Is there a difference in " FALSE " teaching & error in teaching ?

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Keturah

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God  desires for us to come to him....." Those that seek me early,shall find me." We must remain " in Christ".
Jesus said to " come take my yoke upon you for my burden is easy & light".
 
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Cool man, thank you for expressing what you disagree with. Love you, and you have a good day sir.

At least we can all gather around the bonfire, eat some food, and celebrate the resurrection of the Lord jesus Christ, who brings back souls up from the land of the dead, praise be to the Father in heaven.
You edited your post @MatthewG and I have e sword on my computer-not to be harsh, I don't hold to the teachings of CULT
Shalom.
 
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Keturah

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It's actually just the opposite.

1 John 3:1-3 KJV
1) Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not.
2) Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.
3) And every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure.

When we KNOW that we will be like Him when we see Him, this hope - expectation based on our believing His promises - will mean that we will purify ourselves.

According to this Scripture, if we have certainty that this will be our future, we purify ourselves.

Much love!

The most of folks I know that believe in OSAS are complacent in both study & prayer.
I believe in "eternal security" @ the end of a life stayed in Christ, the finished race. One doesn't have to come in first place but all must endure until the end of our race. Then shall we hear " well done my good & faithful servant.
 

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*****If a "christian" believes they can "lose their Salvation" then they do not TRUST IN CHRIST to Keep them SAVED.****

This is erroneous teaching.....
Be sober, be vigilant for our adversary roams about seeking whom he may devour. A fully submitted life " in Christ" is our only surety.

We have Christ but we also have warnings to keep us alert to not look back, to be steadfast, hold fast our place, ect. this thought of OSAS cause complacency among believers !
And I would say the opposite is also true can one continue in sin, sinning as a lifestyle and be saved. That would be the evidence one was never saved to begin with according to many scriptures.
 

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It's actually just the opposite.

1 John 3:1-3 KJV
1) Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not.
2) Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.
3) And every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure.

When we KNOW that we will be like Him when we see Him, this hope - expectation based on our believing His promises - will mean that we will purify ourselves.

According to this Scripture, if we have certainty that this will be our future, we purify ourselves.

Much love!

Not everyone is like our dear marks.
 
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And I would say the opposite is also true can one continue in sin, sinning as a lifestyle and be saved. That would be the evidence one was never saved to begin with according to many scriptures.

As the parable said the seed ( the word of God) fell on many soils.......only the good, well tilled, fertilized soil will flourish. It says where it fell did NOT keep it & grow to produce fruit.I will not say any were not saved,I cannot judge this !
 

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Sin will not enter into heaven.
Some seem to think they will slip in by grace but God is no fool, every thought,word & action are being recorded.

This is where folks are indoctrinated in false & erroneous teaching.
 

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As the parable said the seed ( the word of God) fell on many soils.......only the good, well tilled, fertilized soil will flourish. It says where it fell did NOT keep it & grow to produce fruit.I will not say any were not saved,I cannot judge this !
Jesus even warns us with the false teachers that we will know them by their fruits. Those same false teacher ask Christ when did we see you hungry, thirsty and not clothe you or in prison and He said to them "I tell you the truth, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers of mine, you did for me.”
 
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The most of folks I know that believe in OSAS are complacent in both study & prayer.
I wouldn't know what to say about that, but I can attest to the accuracy of that passage.

Much love!
 

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Not everyone is like our dear marks.
Thank you, and that's a really good thing for everyone else, I assure you!

But the thing is, that IS the teaching of Scripture. It's the assurance that God has us safe that releases our faith to trust Him, and in that full trust is a full release from the flesh.

Much love!
 
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Thank you, and that's a really good thing for everyone else, I assure you!

But the thing is, that IS the teaching of Scripture. It's the assurance that God has us safe that releases our faith to trust Him, and in that full trust is a full release from the flesh.

Much love!

Not just buttering your bread, brother. You maintain a steady, pace forward with grace, humility and patience few of us, especially myself, have !
You are loved as a dear brother in Christ. Thank you for being a ROCK !❤️
 

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I'm not understanding your thoughts in your response. I'm sorry.
False or error? If we are following the lead of the Holy Spirit, will we not be where God wants us all to be? He does not want us to speak falsely or to speak in error. He wants us to follow Him.
 
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The thought of "God's Eternal Salvation"?

1) (For some of us) not complacency, but a Great desire to serve God out of
love, instead of fear (of losing some unbiblical 'temporary' salvation):​

Php 4:7 "And the peace of God, which passeth all understanding,​
shall keep your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus."​

2) Is in corroboration with obedience to God's Exhortation in:

Php 4:8 "Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are​
honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever​
things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue,​
and if there be any praise, think on These Things.":​

3) Which are actually Very Many "Positive Acts Of God, at our moment of faith,"
which most very rarely consider, spending way too much time on the negatives of
false teachings?:

God's OPERATION On All HIS New-born babes In CHRIST
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God's Eternal Assurance


my 2cents - Amen.
 
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Thank you, and that's a really good thing for everyone else, I assure you!

But the thing is, that IS the teaching of Scripture. It's the assurance that God has us safe that releases our faith to trust Him, and in that full trust is a full release from the flesh.

Much love!

The scripture says yes we can have assurance in our salvation bc of the work he has done. Yes we are safe in him yet we must be fully armoured as well.
God does not fail ever and by his being that " nail in a sure place" we can enter his rest & trust he will keep us.
 

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False or error? If we are following the lead of the Holy Spirit, will we not be where God wants us all to be? He does not want us to speak falsely or to speak in error. He wants us to follow Him.
Truth is when we FOLLOW the lead of the Holy Spirit we will be exactly where God wants us to be!
 
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The scripture says yes we can have assurance in our salvation bc of the work he has done. Yes we are safe in him yet we must be fully armoured as well.
God does not fail ever and by his being that " nail in a sure place" we can enter his rest & trust he will keep us.
Another I love is,

1 Peter 1:3-5 KJV
3) Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,
4) To an inheritance incorruptible, and undefiled, and that fadeth not away, reserved in heaven for you,
5) Who are kept by the power of God through faith unto salvation ready to be revealed in the last time.

We are being kept by God's power, having an inheritance reserved especially for us.

Much love!
 
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I went here, @GRACE ambassador and I'm not saying we cannot be assured of him nor his work. We are another story for we are fallible.

God will not keep those who don't want to be kept & plz don't jump on " well they never were of"....verse.

I was SAVED & for 17 yrs I followed his leading,filled with the Holy Spirit then something happened that shipwrecked my faith; I backslid on God, just walked away. I lived in every filthy sin I could find, no holding back. I believe had I died in my slop pen I would NOT have ever gone to be with the Lord!
Sin will not go to heaven!

Thank God for his sweet Spirit that came & brought conviction upon me that I returned to the Lord before death; when Israel backslid they were not always so fortunate to return to God before destruction fell on them.

There is on fire for God.
There is cold & dead in sin.
There is lukewarm, wishy-washy & will be spewed from his mouth.
No middle ground can I find.
 
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I myself believe the spirit of man returns to God ( goes above) just as those spirits of animals go below. I'm not set in stone on the soul.
Christians do not base their doctrine on the book of Ecclesiastes. That's what the cults do. Spirits do NOT return to God and that is clear in both the OT and the NT. Before the resurrection of Christ both the souls and the spirits of the righteous ad unrighteous dead went to Sheol/Hades. After the resurrection of Christ the souls and the spirits of the saints go to be with Christ in Heaven. However the unsaved still go to Hades.

As for the spirits of animals that is not necessarily true, since animals do not have souls and spirits. Ecclesiastes 3:21 ASKS A QUESTION. It does not affirm anything. Who knoweth the spirit of man that goeth upward, and the spirit of the beast that goeth downward to the earth? Since God ordained animal sacrifices, He also made sure that animals would not suffer unnecessarily.

As you can see, on one hand you have a concern for sound doctrine, and on the other hand you hold to some questionable beliefs.
 
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If a "christian" believes they can "lose their Salvation" then they do not TRUST IN CHRIST to Keep them SAVED.
But how many genuine Christians believe this nonsense? You always focus on fake Christians and try to lump them with true Christians. But your own beliefs are rather shaky and questionable.
 
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