Is knowing what death is a comfort?

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Robert Gwin

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RG, you have steadfastly ignored everything i have said, and just so you know if i did not have a lot of experience with believers in denial, i would have put you on ignore long time ago, k? This is not even a conversation, and you might get a grasp of "holding up your end" of one, with all due respect.

Now you can keep up with that clown talk if you want, but youre only kidding yourself, ok? Merry Bacchus to you
You listed one today Byrd, however you were incorrect as I showed. No need in posting on the topic at 2 different places however.
 

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Actually it is in that version:

Care to try again sir?
RG, if you will just click on the link you will see that it is not, sorry
although “Elohim” is used there, which is…well, we’re still a long way from there i guess, nevermind
 

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We pretty much agree on all the first part of what you said Rw, the Bible does address your last thought however at Acts 24:15: . . .there is going to be a resurrection of both the righteous and the unrighteous.
Those who were God's people both prior to Christ, and afterward will be the righteous, and those who were not belonging to God will be the unrighteous. They have not been judged as goats however, those will be destroyed prior to the resurrection, unrighteous ones mostly will be those who were never given the opportunity to know God and to become His.
The resurrection already happened.
 

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RG, if you will just click on the link you will see that it is not, sorry
although “Elohim” is used there, which is…well, we’re still a long way from there i guess, nevermind
Perhaps you didn't know what you were looking for Byrdie, it clearly said HalleluJah, that is a Hebrew word that when translated into English is rendered Praise Jah, with Jah being his name sir. So yes it is in the New American Standard Version of the Bible.

Any others you think might not contain the Divine name Byrd? I have not been able to find one, but I thought you might have in that one.
 

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been nice pretending to have a convo with you RG, have a happy new year ok
Thanks Byrd, you too sir. I always love bearing testimony about my God, and I certainly appreciate you giving me that privilege with you for sure.
 

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The resurrection already happened.
I definitely agree that the first resurrection has, but of course I cannot prove it since it was invisible to humans. May I ask what convinces you that it has taken place Phil?
 

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Perhaps you didn't know what you were looking for Byrdie, it clearly said HalleluJah, that is a Hebrew word that when translated into English is rendered Praise Jah, with Jah being his name sir. So yes it is in the New American Standard Version of the Bible.

Any others you think might not contain the Divine name Byrd? I have not been able to find one, but I thought you might have in that one.
whatever works for you RG, i mean if being passive-aggressive is what works for you right now, then fine
doesnt make it any truer though, does it?
Surely they would have rendered that "Praise Yah(weh), right? As "j" had not been invented yet, idt

So, we all have these filters i guess, and you just happen to have three; the scribe, the elder, and your own
we'll see which holds you up when the clown talk doesnt work anymore, and you are in free-fall, i guess
you do get the warning about scribes right?
Anyway, i guess one path is as good as another, and i honestly wish you the best with Jehovah ok
 
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Thanks Byrd, you too sir. I always love bearing testimony about my God, and I certainly appreciate you giving me that privilege with you for sure.
well, at least youre batting 1000, i dont think you have addressed a single post of mine yet!
this is quite bad enough among Christians fwiw, but i do notice that JWs take it to a new level
you do understand that i am an actual person, right :)

and not saying that i am any kind of example or anything, but you might notice that i am at least addressing the points in your post, while you are ignoring mine entirely, for the most part? This does not bode well for you, ok? I mean unless you seek to join your elders in the grave?
 

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I'm sorry did not read the OP just title.

I want to know this from a spiritually mature and grounded brother or sister..........
Is it wrong to want to die or pray death to yourself ?

Please read the question carefully. Thank you.
 

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I definitely agree that the first resurrection has, but of course I cannot prove it since it was invisible to humans. May I ask what convinces you that it has taken place Phil?
It having taken place is synonymous with the recognition that proof, convincing, and Phil never actually happened.
“It” is This. “It” is Nothing. Nothing is happening.
I am.
 

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whatever works for you RG, i mean if being passive-aggressive is what works for you right now, then fine
doesnt make it any truer though, does it?
Surely they would have rendered that "Praise Yah(weh), right? As "j" had not been invented yet, idt

So, we all have these filters i guess, and you just happen to have three; the scribe, the elder, and your own
we'll see which holds you up when the clown talk doesnt work anymore, and you are in free-fall, i guess
you do get the warning about scribes right?
Anyway, i guess one path is as good as another, and i honestly wish you the best with Jehovah ok
The NASB version you posted is in English sir. The point is His name was in it, have you found any version that does not contain it at all?
 

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well, at least youre batting 1000, i dont think you have addressed a single post of mine yet!
this is quite bad enough among Christians fwiw, but i do notice that JWs take it to a new level
you do understand that i am an actual person, right :)

and not saying that i am any kind of example or anything, but you might notice that i am at least addressing the points in your post, while you are ignoring mine entirely, for the most part? This does not bode well for you, ok? I mean unless you seek to join your elders in the grave?
The thing is Byrd, everything here is in writing, so one who lies is exposed sir.
 

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The NASB version you posted is in English sir. The point is His name was in it, have you found any version that does not contain it at all?
well RG, im just not interested in your scribe/filter, esp when they are in error, as the original language shows quite plainly, seems to me anyway
 

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Well let's put it this way- when a christian is dying on his/her deathbed, his final words to his christian family and friends will be "See you later" which will give him and them tremendous comfort..:)
But a dying nonchristian will simply say to his nonchristian family and friends "goodbye forever."
End of the road for him-

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..I do agree that all of us Christians believe we will be resurrected, I know I sure do..

We can HOPE we'll be resurrected, but none of us can be sure whether we'll qualify, I know I certainly don't automatically assume I'm "saved"..:)
 

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We have this assurance that we are saved IF we live in and are led by the Spirit. Then are we the children of God !
 

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well RG, im just not interested in your scribe/filter, esp when they are in error, as the original language shows quite plainly, seems to me anyway
Well if you ever run across one Byrd, let me know, I am definitely interested. I haven't been able to either. That tells me that with so many trying to remove it, why are they unable to?
 

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We can HOPE we'll be resurrected, but none of us can be sure whether we'll qualify, I know I certainly don't automatically assume I'm "saved"..:)
You and I are among the few on that sir, most think they are saved and completely ignore Mat 24:13. Heck most people do not even know what the word means, honestly that is the truth. Something so simple and they are blinded to the meaning. For most of us salvation is still quite a ways off. May I ask you, do you believe saved and salvation is the same thing, and if you do or don't, may I ask you to define it/them? Just to see if we both agree what it is.
 
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