Is God sending people straight to hell when they die, today?

[Behold]

You're twisting Scripture. Partakers of the Holy Spirit are Christians!

If you're right I can NEVER be unsaved. If you're wrong you certainly can become unsaved!

The born again, are the Christians.

See, being born again, is the only proof you are saved., and in Hebrews 6 and 10 and Acts 28, they were partakers, but they were not BELIEVERS.. and "without faith its impossible to please God" and its impossible for God to accept you as His own.

 

[Behold]

Unload ALL SCRIPTURE my friend .

Just read what i wrote.
You didnt understand it the last 10x i showed you, and here you are again, exactly the same.
You just want to create strife.
Ive never seen you do anything else on the Forum.
You only want to block truth, mock truth, and repeat.
Just remember what the Mod told you before you left, the last time.
He was not kidding you.

 

[amigo de christo]

The born again, are the Christians.

See, being born again, is the only proof you are saved., and in Hebrews 6 and 10 and Acts 28, they were partakers, but they were not BELIEVERS.. and "without faith its impossible to please God" and its impossible for God to accept you as His own.

Most aint born again . THE PROOF is in this other jesus so many follow .
SO allow me some parting words . IF we have to omit what follows IF
are we really following JESUS . cause the apostels who wrote them letters DID follow JESUS .
They did have the SPIRIT and all warnings and reminders they gave WERE SPIRIT inspired .
Are we heeding men who try and twist stuff to fit their own teachings , IF SO we be in grave danger .
Are we heeding men , OR JESUS CHRIST
or i should say are we heeding jesus or JESUS CHRIST . cause far too many have been preaching another jesus
and i dont think i need to explain why that jesus AINT CAPITALIZED . Well , heck i will anyway , CAUSE IT AINT JESUS CHRIST
AND if the jesus we follow , adhere to and love AINT JESUS CHRIST , guess what
That means the devil been at work through men and we be following the devil not GOD . That is about
as simple as i can put it .

 

[amigo de christo]

Just read what i wrote.
You didnt understand it the last 10x i showed you, and here you are again, exactly the same.
You just want to create strife.
Ive never seen you do anything else on the Forum.
You only want to block truth, mock truth, and repeat.
Just remember what the Mod told you before you left, the last time.
He was not kidding you.

I dont remember leaving . are you sure it was me .

 

[Keiw]

"Water Cults" teach ... that water washes away your sin.

So, avoid those.

Also, people who do not understand the Cross of Christ, that is God's plan of Redemption, believe they can lose their salvation.

So, anyone who is born again, has to be taught that lie., and those are the people that you need to avoid.

See, you never just opened a bible, and found a few verses that made you believe that your salvation, is only as good as your behavior.

You have to be taught that Cross denying theology, before you can teach it.
That's what happened to you.

You are correct about water( baptism) - That is a public declaration that one will serve God all their days.
Repent and turn around to get sins blotted out-Acts 3:19)
One can lose their salvation--Jesus said( Matt 10:22)--Those who endure until their end will be saved. So obvious those that do not endure will not be saved. Endure what?= Living now in this satan ruled world doing Jesus' Fathers will over self.( Matt 7:21)

 

[Behold]

One can lose their salvation--Jesus said( Matt 10:22)--Those who endure until their end will be saved.

Jesus said that when you see the abomination of desolation, then at that time, he/she who endures to the end........OF THAT...shall be saved.

See, you have not understood.... = Endure to the end............OF WHAT. ??????????????

OF WHAT?

See that? That is not crossed your mind, and that is the entire CONTEXT.., and your teacher also does not know, and that is why you dont know.

Listen...

Jesus explained "the END">.... as when you see the Abomination of Desolation......

And THAT is when you ENDURE to the end OF SOMETHING>

What is that something?

Well, when does the Abomination of Desolation OCCUR??

A.) the 2nd 3.5 yrs of the TRIB, = The GREAT TRIB.

So, if you are there, then you have to >>>>>endure to the end of it<<<<, to be saved....

The Bride of Christ wont be there....

 

[Augustin56]

Those who end up in hell do so by their choice. If you've ever been in a dark cave or dark movie theater, and come out into the bright noonday sunlight, you cannot stand the light! It hurts your eyes! You prefer to run back into the dark! Similarly, those who die in mortal sin, won't be able to stand being in the presence of God, and will gladly choose running into the fires of hell, rather than be in His presence.

 

[Michiah-Imla]

They can be ... Doctrine

The scriptures do not say “can be”.

Scripture says “IS PROFITABLE”.

“All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and >>IS<<< profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:” (2 Timothy 3:16, KJV)​

 

[Michiah-Imla]

I dont remember leaving . are you sure it was me

@Behold is confusing you with me.

He thinks I left.

And he’s obviously bent on reopening controversy by being a talebearer.

So sad.

 

[MatthewG]

@Behold is confusing you with me.

He thinks I left.

And he’s obviously bent on reopening controversy by being a talebearer.

So sad.

Good to see you are still around

 

[MatthewG]

Those who end up in hell do so by their choice. If you've ever been in a dark cave or dark movie theater, and come out into the bright noonday sunlight, you cannot stand the light! It hurts your eyes! You prefer to run back into the dark! Similarly, those who die in mortal sin, won't be able to stand being in the presence of God, and will gladly choose running into the fires of hell, rather than be in His presence.

Everyone went to hell even jesus.

Sin had not been paid for until Jesus came, friend.

God raised him back from the dead; he went to hell.

Or its called sheol really, or hadesx

 

[Jack]

Lets look at your verse.

Jesus speaking, and says... not everyone who says to me "Lord Lord" shall enter the KOH.

Paraphrase.... "not everyone who claims to be a Christian, is a real one".

It doesn't say that. You left out the main part.

Many will say to Me in that day, 'Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?' 23 And then I will declare to them, 'I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!'

And you're saying not even one of those was ever saved.

So who is the real one?

A.) Jesus said...."you must be born again".

See, you can give your body to be burned for God, but if you are not born again, you just burned on your way to hell.

A Disciple, is a doer of the word.

A SON/Daughter of God, is a BORN AGAIN Spirit.

So, Jesus is teaching that you can be a DISCIPLE< and not a Christian.

You can be water baptized 678 times and not be born again.

"Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name"

Not a one was saved of the MANY?

 

[Jack]

The born again, are the Christians.

See, being born again, is the only proof you are saved., and in Hebrews 6 and 10 and Acts 28, they were partakers, but they were not BELIEVERS.. and "without faith its impossible to please God" and its impossible for God to accept you as His own.

Why are you preaching OSAS? Do you even know?

 

[JohnDB]

"Water Cults" teach ... that water washes away your sin.

So, avoid those.

Also, people who do not understand the Cross of Christ, that is God's plan of Redemption, believe they can lose their salvation.

So, anyone who is born again, has to be taught that lie., and those are the people that you need to avoid.

See, you never just opened a bible, and found a few verses that made you believe that your salvation, is only as good as your behavior.

You have to be taught that Cross denying theology, before you can teach it.
That's what happened to you.

I never said anything of the sort or hinted at what you are saying.

 

[Keiw]

Jesus said that when you see the abomination of desolation, then at that time, he/she who endures to the end........OF THAT...shall be saved.

See, you have not understood.... = Endure to the end............OF WHAT. ??????????????

OF WHAT?

See that? That is not crossed your mind, and that is the entire CONTEXT.., and your teacher also does not know, and that is why you dont know.

Listen...

Jesus explained "the END">.... as when you see the Abomination of Desolation......

And THAT is when you ENDURE to the end OF SOMETHING>

What is that something?

Well, when does the Abomination of Desolation OCCUR??

A.) the 2nd 3.5 yrs of the TRIB, = The GREAT TRIB.

So, if you are there, then you have to >>>>>endure to the end of it<<<<, to be saved....

The Bride of Christ wont be there....

No where does it say 7 years for the tribulation. We are very near the fall of Babylon the great( worldwide false religions) That triggers the tribulation. There is another spot that mentions enduring until ones end to be saved.

 

[Jack]

No where does it say 7 years for the tribulation. We are very near the fall of Babylon the great( worldwide false religions) That triggers the tribulation. There is another spot that mentions enduring until ones end to be saved.

Ho hum, more Kingdom Hall opinions. You don't even believe your JW bible! Kingdom Hall doesn't even believe their own NWT bible! Why are you trying to teach us?

 

[amigo de christo]

Ho hum, more Kingdom Hall opinions.

Dont be heeding them opinions either . We sticking in the bible my friend .

 

[Keiw]

Ho hum, more Kingdom Hall opinions. You don't even believe your JW bible! Kingdom Hall doesn't even believe their own NWT bible! Why are you trying to teach us?

Only the meek can be taught. The ones Jesus told will inherit the earth( Matt 5:5)-not heaven as the false religions teach.

 

[Jack]

Only the meek can be taught. The ones Jesus told will inherit the earth( Matt 5:5)-not heaven as the false religions teach.

Why can't you quote Scripture? Do you need to consult Kingdom Hall?

 

[MatthewG]

If jesus hadnt came back then ppl still end up in hell, if he has then revelation 21-22