Is the first resurrection physical or spiritual?

[tailgator]

John saw souls alive after they had died! You have them resurrected for one thousand years only to die again because they shall not have immortality until the last trumpet sounds! Why? Because you are consumed with the physical, while John sees souls spiritually alive in heaven AFTER having lived and reigned with Christ in life for a thousand years (symbolizing time when they have lived and reigned).

False
Them who died for their testimony of Jesus and are resurected in the first resurection do not die again.

Why do you keep accusing me of saying they die again when I have clearly said they do not die again?

Read this.They do not die again .They live and reign with Christ for a thousand years when Gog comes against them.
They don't die.Gog does.

 

[tailgator]

John is given VISIONS of things that come to pass in TIME! You wish to re-direct the discussion because you cannot answer how these souls can be alive after they have been martyred during their lives which is "a thousand years", not ONE thousand years as you imagine!

False.These who are killed during the time of the beast for their testimony of Christ are resurected at Christ coming and reign with Christ.
And they don't die again as you keep saying.

 

[tailgator]

John is given VISIONS of things that come to pass in TIME! You wish to re-direct the discussion because you cannot answer how these souls can be alive after they have been martyred during their lives which is "a thousand years", not ONE thousand years as you imagine!

A thousand is 1000.

It's not 645
It's not 87.
It's not 356.

 

[tailgator]

John is given VISIONS of things that come to pass in TIME! You wish to re-direct the discussion because you cannot answer how these souls can be alive after they have been martyred during their lives which is "a thousand years", not ONE thousand years as you imagine!

You have not showed where these resurected saints die again as you keep saying.

 

[rwb]

False
Them who died for their testimony of Jesus and are resurected in the first resurection do not die again.

Why do you keep accusing me of saying they die again when I have clearly said they do not die again?

Read this.They do not die again .They live and reign with Christ for a thousand years when Gog comes against them.
They don't die.Gog does.

Those who have part in the first resurrection have overcome the second death! How? It isn't by being bodily resurrected as you imagine, because there will be NONE bodily resurrected immortal until the seventh trumpet sounds. To live and reign with Christ for literally ONE thousand years, humans would have to be immortal, but NONE will be immortal until the seventh trumpet sounds that time shall be no longer!

Your doctrine is a confused, contradictory mess, and finds no help through the Word of God. Your so preoccupied with physical flesh that you have no understanding of the Kingdom of God that is a spiritual Kingdom!

 

[rwb]

You have not showed where these resurected saints die again as you keep saying.

I'm finished replying to your unbiblical opinions!

 

[tailgator]

Those who have part in the first resurrection have overcome the second death! How? It isn't by being bodily resurrected as you imagine, because there will be NONE bodily resurrected immortal until the seventh trumpet sounds. To live and reign with Christ for literally ONE thousand years, humans would have to be immortal, but NONE will be immortal until the seventh trumpet sounds that time shall be no longer!

Your doctrine is a confused, contradictory mess, and finds no help through the Word of God. Your so preoccupied with physical flesh that you have no understanding of the Kingdom of God that is a spiritual Kingdom!

The resurected saints in revelation 20 are resurected at the seventh Trump.
You doctrine is wacko.

Now you say someone who has become immortal.atvthe resurection will die and you still have not showed where they die.
You said the saints resurected in the first resurection in revelation 20 will die after they are resurected .Prove it.

 

[tailgator]

I'm finished replying to your unbiblical opinions!

Revelation 19 which shows Christ coming as MD the beast and false prophet being cast into the lake of fire is biblical.
The resurrection of the saints who died for their testimony of Jesus and their resurection in revelation 20 is biblical.

It's your nonsense that is not biblical.

 

[tailgator]

I'm finished replying to your unbiblical opinions!

Here is my nonsense
It's called the word of Hod


The first resurection.


Revelation 20

4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.

6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

 

[Taken]

Is the first resurrection physical or spiritual?

Spiritual…

New “spiritual”, bloodless, sinless, gloriously holy body’s…
Quickened spirit…& Saved soul returned to their body….
Prepared to SEE and WORSHIP God as He IS….SPIRIT.

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[Biblepaige]

We're told the body returns to dust and our soul returns to God. We're told the perishable cannot inherit the imperishable.
Hasn't God's words already settled this?

 

[Beebster]

We're told the body returns to dust and our soul returns to God. We're told the perishable cannot inherit the imperishable.
Hasn't God's words already settled this?

Our soul dies. The spirit goes back to God.

 

[ewq1938]

Our soul dies. The spirit goes back to God.

Nope. The soul and spirit are united, and they return back to God. Only the body dies at what's called the first death.

 

[Stewardofthemystery]

The first resurrection is Jesus's conquering of the grave.

Jesus was the first of many who will partake of the first resurrection at the last day.

1 Corinthians 15:23
But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.

 

[Stewardofthemystery]

It happened in the past at the cross and resurrection of Jesus it’s already happened

Jesus was the first of many who will partake of the first resurrection at the last day.

1 Corinthians 15:23
But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.

 

[Stewardofthemystery]

When we read of the "first resurrection" it is ALWAYS the bodily resurrection of Christ!

Jesus was the first of many who will partake of the first resurrection at the last day.

1 Corinthians 15:23
But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.

 

[Stewardofthemystery]

Explain the purpose for this imagined first bodily resurrection again that shall come before the last trumpet sounds???

What’s the purpose of having a physical body right now? Clearly the body has a purpose.

 

[Stewardofthemystery]

Why do you believe that a man MUST be bodily resurrected to life, only to die again?

Who said they die again. The new glorified resurrected body is immortal.

1 Corinthians 15:42
So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption

52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.

54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.

55 O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory?

 

[MatthewG]

He had to use the body otherwise you can’t see ghosts.

 

[Biblepaige]

Our soul dies. The spirit goes back to God.

Where's that in the Bible?

Genesis 2:7 And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.