LORD Said: "It is FINISHED" = this is where a man finds Salvation

The Resurrection PROVED, first to Satan and all of the angels, then secondly to His Disciples, Israel and all the world that MESSIAH committed "No Sin" !!!

Therefore the Apostle Paul writes: "if Christ is not risen from the dead then you are still in your sins"

There does not exist a single scripture of your disrespectful "whatever he accomplished on the cross"

After the Resurrection, Jesus ascended back to the FATHER and HE sanctified the Holy Place in HEAVEN with His Blood.

This is not the "work" that you are alluding to, as you erroneous belief to which you seek to claim;
was lacking by JESUS while on the Cross Saying LOUD and CLEAR = "It is FINISHED"

the LORD Said: "It is FINISHED" = this is where a man finds Salvation

And on the seventh day God finished His work which He had done, and He rested on the seventh day from all His work which He had done. Then God blessed the seventh day and sanctified it, because in it He rested from all His work which God had created and made.

The Seventh DAY has Come and HE FINISHED the WORK of SALVATION = Himself

It is thru this FINISHED Work on the Cross that a man/woman can find REST = NOT on Saturday

Now we who have believed enter that Rest, just as God has said, “So I declared on oath in my anger,
‘They shall never enter my rest.’”
And yet His works have been finished since the creation of the world.

the LORD, our High Priest is not in Heaven finishing the work of Salvation

JESUS is in Heaven interceding on our behalf as we walk in Salvation so that the Holy Spirit can minister
life and peace and joy and testimony and WITNESS to family , friends, neighbors and the world.

"Looking to JESUS the Author and Finisher of our Faith" = from the same writer & book of Hebrews

There is MORE Prophecy and Sanctification to be fulfilled, but the Work of Salvation was FINISHED on the Cross

 

[Hey You!]

...that "something" was finished at the cross. However, Paul, inspired by the holy Spirit, said, “And if Christ be not raised, your faith is vain; ye are yet in your sins. ”
1 Corinthians 15:17 KJV
Unfeigned Bible
Many take Christ's declaration at the cross , "it is finished", as their complete and end of all argument and now impossible reversal of their salvation. If however the death of Jesus on the cross was all that was necessary to procure your final salvation, then what is Paul talking about? "Ye are yet in your sins"? What is it about the resurrection that takes care of that sin problem, of all was "finished at the cross" as many testify?

Jesus finished Keeping the Law of Moses...

He had to remain Sinless his entire Life. But Jesus had to be our Scapegoat and be presented Alive to God. This is why he had to be raised from the Dead. The Resurrection is the Second Half of the Atonement; it is the Expiation to his Propitiation on the Cross, which was his Sacrifice and his Substitutionary Atonement...

Propitiation and Expiation ~ * August 19

Numbers 35:33-34 NASB; 'So you shall not pollute the land in which you are; for blood pollutes the land and no expiation can be made for the land for the blood that is shed on it, except by the blood of him who shed it. 'You shall not defile the land in which you live, in the midst of which I dwell; for I the LORD am dwelling in the midst of the sons of Israel.

There are two words used in the Bible which define Atonement for Sins; Propitiation and Expiation. I would like to discuss the meaning of both of these words, since both of the words are very rarely talked about. Propitiation means to make an Atonement for something you did wrong; to Pay for the Wrong that was done. In the Old Testament days, this is why they made Bloody Sacrifices; all Sin deserves Death. The animals that were used in these Sacrifices Covered Sins that we needed to be Forgiven for, and they died in place of Israelites as penalty for their Sins. God Commanded Israel not to defile their Land because he wanted to dwell with them; and to have fellowship with them. God cannot have anything to do with Sin though. Sin separated them from God. However, God loved them so much that he is Faithful to provide a Way to Pay for their Sin; IE through Propitiation…

Expiation is like Propitiation. Since Propitiation Pays the Wages of Sin, Expiation Removes Sin from your Record. The only place we see Expiation in the Old Testament is on the Day of Atonement, when two Goats were used for one Sacrifice. One goat was Sacrificed on an Altar for its blood, the other Goat Carried the Sins of Israel away; that’s Expiation. Propitiation and Expiation are often interchangeable but there is a difference; or there was. If only one goat was Sacrificed, Israel’s Sins couldn’t be ‘removed’; only Paid for. ~ Have you ever told a Lie? Yes. Has that Sin been removed? Without the Jewish Temple, you cannot even have a Day of Atonement to slaughter a goat, right? The Wages of Sin is Death, as seen in the Animal Sacrifice; would you be Guilty? Would you go to Hell? Does it bother you? ~ The Good News is that you don’t need a Temple, there’s another Way…

Propitiation and Expiation are no longer divided between two goats; they are now One in the Lord Jesus Christ! ~ For God so loved the world he gave his only Unique Son, that whosoever believes in him shall not perish but have everlasting Life. Jesus kept God’s Ten Commandments his entire Life, so he qualified to be the Lamb who ‘takes away’ the Sin of the world. He did so by shedding his Blood and dying on God’s Alter, a Roman Cross; Propitiation was finished. He was buried but arose from his grave as the Scapegoat for Confessed Sins; if Jesus is not Risen, we are to be Most pitied because there is no Expiation for us. Jesus ascended to the right hand of God his Father, and will return to Judge the Living and the Dead. We’re Saved by Grace through Faith, without Working to Remove our Sin. Confess Jesus Christ as your Lord and God, Repent of your Sinful ways; and God will Dwell with you, and in you. Find a local Church which loves this Gospel as much as you do. ~ The Bible says that God is our Savior, right? The duality of the two goats is a Sign Post directing us to the duality of God and Man in Jesus Christ. A Man can be slaughtered, but can he live again? If that Man is also God, he can; and he can Raise you from the Dead too, no Matter how long you have to wait…

Deuteronomy 4:29 NASB; "But from there you will seek the LORD your God, and you will find [Him] if you search for Him with all your heart and all your soul

 

[Hey You!]

Is it merely about our believing in Christ's resurrection, or is there something intrinsically vital to our salvation that wasn't finished at the cross, but necessitated the resurrection and what followed, in order to complete the atonement?

In Leviticus 16, both Young Goats are said to make the Atonement. Therefore we see that without the Scapegoat, the Sacrificial Goat alone is Moot...

Fit man ~ * April 10

Leviticus 16:21 KJV; And Aaron shall lay both his hands upon the head of the live goat, and confess over him all the iniquities of the children of Israel, and all their transgressions in all their sins, putting them upon the head of the goat, and shall send him away by the hand of a fit man into the wilderness:

In chapter 16 of the book of Leviticus, Moses gives instructions to the Priest who performed the Sacrifices made to God on the Annual ‘Day of Atonement’ ritual. The Priest first had to make a Sacrifice for himself and his family, then he would make a Sacrifice for the Sin of Israel with two young goats. The Priest cast Lots in order to determine which goat would be the bloody Sacrifice and which goat would be the Scapegoat. The Priest took the Sacrificial goat and killed it on the Alter, to shed blood for the Remission of Israel’s Sins for that year. After this, the Priest would put both of his hands on the Scapegoat, and confess the Sins of Israel upon it. Then a Fit Man would lead the Scapegoat and its burden of Sin out of the camp to the wilderness. It would be let loose and sent to desert places far away, never to return; and be presented alive to God…

But you ask, “Why the two goats? Didn’t the Priest make Atonement with the Sacrificial goat?” The Priest did make Atonement with the Sacrificial goat; but he also made Atonement with the Scapegoat. Leviticus 16:10 says, “But the goat, on which the lot fell to be the Scapegoat, shall be presented alive before the LORD, to make an Atonement with him and let him go as a Scapegoat into the wilderness.” We see that both goats were needed to make an Atonement for the nation of Israel; without both, the Atonement would’ve fallen short. You ask, “What’s this Atonement business??” ~ God has said that without the shedding of blood there is no Remission of Sin. Sin is Transgressing the boundaries where there are signs posted which say ‘No Trespassing’. These no trespassing signs are carved in stone and called the Ten Commandments. Have you ever told a Lie? What do you call a person who tells Lies? If you call someone a Liar for Lying to YOU, you would be a Liar for telling a Lie; Quid Pro Quo? That is just one of the Ten Commandments; if there is a God, would you be guilty of Sin? Read the Ten Commandments in Exodus chapter 20 and see how easy it is to break Gods Law. You will need a Sacrificial lamb AND a Scapegoat to keep you out of Gods prison, which is the fires of Hell. ~ But the Temple no longer exists…

John the Baptist said that Jesus was the Lamb of God which takes away the Sin of the world. The ‘Day of Atonement’ ritual was symbolic of Jesus in that he fulfilled the requirements of both the young goats. Jesus shed his blood because he was scourged by the Romans nearly to the death. Then he was led out of the city of Jerusalem, led out of the camp, by a Fit Man. ~ After they had scourged and mocked Jesus, they took the robe off from him, and put his own clothes on him, and led him away to Crucify him. And as they came out, they found a man of Cyrene, Simon by name: him they compelled to bear his Cross. Simon fulfills the role of the Fit Man who leads the Scapegoat out of Jerusalem to the place of Crucifixion. Jesus died that day but he rose from the dead and was presented alive to the LORD. The Bible authenticates itself and it’s trustworthy; Jesus is trustworthy. Place your Faith in him, Repent of your Sins and Confess him as Lord, and God will be pleased to declare you as innocent as a lamb; the lamb of God, Jesus Christ…

1st Timothy 1:15 KJV: This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief.