Is Ezekiel Chapter 39 In The Gog/Magog Battle Future And Unfulfilled?

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Truth7t7

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ALL will come forth, but in two separate resurrections as John proves. This matches the two separate resurrections in Rev 20.
The righteous and wicked are resurrected on "The Last Day", at this time the final judgment takes place as the wicked are resurrected to eternal damnation "Final Judgement" The End

John 6:39-40KJV
39 And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day.
40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.

John 5:28-29KJV
28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,
29 And shall come forth;
they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.
 
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You are making the same point I made to @Truth7t7. He is taking Luke 17:29-30 out of context.
Douggg you miss my point, Luke 17:29-30 shows Jesus Is revealed in "Fire" and the wicked are destroyed (The End) just as post #119 above shows, there won't be a Millennial Kingdom on this earth after Jesus returns, it will be dissolved by fire "Gone" it will be New Heaven, Earth, Jerusalem, time (Eternity Begins)
 

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Douggg you miss my point, Luke 17:29-30 shows Jesus Is revealed in "Fire" and the wicked are destroyed (The End) just as post #119 above shows, there won't be a Millennial Kingdom on this earth after Jesus returns, it will be dissolved by fire "Gone" it will be New Heaven, Earth, Jerusalem, time (Eternity Begins)
Does not the Amil view hang its hat on 2Peter3:10 ?

I think that the fallacy of the Amil view is its interpretation that the destruction of this present earth and its heaven disregards that the destruction will take place "within" the day of the Lord. And thinks that the day of the Lord is strictly a singular 24 hr day that the destruction will take place.

Is that not what you think - that the day of the Lord is a singular 24 hr day ?


2Peter3:10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
 

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Does not the Amil view hang its hat on 2Peter3:10 ?

I think that the fallacy of the Amil view is its interpretation that the destruction of this present earth and its heaven disregards that the destruction will take place "within" the day of the Lord. And thinks that the day of the Lord is strictly a singular 24 hr day that the destruction will take place.

Is that not what you think - that the day of the Lord is a singular 24 hr day ?


2Peter3:10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
Douggg your leading up to the day of the Lord is a thousand years and that's Malarkey!

The day of the Lord is like a thief "Quick" in "Sudden" destruction, like a woman birthing a newborn child

For those who claim the day of the Lord is 1,000 years is "laughable"!

Douggg you defy the very clear words of God to maintain a millennial kingdom on this earth that doesn't exist in scripture, its a man made fairy tale

1 Thessalonians 5:1-3KJV
1 But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you.
2 For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night.
3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.
 
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How then do you see it connecting with Daniel's prophecy?

It's like Donald Trump sitting among evangelicals saying he and only he can save Israel.That he is the chosen one and the protector of Israel .Trump says he will do what the word of God says only God can do.And evangelical christians love it when Trump says he is the only one who can keep Israel safe .
Trump has been sitting amidst of the temple point to himself all along.


According to Daniels prophecy,the king of the north gives the beast his armed forces .I have no doubt he believes he can save the beast .After all ,he has already said only he can save Israel .His armed forces will practice the authority of the beast on its behalf

Revelation 13:12
It exercised all the authority of the first beast on its behalf, and made the earth and its inhabitants worship the first beast, whose fatal wound had been healed.
 

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Nope. That's not at all what He said. He said all in the graves would be resurrected. Not just all Israelites in the graves. You're changing the text to fit your doctrine.

I suppose you would try to say that He was only talking about the resurrection of Israelites in verses like this one, too?

John 6:40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.



You're so childish. This isn't some kind of competition. That passage isn't even referring to anyone being resurrected. It's another reference to the souls of the dead in Christ who have been redeemed by the blood of Christ and are now with Christ in heaven.

Can you tell me where in the order Paul gave that they fit if the 144,000 are supposedly resurrected before the rest of the dead in Christ?

1 Corinthians 15:22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive. 23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.

Paul taught nothing about multiple mass resurrections of believers in the future. Instead, he taught that all of the dead in Christ will be resurrected at the same time when Jesus comes again. Do you think that Paul didn't know what he was talking about? Why do you interpret Revelation 14:1-3 in such a way that contradicts what Paul taught? Why do you not care if your interpretations of any given passage contradict other passages or not? That is reckless. Why are you comfortable being reckless with the word of God like that?

Do you even know anything about a harvest?
These are the first fruits just as the word of God says.


Revelation 14​

14 And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion, and with him an hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father's name written in their foreheads.​

2 And I heard a voice from heaven, as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of a great thunder: and I heard the voice of harpers harping with their harps:​

3 And they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and no man could learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth.​

Your just going to have to wait till the 1000 years are finished Veruka darling.​

 

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Why does it have to be meaning at the end of satan's little season after the millennium? Why can't it be meaning in the beginning of the millenium? What would they need fuel for a thousand years from now at the end of satan's little season when the great white throne judgment would be the next main event on the list?

Between you, me, and @Douggg, you believe the 7 years burning of weapons happens after the millennium, while I tend to believe it likely happens at the beginning of the millennium, and that @Douggg tends to think it happens 7 years prior to the beginning of the millennium, assuming I recall correctly. We all can't be correct, that's for certain. Assuming one of us might be correct, I wonder which one of us it might be? Naturally, we each think it is we our self that is correct, except we all can't be correct if we are all coming to different conclusions about the same subject.

Is there another option besides these 3 proposed theories above? If there is, I wouldn't know what it might be. Because, in my mind, Ezekiel 38-39 having already been fulfilled thousands of years ago, therefore, these 7 years are not even relevant anymore because they were already fulfilled thousands of years ago, is not a option.

If nothing else, if it could be proved that this 7 years follows the 2nd coming, this undeniably proves Premil since no other view would be able to explain this 7 years post that of the 2nd coming. @Douggg theory doesn't help prove Premil one way or the other, but yours or mine would.


Below is the order.Pay close attention to when Gog comes against Israel in verses 7-9.


Revelation 20

6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,

8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.

9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.







The priests of Israel are not destroyed at this time and they do not have to stand before God and be judged after the millinium .Israel is resurected before the Sabbath day(1000 years) and they keep the Lords Sabbath.Israel may have a lot of uses for all of Gogs weapons after the Sabbath day.Even when making steel for farm equipment ,you have to have a fuel.The resurected saints in revelation 20 have everlasting life.They will be around for a long long time after the 1000 years has expired.
 
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Zechariah chapter 14 represents the Lord's return "In Fire" and the eternal kingdom being revealed with the river of life flowing out of New Jerusalem "The Day Of The Lord" is seen in Zechariah 14:1 this represents fire time 2 Peter 3:10 "The Day Of The Lord"

Luke 17:29-30KJV
29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.
30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.


Zechariah 14:12KJV
12 And this shall be the plague wherewith the Lord will smite all the people that have fought against Jerusalem; Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their holes, and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth.
I know what the day of the Lord where where the Lord comes to.
Just as he went up into heaven from the mt of olives,so shall he return.

The people being consumed in zech 14:12 are the nations which attacked the prostitute The beast and those ten kings are consumed.




Zech 14
11 And men shall dwell in it, and there shall be no more utter destruction; but Jerusalem shall be safely inhabited.


Jerusalem will be safely inhabited from that day forward.There will no longer be utter destruction of Jerusalem .
 

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You avoided Spiritual Israelites claim again as if it didn't exist, the very reason I don't respond to the majority of your post's

He directly stated there is one future resurrection and he posted John 5:28-29 below in support, and you continue to claim there are resurrection 1,000 literal years apart "False"

"All" that are in the grave shall come forth, "All"!

John 5:28-29KJV
28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,
29 And shall come forth;
they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.
Scripture says there is a resurrection before the 1000 years and a resurection after the 1000 years.

The first resurection of that of the first fruits of the harvest and the resurrection at the end of the 1000 years is the regular harvest.


Anyone with eyes that can see should have no problem comprehend the harvest of the earth.


Revelation 20
20 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.

2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,

3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.

4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.

6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,

8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.

9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.

10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

11 And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.

12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.

13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.

14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.






Spiritual Israelites has openly said revelation 20 makes no sense to him.Like you,he also can not comprehend it.
 
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Douggg your leading up to the day of the Lord is a thousand years and that's Malarkey!
2Peter3:10, Peter says the destruction of this present earth and heaven will take place within the day of the Lord. The day of the Lord will begin when the Antichrist commits the transgression of desolation act of 2Thessalonians2:4. The day of the Lord has no end. But it will have segments. The thousand years being one of them.

The destruction of this present earth and its heaven will be at the time of the Great White Throne Judgment in Revelation 20:11.

Revelation 20:11 And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.

On my chart below.

That there will be a literal thousand years rule of Christ on this present earth is proven by the beast and false prophet being cast into the lake of fire at the beginning of it. While Satan will not be cast into the lake of fire until the thousand years are over in Revelation 20:10.

Revelation 20:10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

On my chart below.



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Zechariah chapter 14 represents the Lord's return "In Fire" and the eternal kingdom being revealed with the river of life flowing out of New Jerusalem "The Day Of The Lord" is seen in Zechariah 14:1 this represents fire time 2 Peter 3:10 "The Day Of The Lord"

Luke 17:29-30KJV
29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.
30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.


Zechariah 14:12KJV
12 And this shall be the plague wherewith the Lord will smite all the people that have fought against Jerusalem; Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their holes, and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth.

Guess what? I pretty much agree with you about some of that. But even so, one then has to explain verses 16-19 since they would be meaning after Luke 17:29 is fulfilled. And that those verses say one can be punished if they fail to come up.

Let's look at a cpl of things here.

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A) Zechariah 14:16 And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles.
17 And it shall be, that whoso will not come up of all the families of the earth unto Jerusalem to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, even upon them shall be no rain.
18 And if the family of Egypt go not up, and come not, that have no rain; there shall be the plague, wherewith the LORD will smite the heathen that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles.
19 This shall be the punishment of Egypt, and the punishment of all nations that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles.
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B) 1 Corinthians 15:28 And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.
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Which seems more likely?

A) is only true before B) is true?

A) is still true after B) is true.

What I mean by true would be something along these lines. What they are doing per A) is only something they are doing before B) is true. Obviously, B) is not true yet. Yet, B) is true, obviously. It's just not true yet since it hasn't been fulfilled yet.

A) involves being threatened with being punished for failing to comply with what is commanded. Once B) is true does it sound reasonable that the threat of being punished would be hanging over someone's head throughout eternity? Keeping in mind, once B) is true and if A) is still true, this means there is zero at this point that prevents A) from continuing in that manner forever.

And since A) can't even come to pass until Luke 17:29 is fulfilled first, well one thing is for certain, A) can't be fulfilled in a single day or less since it is preposterous that the following can be fulfilled in a single day---shall even go up from year to year. If anyone thinks that can be fulfilled in a single 24 hour day, do some of the rest of us a favor and keep that to yourself rather than implying that some of us don't have a brain or something, therefore, we are going to believe preposterous nonsense like that, that verse 16 only involves the last 24 hour day of this age.

Until you or someone else can reasonably explain verses 16-19, and how it fits this present age before Luke 17:29 is fulfilled first, you don't even have an argument in the meantime.
 
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Spiritual Israelites has openly said revelation 20 makes no sense to him.

Is it possible that your interpretation, or even my interpretation of Revelation 20 is what doesn't make any sense to him rather than Revelation 20 doesn't make sense to him, period? I have been knowing him for years, and I suspect it is the former rather than the latter, in this case. And I don't even need to see what he initially said that leads you to conclude that that is what he meant. IOW, I think I know him well enough by now to know he likely meant the former not the latter. Or maybe better yet, not likely but for certain meant the former not the latter.
 
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Is it possible that your interpretation, or even my interpretation of Revelation 20 is what doesn't make any sense to him rather than Revelation 20 doesn't make sense to him, period? I have been knowing him for years, and I suspect it is the former rather than the latter, in this case. And I don't even need to see what he initially said that leads you to conclude that that is what he meant. IOW, I think I know him well enough by now to know he likely meant the former not the latter. Or maybe better yet, not likely but for certain meant the former not the latter.
I interpret revelation 20 just as it is written.
Word for word.
Like I've said many times,it matches Ezekiel 37-39 perfectly.
What spiritual Israelites does not understand is who it is speaking of and why.He rejects the idea that revelation 20 is litteral.

John was given revelation to write after the other apostles were dead.Jesus would not even tell the other apostles what would be revealed through his apostle John.John was instructed to write what they were never instructed to write about.Two separate resurections 1000 years apart .
The key is,John was the only apostle instructed to write about the resurection and he did as he was told.



John 21

20 Then Peter, turning about, seeth the disciple whom Jesus loved following; which also leaned on his breast at supper, and said, Lord, which is he that betrayeth thee?

21 Peter seeing him saith to Jesus, Lord, and what shall this man do?

22 Jesus saith unto him, If I will that he tarry till I come, what is that to thee? follow thou me.

23 Then went this saying abroad among the brethren, that that disciple should not die: yet Jesus said not unto him, He shall not die; but, If I will that he tarry till I come, what is that to thee?



I haven't read or seen in the bible that Peter or Paul either were told to write a book of prophecy.I have no doubt they could write just as we can ,but I know I have not been told by Jesus to prophecy about the resurrection nor do I believe Paul was told by Jesus to write about it.But John was ,and that says everything .

I've posted scripture concerning the harvest of the earth and the first fruits harvest.Spiritual Israelites also does not appear to comprehend the harvest does not happen at once.
There is the first fruits that are brought forth first.Then after a celebration and feast and rest,the regular harvest is brought forth later.
 

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Douggg you defy the very clear words of God to maintain a millennial kingdom on this earth that doesn't exist in scripture, its a man made fairy tale

1 Thessalonians 5:1-3KJV
1 But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you.
2 For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night.
3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.
Use of condescending terms like "fairy tale" and "laughable" and " Malarkey" are not proof.

You left out verses that are in 1Thessalonians5 that indicate the day of the Lord as not being strictly a single 24 hour day.

1Thessalonians5:
4 But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief. [we should be aware of the times we are living in. We have been given by Jesus the parable of the fig tree generation. Israel a nation in the land again, with the Jews in possession of Jerusalem. So that the Gog/Magog event of Ezekiel 38-39 can be fulfilled]

5 Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness.

6 Therefore let us not sleep, as do others; but let us watch and be sober.

7 For they that sleep sleep in the night; and they that be drunken are drunken in the night.

8 But let us, who are of the day, be sober, putting on the breastplate of faith and love; and for an helmet, the hope of salvation. [let us study the scriptures concerning the end times when Jesus's return takes place}

9 For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ,

10 Who died for us, that, whether we wake or sleep, we should live together with him.

11 Wherefore comfort yourselves together, and edify one another, even as also ye do. [verses 9, 10, 11 speak about the rapture/resurrection event, to be prior to God's wrath poured out when the day of the Lord begins.]

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The world saying "peace and safety" indicates that the Great Tribulation will not be going on at that time.

The reason that the saying "peace and safety" will be because the world will think it has entered the messianic age - with the Antichrist as the perceived messiah.

But that delusion will be shattered when like a thief in the night, i.e. unexpectedly, the Antichrist goes into the temple, sits, claims to have achieved God-hood. 2Thessalonians2:4

2Thessalonians2: 2-4 is about when the day of Christ, i.e. the day of the Lord begins.

verse 3 - a great falling away.
verse 4 - the man of sin revealed.

The act in 2Thessalonians2:4 will trigger when the day of the Lord begins - when God's wrath will be poured out.


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The day of the Lord never ends, but does have major segments.

(a) the Great Tribulation, then (b) the thousand year millennium, then (c) eternity

the Great Tribulation will take place as part of the seven years in Ezekiel 39:9
the thousand year millennium in Revelation 20
eternity in Revelation 21, the new heaven, the new earth, the new Jerusalem



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The destruction of this present earth and its heaven will be at the time of the Great White Throne Judgment in Revelation 20:11.
I Agree 100% now were getting somewhere Douggg Gods words are getting through Amen!

Now we need to point clearly to the GWTJ seen in multiple places in scripture

One Example, the parable of the GWTJ in the sheep/goats Matthew 25:31-46

(The Parable Of The Great White Throne Judgement Below)

1. Vs (31) Jesus Returns
2. Vs (34) The righteous saved sheep enter the eternal kingdom
3. Vs (41) The wicked goats are judged to the eternal lake of fire
4. Vs (46) A recap of the final judgement, the wicked goats go to everlasting punishment in the lake of fire, the righteous sheep go to eternal life in the eternal kingdom

Simple, Clear, Easy To Understand, Jesus Returns In Final Judgement (The End)

Matthew 25:31-46KJV
31 When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:
32 And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:
33 And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.
34 Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:
35 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in:
36 Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me.
37 Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink?
38 When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee?
39 Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee?
40 And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.
41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:
42 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink:
43 I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not.
44 Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee?
45 Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me.
46 And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.
 

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Use of condescending terms like "fairy tale" and "laughable" and " Malarkey" are not proof.

You left out verses that are in 1Thessalonians5 that indicate the day of the Lord as not being strictly a single 24 hour day.
Douggg you live in denial of biblical truth before your eyes, fighting desperately to save your millennial kingdom on this earth that doesn't exist in scripture, it's a fairy tale

The day of the Lord is like a thief "Quick" in "Sudden" destruction, like a woman birthing a newborn child

1 Thessalonians 5:1-3KJV
1 But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you.
2 For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night.
3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.
 

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I Agree 100% now were getting somewhere Douggg Gods words are getting through Amen!

Now we need to point clearly to the GWTJ seen in multiple places in scripture

One Example, the parable of the GWTJ in the sheep/goats Matthew 25:31-46
The eternal destiny of persons who will appear before the Great White Throne Judgement is not in question.

Revelation 20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

The issue regarding the correctness or error of the Amil position is...

Is day of the Lord strictly a single 24 hour day, as Amil reasons? That comes like a thief in the night.

2Thessalonians2:1-4 indicates no. The day of the Lord, the day of Christ, begins when the Antichrist commits that act in 2Thessalonians2:4 revealing himself as the man of sin.

Has the man of sin been revealed in such manner that we know who is, the specific person ? no.


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The righteous and wicked are resurrected on "The Last Day"


Not according to scripture, Rev 20.


, at this time the final judgment takes place as the wicked are resurrected to eternal damnation "Final Judgement" The End

John 6:39-40KJV
39 And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day.
40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.

The last day of this age but there are other ages. Only the saved are raised on the last day of this age, while the rest of the dead must wait a thousand years as Revb 20 teaches.



John 5:28-29KJV
28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,
29 And shall come forth;
they that have done good, unto ONE the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto TWO the resurrection of damnation.


Again, this speaks of two resurrections not one. This matches the two resurrections found in Rev 20.
 

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2Peter3:10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.

The day of the Lord there is not the second coming but the day of Judgment at the GWTJ.