Is the first resurrection physical or spiritual?
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CadyandZoe
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The question revolves around the interpretation of Revelation chapter 20. In this context, the first resurrection refers to those whom Jesus raises from the dead before the Millennial period.
The reason I started this thread is because of what the Amils believe about Rev. 20:4-6 concerning the first resurrection as is described there in Rev. 20:4-6.
Revelation 20:4-6
King James Version
4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.”
Now the Amils believe the first resurrection mentioned above is describing Jesus’ resurrection, not the resurrection of the physically dead in Christ at the last day.
Now in order to partake in the first resurrection “at the last day“we must be born again of the Holy Spirit. But Amils believe being born again spiritually IS this first resurrection mentioned in Rev 20:4-6. Which is also why they believe this thousand years mentioned in Rev. 20:4-6 started already with the resurrection of Jesus.
So that gives you the context of why I asked the question in the OP.
So the question is, is Rev. 20:4-6 describing Jesus’ resurrection, or is it describing the resurrection of the dead in Christ?
Is it describing people being born again spiritually over thousands of years. Or is it showing those who were already born again of the Spirit being physically resurrected at the last day and being given new immortal bodies?
I believe it is the latter.
Romans 8:29
For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.
So did people not rise in Matthew 27?
The scripture showed that they did and scripture can contradict itself so you’re view can’t be correct
Yes, that is what Premillennialists continue to argue for! The problem is they cannot give a biblical reply to HOW these martyred saints can be resurrected to immortal life BEFORE the seventh trumpet sounds??? NONE shall be resurrected, according to the Scripture, before the seventh trumpet sounds! If they are resurrected bodily they MUST die again, because NO ONE shall have immortal life before the change that shall come when the last trumpet sounds, and TIME shall be no longer!
It would be better for you to refrain from trying to explain Amillennialism since you do not have adequate understanding for Amil.
Amillennialism believes the "first resurrection" is CHRIST! It is through partaking of HIM before we die that we have overcome the second death. The way to have part in Christ's resurrection life is "YE MUST BE BORN AGAIN"! We do this in this age of TIME, symbolized a/the thousand years. When the last trumpet sounds this age of TIME (a/the thousand years) shall be no longer. That is when all who have been born again who have part in the first resurrection CHRIST, shall be bodily resurrected immortal & incorruptible. NONE shall be immortal before this TIME is finished.
I never said they didn’t rise. I’ve said in the past that those saints who rose with Jesus were the firstfruits (plural)of Israel.
Notice …..
1 Corinthians 15:23
But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.
If you understand the order of the 3 ingathering feasts you will also know the first 2 are complete with 1 more ingathering feast left at the feast of trumpets.
You said these martyred souls will be bodily resurrected at the beginning of ONE thousand years! That means you have them resurrected immortal before the change that shall only come when the last trumpet sounds! If they are not resurrected immortal at the beginning of ONE thousand years to come, they MUST die again!
Death shall NOT be swallowed up in victory until the last trump sounds!
1 Corinthians 15:51-55 (KJV) Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory. O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory?
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The first resurrection is of Christ alone! It is by partaking of His life by being born again of His Spirit that man has overcome the second death. It is by being born again that we partake or have part in Christ's resurrection. It is by being born again of the Spirit sent from Christ that man is born again, and both knows and enters the Kingdom of God (SPIRITUALLY)!
If the last trumpet sounds before the thousand years, how can there be one thousand more years of time???
Revelation 10:5-7 (KJV) And the angel which I saw stand upon the sea and upon the earth lifted up his hand to heaven, And sware by him that liveth for ever and ever, who created heaven, and the things that therein are, and the earth, and the things that therein are, and the sea, and the things which are therein, that there should be time no longer: But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets.
Time is eternal, it’s at the end of this world/age that the dead are raised.
Matthew 13:49
So shall it be at the end of the world: the angels shall come forth, and sever the wicked from among the just,
The word “order” means rank or class, as in a military rank. So this verse is saying Christ is ranked the highest (the head) all others are rank lower than that. The verse only gives two ranks which can’t be taken as a definitive or complete list of all ranks or even all the resurrections.
Where is the resurrection of the unsaved, they are not shown in the ranking, and what about those who are alive and remain to be caught up to the Lord, what rank or class are they?
Since 1 Corinthians 15:23 does not contain a complete list of what “order” people should be placed in, the best we can say from this verse is that Christ is first, all others rank second or lower.
Where would you place the barely and wheat harvest? If 1 Corinthians 15:23 only has the fall harvest in view then can we assume the barley and wheat were harvested prior to 53-54 AD, the approximate time 1 Corinthians was written?
Luke 20:34-36
King James Version
34 And Jesus answering said unto them, The children of this world marry, and are given in marriage:35 But they which shall be accounted worthy to obtain that world, and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry, nor are given in marriage:
36 Neither can they die any more: for they are equal unto the angels; and are the children of God, being the children of the resurrection.
First they were not all Israel many died before there was an Israel
A body resurrection yes but a spiritual resurrection when we believe
Colossians 3
1Since, then, you have been raised with Christ, set your hearts on things above, where Christ is, seated at the right hand of God.
You said at the coming of Christ how many more comings will there be?
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