no that is saying how to you get eternal life... not that the Bible is eternal life... big difference... try again... we are talking about you believing that the Bible is eternal life... stay focused please..
Is your Faith in the Bible or is it in God?
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Michiah-Imla
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I disagree with you.
There! I answered your question.
Now what is “god” telling you lately?
I can do that very same thing as well and quote scripture to you all day long...
John 5:39 Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me. 40And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life.
according to your own belief that the Bible is God's word... God's word contradicts your thought as to the Bible being eternal life it and of itself...
I'm glad you disagree.. doesn't matter.. you called Jesus Himself a liar, since you like to use the Bible and you believe that the Bible is eternal life... so once you answer my question I will gladly answer yours...
Absolute rubbish! The bible is where we learn about God; His love, His grace, His purposes. Without the bible how could we ever really know Him. My faith is the God of the bible; in His son Jesus the Christ and in His Holy Spirit.
Michiah-Imla
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Yes, that’s just so stupid to do, huh? [attempted sarcasm]
Are you going to share your conversations with “god” with us or not?
So it seems to me that True Faith must be part of the JW cult or something similar. Sounds like he has no faith in the written word of God.
atpollard
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Fallacy Name:
False Dilemma
Alternative Names:
Excluded Middle
False Dichotomy
Bifurcation
Fallacy Category:
Fallacies of Presumption > Suppressed Evidence
Explanation
The False Dilemma fallacy occurs when an argument offers a false range of choices and requires that you pick one of them. The range is false because there may be other, unstated choices which would only serve to undermine the original argument. If you concede to pick one of those choices, you accept the premise that those choices are indeed the only ones possible. Usually, only two choices are presented, thus the term "False Dilemma"; however, sometimes there are three (trilemma) or more choices offered.
This is sometimes referred to as the "Fallacy of the Excluded Middle" because it can occur as a misapplication of the Law of the Excluded Middle. This "law of logic" stipulates that with any proposition, it must be either true or false; a "middle" option is "excluded". When there are two propositions, and you can demonstrate that either one or the other must logically be true, then it is possible to argue that the falsehood of one logically entails the truth of the other.
That, however, is a tough standard to meet - it can be very difficult to demonstrate that among a given range of statements (whether two or more), one of them absolutely has to be correct. It certainly isn't something which can simply be taken for granted, but this is precisely what the False Dilemma Fallacy tends to do.
From False Dilemma FallacyFalse Dilemma
Alternative Names:
Excluded Middle
False Dichotomy
Bifurcation
Fallacy Category:
Fallacies of Presumption > Suppressed Evidence
Explanation
The False Dilemma fallacy occurs when an argument offers a false range of choices and requires that you pick one of them. The range is false because there may be other, unstated choices which would only serve to undermine the original argument. If you concede to pick one of those choices, you accept the premise that those choices are indeed the only ones possible. Usually, only two choices are presented, thus the term "False Dilemma"; however, sometimes there are three (trilemma) or more choices offered.
This is sometimes referred to as the "Fallacy of the Excluded Middle" because it can occur as a misapplication of the Law of the Excluded Middle. This "law of logic" stipulates that with any proposition, it must be either true or false; a "middle" option is "excluded". When there are two propositions, and you can demonstrate that either one or the other must logically be true, then it is possible to argue that the falsehood of one logically entails the truth of the other.
That, however, is a tough standard to meet - it can be very difficult to demonstrate that among a given range of statements (whether two or more), one of them absolutely has to be correct. It certainly isn't something which can simply be taken for granted, but this is precisely what the False Dilemma Fallacy tends to do.
Michiah-Imla
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Don’t listen to that voice anymore. It’s lying to you.
Ah man!
You tricked me!! Or are you a ‘bot’???
WELL, it’s been fun wasting time with you. But I’ll move on now. At least I got a few laughs out of this.
now with out the bible explain to me how it is false??? according to God, how is what I am saying false...
We are Christians. We use the bible. Obviously you are not one of us.
Michiah-Imla
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Actually if you use the Bible you are bound to it... else you call it all lies...
Michiah-Imla
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I do not insist on being the only one who is right on a point, even though I may believe it. The proof is in God to anyone to whom He has revealed what is true or not. I refer people who question this to what Solomon wrote a thousand years before Jesus was born in Bethlehem.
"Every way of a man is right in his own eyes: but the LORD pondereth the hearts." Prov 21:2
"Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen." Heb 11:1
Who is stepping out on the water keeping his eyes on the Lord, and who is looking fearfully down at the deadly water beneath his feet?
Being led and directed always by God even when we do not and seemingly cannot understand it all.
The answers you need, when you need them. God alone always knows what they are and when they are needed.
"O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.
O LORD, correct me, but with judgment; not in thine anger, lest thou bring me to nothing." Jerem 10:23-24
Indeed, it is a difficult thing for many... In what Book or Bible did Abraham have faith?
"By faith Abraham, when he was called to go out into a place which he should after receive for an inheritance, obeyed; and he went out, not knowing whither he went.
By faith he sojourned in the land of promise, as in a strange country, dwelling in tabernacles with Isaac and Jacob, the heirs with him of the same promise:" Heb 11:8-9
I did not read or own a Bible until I was 32 years of age but my first recalled encounter with God occurred 26 years earlier at 6 years of age.
Now at 78 I read my Bible daily, but I also talk with and listen to God. Where is the Life?
"Not that we are sufficient of ourselves to think any thing as of ourselves; but our sufficiency is of God;
Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life" II Cor 3:5-6
The Spirit of God does not dwell in unopened or unread books, not even the Bible, but in people.
Who has eyes to see and ears to hear from God? Not every Bible reader.
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