Is there a difference in " FALSE " teaching & error in teaching ?

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David in NJ

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I don't see you "preaching of the Gospel of the LORD Jesus Christ" :rolleyes:

Again: you are talking about JWs but not about what they teach with the Bible. You are deceiving yourself about what is important.

Again: in the first century there was a group directing the preaching work and showing others what Christians should teach:

Mat. 28:19 Go therefore and make disciples of people of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the holy spirit, 20 teaching them to observe all the things I have commanded YOU. And, look! I am with YOU all the days until the conclusion of the system of things.

In the modern era, religious independence is a fashion that prevents believers from recognizing who are those who in this age have been chosen by Jesus to teach the things that must be preached to the rest of the world. Today all want to be anointed and interpreters, and no one wants to have someone to tell him what to believe or teach.

Do you have anyone to learn from, or you do teach yourself as the rest of the independent "Christians" who are causing the religious confusion among believers? hmmx1:
Mat. 28:19 Go therefore and make disciples of people of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the holy spirit, 20 teaching them to observe all the things I have commanded YOU. And, look! I am with YOU all the days until the conclusion of the system of things.

Do you believe this?
 
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Mat. 28:19 Go therefore and make disciples of people of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the holy spirit, 20 teaching them to observe all the things I have commanded YOU. And, look! I am with YOU all the days until the conclusion of the system of things.

Do you believe this?
Thanks for reminding me why I am a Jehovah's witness.

Do you preach something? If so, what?

We preach the Kingdom of God and teach others how to enter it. We use the Bible and follow our instructors like first Christians did after listening the apostles.

Who do you listen to?

PS: Remember that this topic is about the religious confusion that exists in the world today. Witnesses are not part of that confusion, because we know what we believe and we can prove it with the Scriptures and that is worldwide. Our mission is to help others to get out of that confusion that the author of this thread talks about.
 

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Thanks for reminding me why I am a Jehovah's witness.

Do you preach something? If so, what?

We preach the Kingdom of God and teach others how to enter it. We use the Bible and follow our instructors like first Christians did after listening the apostles.

Who do you listen to?

PS: Remember that this topic is about the religious confusion that exists in the world today. Witnesses are not part of that confusion, because we know what we believe and we can prove it with the Scriptures and that is worldwide. Our mission is to help others to get out of that confusion that the author of this thread talks about.
#1 - God never instructed you or anyone to be a 'jehovah witness'.

#2 - The Kingdom of God is the LORD Jesus Christ = Colossians ch1 , Mark ch12 , Revelation ch1

#3 - "No one comes to the FATHER except thru the SON = John ch6
 
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It looks that you don't know what this instruction means:

Matt. 28:19 Go, therefore, and make disciples of people of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the holy spirit, 20 teaching them to observe all the things I have commanded you. And look! I am with you all the days until the conclusion of the system of things.

If you need to learn about any biblical matter, just ask ... or you can participate on any of my threads. I have opened some to analize what the Bible teaches about different matters... to whom it may concerned. ;)

Have a good day.
 

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Doomed by religion and unbelief.

Salvation is in YHWH alone and: "This is the ‘stone which was rejected by you builders, which has become the chief cornerstone.’
Nor is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved.”

The Name above all names LORD Jesus Christ
Salvation comes through many aspects. You have to know God David, similar to mans laws, ignorance of the law is not excuse. Jehovah has put the avenues in place to know Him, and to obey His laws for Christians. Most people reject Him as prophesied. Each of us has to choose which God we worship, myself and my household have chosen to serve Jehovah sir. If you would like I would be more than happy to help you to learn more about Him sir. Coming to know Him and the one whom He has sent, is really the first step of getting on the road to everlasting life (salvation).
 
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Robert Gwin

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In no wise have I said that. You've left reason, and now are putting words into my mouth to argue against. I'll leave you to it.

Much love!
Then explain how the Bible states Jesus raised himself from the dead, and God raised him from the dead, I am listening, I did it, now it is your turn sir.
(John 2:19) . . .Jesus replied to them: “Tear down this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.. . .
(Acts 2:32) . . .God resurrected this Jesus, and of this we are all witnesses. . .
(Acts 3:15) . . .God raised him up from the dead. . .
 

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There is One Name given under heaven by which men must be saved. Do you know that Name?

Much love!
(Acts 4:10-12) . . .in the name of Jesus Christ the Naz·a·reneʹ, whom you executed on a stake but whom God raised up from the dead, by means of him this man stands here healthy in front of you. 11 This is ‘the stone that was treated by you builders as of no account that has become the chief cornerstone.’ 12 Furthermore, there is no salvation in anyone else, for there is no other name under heaven that has been given among men by which we must get saved.”


All who are saved are saved through him Marks. But make no mistake, those of Mat 7:21-23 called on his name as well sir, salvation has requirements. You have to know God and obey His laws for Christians. I assure you however from historical evidence, God will not overlook one righteous individual.
 

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when i speak i try to get it as correct as i can if i error its does not mAKE me a false teacher. what makes a false teacher is purposely going against the Bible. some examples who is correct the Baptist or the Pentecostals? some Pentecostals believe to be saved one must Baptized in Jesus name only speak in tongues. other Pentecostals dont .

one group of baptist teach osas the other teaches you can walk away from salvation become lost again. this example is dealing with interpretation of scripture. its how many denoms get formed. few years back we had a church that had bible study at restaurant served beer. they called beer and a bible study drink beer while having Bible study... i don t think it lasted very long but still that is wrong imo .
I do understand the differences in denominations & I believe I said this in post 1 ;

"To me,  false teaching goes against the words of God, written for our growth & perfecting. I am seeing much " error" in teachings that we have learned from many sources as we grow from childhood onwards."

Then in post #8 this;

"False teaching" is intentional; to deceive others for whatever personal reasoning the deceiver might have...."

We squared?
 
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Salvation comes through many aspects. You have to know God David, similar to mans laws, ignorance of the law is not excuse. Jehovah has put the avenues in place to know Him, and to obey His laws for Christians. Most people reject Him as prophesied. Each of us has to choose which God we worship, myself and my household have chosen to serve Jehovah sir. If you would like I would be more than happy to help you to learn more about Him sir. Coming to know Him and the one whom He has sent, is really the first step of getting on the road to everlasting life (salvation).
Your words only bring judgment upon you for they are in rebellion against the words of God.

Escape the Judgment and run to the only Salvation God has provided = GOSPEL of God

Let this mind be in you which was also in Christ Jesus, who, being in the form of God, did not consider it robbery to be equal with God,
but made Himself of no reputation, taking the form of a bondservant, and coming in the likeness of men.

And being found in appearance as a man, He humbled Himself and became obedient to the point of death, even the death of the cross. Therefore God also has highly exalted Him and given Him the name which is above every name, that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of those in heaven, and of those on earth, and of those under the earth, and that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
 
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Salvation comes through many aspects. You have to know God David, similar to mans laws, ignorance of the law is not excuse. Jehovah has put the avenues in place to know Him, and to obey His laws for Christians. Most people reject Him as prophesied. Each of us has to choose which God we worship, myself and my household have chosen to serve Jehovah sir. If you would like I would be more than happy to help you to learn more about Him sir. Coming to know Him and the one whom He has sent, is really the first step of getting on the road to everlasting life (salvation).
Only one way, one name to get to the Father and that is by Jesus Christ the Son of God, my LORD & MY SAVIOUR ;MY GOD!
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when i speak i try to get it as correct as i can if i error its does not mAKE me a false teacher. what makes a false teacher is purposely going against the Bible. some examples who is correct the Baptist or the Pentecostals? some Pentecostals believe to be saved one must Baptized in Jesus name only speak in tongues. other Pentecostals dont .

one group of baptist teach osas the other teaches you can walk away from salvation become lost again. this example is dealing with interpretation of scripture. its how many denoms get formed. few years back we had a church that had bible study at restaurant served beer. they called beer and a bible study drink beer while having Bible study... i don t think it lasted very long but still that is wrong imo .
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GOOD GRIEF!! If you fail to get it this time we are done....
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That isn't true though. Never once after the resurrection does any scripture credit the Son as raising himself.
"I lay down My life so that I may take it again" This implies the resurrection. Usually in the NT it is the Father who raises the Son (cf. John 18b) to show His acceptance of His sacrifice. But here the power of Jesus Himself in the resurrection is asserted.

This phrase is an excellent opportunity to show that the NT often attributes the works of redemption to all three persons of the Godhead.

God the Father raised Jesus (cf. Acts 2:24; 3:15; 4:10; 5:30; 10:40; 13:30,33,34,37; 17:31; Rom. 6:4,9; 10:9; 1 Cor. 6:14; 2 Cor. 4:14; Gal. 1:1;Eph. 1:20; Col. 2:12; 1 Thess. 1:10)

God the Son raised Himself (cf. John 2:19-22; 10:17-18)
God the Spirit raised Jesus (cf. Rom. 8:11)

Would you agree?
Johann.
 

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"I lay down My life so that I may take it again" This implies the resurrection.

That is a common and incorrect assumption. Did lay down his life means he committed suicide? No? Then taking it up was not a resurrection. He willingly allowed himself to be murdered which is not the same as suicide, and he took his life back up in the same manner Lazarus did when he stood on his own after being resurrected.




Usually in the NT it is the Father who raises the Son (cf. John 18b)

More than "usually" Always and only.


Would you agree?


No.
 

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Take a few moments to reflect on the Truth of God’s Word:

  • But God raised him from the dead, freeing him from the agony of death, because it was impossible for death to keep its hold on him. Acts 2:24
  • When he died, he died once to break the power of sin. But now that he lives, he lives for the glory of God. So you also should consider yourselves to be dead to the power of sin and alive to God through Christ Jesus. Romans 6:10-11
  • The Spirit of God, who raised Jesus from the dead, lives in you. And just as God raised Christ Jesus from the dead, he will give life to your mortal bodies by this same Spirit living within you. Romans 8:11