Is Ezekiel Chapter 39 In The Gog/Magog Battle Future And Unfulfilled?

[Truth7t7]

God used King Nebuchadnezzar of Babylon to destroy Gog the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal

Jeremiah the prophet to Israel in the Babylonian Captivity proclaims below

1.) King Nebuchadnezzar Was God's Servant
2.) God Used The Hand Of Nebuchadnezzar To Consume The Armies

(Until I Have Consumed Them By His Hand)

Jeremiah 27:6-8KJV
6 And now have I given all these lands into the hand of Nebuchadnezzar the king of Babylon, my servant; and the beasts of the field have I given him also to serve him.
7 And all nations shall serve him, and his son, and his son's son, until the very time of his land come: and then many nations and great kings shall serve themselves of him.
8 And it shall come to pass, that the nation and kingdom which will not serve the same Nebuchadnezzar the king of Babylon, and that will not put their neck under the yoke of the king of Babylon, that nation will I punish, saith the Lord, with the sword, and with the famine, and with the pestilence, until I have consumed them by his hand.

Ezekiel 38:3KJV
3 And say, Thus saith the Lord God; Behold, I am against thee, O Gog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal:

Ezekiel 39:1KJV
1 Therefore, thou son of man, prophesy against Gog, and say, Thus saith the Lord God; Behold, I am against thee, O Gog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal:

King Nebuchadnezzar's Army Destroyed God's Enemies In Ezekiel Chapter 32 Seen Below

Ezekiel 32:26-28KJV
26 There is Meshech, Tubal, and all her multitude: her graves are round about him: all of them uncircumcised, slain by the sword, though they caused their terror in the land of the living.
27 And they shall not lie with the mighty that are fallen of the uncircumcised, which are gone down to hell with their weapons of war: and they have laid their swords under their heads, but their iniquities shall be upon their bones, though they were the terror of the mighty in the land of the living.
28 Yea, thou shalt be broken in the midst of the uncircumcised, and shalt lie with them that are slain with the sword.

Ezekiel 39:11KJV
11 And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will give unto Gog a place there of graves in Israel, the valley of the passengers on the east of the sea: and it shall stop the noses of the passengers: and there shall they bury Gog and all his multitude: and they shall call it The valley of Hamongog.

 

[tailgator]

So you believe Nebuchadnezzar made fire come down out of heaven and destroyed Persia,Ethiopia,Libya after they invaded the land of Israel ,after Israel is gathered back into the land of Israel?


Since Ezekiel 38-39 never mentions the name Nebuchadnezzar,can you show us anywhere else in the bible where Persia,Ethiopia,and Libya invaded Israel and are destroyed by Nebuchadnezzar?

Or has it not happened yet?

 

[tailgator]

You say Nebuchadnezzar made fire and brimstone come down out of heaven and destroyed all of Israels enemies?

22 And I will plead against him with pestilence and with blood; and I will rain upon him, and upon his bands, and upon the many people that are with him, an overflowing rain, and great hailstones, fire, and brimstone.​

You saying Nebuchadnezzar did this?​

 

[tailgator]

This absurd claim of yours raises many questions

What "many nations" do you claim Israel was gathered from before Nebuchadnezzar destroyed Persia ?


Ezekiel 38:8
After many days you will be called to arms. In future years you will invade a land that has recovered from war, whose people were gathered from many nations to the mountains of Israel, which had long been desolate. They had been brought out from the nations, and now all of them live in safety.

 

[Hobie]

God used King Nebuchadnezzar of Babylon to destroy Gog the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal

Jeremiah the prophet to Israel in the Babylonian Captivity proclaims below

1.) King Nebuchadnezzar Was God's Servant
2.) God Used The Hand Of Nebuchadnezzar To Consume The Armies

(Until I Have Consumed Them By His Hand)

Jeremiah 27:6-8KJV
6 And now have I given all these lands into the hand of Nebuchadnezzar the king of Babylon, my servant; and the beasts of the field have I given him also to serve him.
7 And all nations shall serve him, and his son, and his son's son, until the very time of his land come: and then many nations and great kings shall serve themselves of him.
8 And it shall come to pass, that the nation and kingdom which will not serve the same Nebuchadnezzar the king of Babylon, and that will not put their neck under the yoke of the king of Babylon, that nation will I punish, saith the Lord, with the sword, and with the famine, and with the pestilence, until I have consumed them by his hand.

Ezekiel 38:3KJV
3 And say, Thus saith the Lord God; Behold, I am against thee, O Gog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal:

Ezekiel 39:1KJV
1 Therefore, thou son of man, prophesy against Gog, and say, Thus saith the Lord God; Behold, I am against thee, O Gog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal:

King Nebuchadnezzar's Army Destroyed In Ezekiel Chapter 32 Seen Below

Ezekiel 32:26-28KJV
26 There is Meshech, Tubal, and all her multitude: her graves are round about him: all of them uncircumcised, slain by the sword, though they caused their terror in the land of the living.
27 And they shall not lie with the mighty that are fallen of the uncircumcised, which are gone down to hell with their weapons of war: and they have laid their swords under their heads, but their iniquities shall be upon their bones, though they were the terror of the mighty in the land of the living.
28 Yea, thou shalt be broken in the midst of the uncircumcised, and shalt lie with them that are slain with the sword.

Ezekiel 39:11KJV
11 And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will give unto Gog a place there of graves in Israel, the valley of the passengers on the east of the sea: and it shall stop the noses of the passengers: and there shall they bury Gog and all his multitude: and they shall call it The valley of Hamongog.

It is the armies that Satan raises up at the end, (note "in the latter days") to come against God's people. Both go out to destroy God's people, both are destroyed with fire and brimstone, (read chapter 38) and if you look you will see they are the vast horde that surrounds the Holy city in Revelation...

 

[tailgator]

It is the armies that Satan raises up at the end, (note "in the latter days") to come against God's people. Both go out to destroy God's people, both are destroyed with fire and brimstone, (read chapter 38) and if you look you will see they are the vast horde that surrounds the Holy city in Revelation...

I think any rational person would see what your seeing ,but we are speaking with the irrational here.
Truth7t7 believes Nebuchadnezzar destroyed Persia,Ethiopia and Libya by raining fire and brimstone from heaven down on them.

No rational person could possibly believe that ever happened when the bible clearly shows Persia subdued Babylon without a fight .He is attempting to rewrite history with his imagination.

 

[Galgal]

Ezekiel 38, 39 is an allegory. Gog from the land of Magog is an image of religions and nations that try to seize God's promises given to the Jews, Israel. This is a collective image of all human traditions in religions, when they try to present the human word as the word of God. Every human word will be killed by another human word, and the word of God, represented by dry bones in the 37th chapter, will come to life, and this will be the Jewish people of Israel.

 

[tailgator]

Ezekiel 38, 39 is an allegory. Gog from the land of Magog is an image of religions and nations that try to seize God's promises given to the Jews, Israel. This is a collective image of all human traditions in religions, when they try to present the human word as the word of God. Every human word will be killed by another human word, and the word of God, represented by dry bones in the 37th chapter, will come to life, and this will be the Jewish people of Israel.

I think the word resurection is used when describing people coming out of their graves.

Ezekiel 37
12 Therefore prophesy and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord God; Behold, O my people, I will open your graves, and cause you to come up out of your graves, and bring you into the land of Israel.

13 And ye shall know that I am the Lord, when I have opened your graves, O my people, and brought you up out of your graves,


This is what Jesus said would take place when he comes .You probably believe this is also an allegory ,but most christians believe it will literally happen.



John 5:28
Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,

 

[Douggg]

God used King Nebuchadnezzar of Babylon to destroy Gog the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal

Jeremiah the prophet to Israel in the Babylonian Captivity proclaims below

1.) King Nebuchadnezzar Was God's Servant
2.) God Used The Hand Of Nebuchadnezzar To Consume The Armies

(Until I Have Consumed Them By His Hand)

Jeremiah 27:6-8KJV
6 And now have I given all these lands into the hand of Nebuchadnezzar the king of Babylon, my servant; and the beasts of the field have I given him also to serve him.
7 And all nations shall serve him, and his son, and his son's son, until the very time of his land come: and then many nations and great kings shall serve themselves of him.
8 And it shall come to pass, that the nation and kingdom which will not serve the same Nebuchadnezzar the king of Babylon, and that will not put their neck under the yoke of the king of Babylon, that nation will I punish, saith the Lord, with the sword, and with the famine, and with the pestilence, until I have consumed them by his hand.

Ezekiel 38:3KJV
3 And say, Thus saith the Lord God; Behold, I am against thee, O Gog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal:

Ezekiel 39:1KJV
1 Therefore, thou son of man, prophesy against Gog, and say, Thus saith the Lord God; Behold, I am against thee, O Gog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal:

King Nebuchadnezzar's Army Destroyed In Ezekiel Chapter 32 Seen Below

Ezekiel 32:26-28KJV
26 There is Meshech, Tubal, and all her multitude: her graves are round about him: all of them uncircumcised, slain by the sword, though they caused their terror in the land of the living.
27 And they shall not lie with the mighty that are fallen of the uncircumcised, which are gone down to hell with their weapons of war: and they have laid their swords under their heads, but their iniquities shall be upon their bones, though they were the terror of the mighty in the land of the living.
28 Yea, thou shalt be broken in the midst of the uncircumcised, and shalt lie with them that are slain with the sword.

Ezekiel 39:11KJV
11 And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will give unto Gog a place there of graves in Israel, the valley of the passengers on the east of the sea: and it shall stop the noses of the passengers: and there shall they bury Gog and all his multitude: and they shall call it The valley of Hamongog.

First, what is the Gog/Magog event ?

It is a collective attack on Israel.

Second, when ?

In the latter years, latter days

What are the latter days ?

Daniel 2:28 But there is a God in heaven that revealeth secrets, and maketh known to the king Nebuchadnezzar what shall be in the latter days. Thy dream, and the visions of thy head upon thy bed, are these;

42 And as the toes of the feet were part of iron, and part of clay, so the kingdom shall be partly strong, and partly broken.

43 And whereas thou sawest iron mixed with miry clay, they shall mingle themselves with the seed of men: but they shall not cleave one to another, even as iron is not mixed with clay.

44 And in the days of these kings shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom, which shall never be destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand for ever.

The latter days are the days of the ten kings (ten toes) that the little horn person of Daniel 7-8 will emerge from. We are living in the latter days. The Gog/Magog attack on Israel will take place soon.

 

[Douggg]

Ezekiel 32:26-28KJV
26 There is Meshech, Tubal, and all her multitude: her graves are round about him: all of them uncircumcised, slain by the sword, though they caused their terror in the land of the living.
27 And they shall not lie with the mighty that are fallen of the uncircumcised, which are gone down to hell with their weapons of war: and they have laid their swords under their heads, but their iniquities shall be upon their bones, though they were the terror of the mighty in the land of the living.
28 Yea, thou shalt be broken in the midst of the uncircumcised, and shalt lie with them that are slain with the sword.

Ezekiel 38-39, Gog and Magog are a group of nations that make a collective attack on Israel.

Ezekiel 32 is not describing an attack on Israel anywhere in that chapter.

 

[Davidpt]

I think any rational person would see what your seeing ,but we are speaking with the irrational here.
Truth7t7 believes Nebuchadnezzar destroyed Persia,Ethiopia and Libya by raining fire and brimstone from heaven down on them.

No rational person could possibly believe that ever happened when the bible clearly shows Persia subdued Babylon without a fight .He is attempting to rewrite history with his imagination.

IMO, it's equally irrational to conclude that anything pertaining to Ezekiel 38-39 is involving the same time period Revelation 20:7-9 is involving. The former is involving those that God is still hiding His face from until He executes His judgment on Gog and his multitude first. The latter is hardly involving anyone God is still hiding His face from until He executes His judgment on Gog and his multitude first. Why would God be hiding His face from the camp of the saints meant in Revelation 20:7-9? There is no logic to that. You can't have one account involving God hiding His face from someone, then the other account He isn't hiding His face from anyone, then insist they are involving the same events. Numerous times in Ezekiel 38-39 we are told God is still hiding His face from the house of Israel until He executes His judgment on Gog and his multitude.

 

[Jay Ross]

The simple one-word answer to the question posed in the thread title is,

YES​

 

[ScottA]

God used King Nebuchadnezzar of Babylon to destroy Gog the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal

Jeremiah the prophet to Israel in the Babylonian Captivity proclaims below

1.) King Nebuchadnezzar Was God's Servant
2.) God Used The Hand Of Nebuchadnezzar To Consume The Armies

(Until I Have Consumed Them By His Hand)

Jeremiah 27:6-8KJV
6 And now have I given all these lands into the hand of Nebuchadnezzar the king of Babylon, my servant; and the beasts of the field have I given him also to serve him.
7 And all nations shall serve him, and his son, and his son's son, until the very time of his land come: and then many nations and great kings shall serve themselves of him.
8 And it shall come to pass, that the nation and kingdom which will not serve the same Nebuchadnezzar the king of Babylon, and that will not put their neck under the yoke of the king of Babylon, that nation will I punish, saith the Lord, with the sword, and with the famine, and with the pestilence, until I have consumed them by his hand.

Ezekiel 38:3KJV
3 And say, Thus saith the Lord God; Behold, I am against thee, O Gog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal:

Ezekiel 39:1KJV
1 Therefore, thou son of man, prophesy against Gog, and say, Thus saith the Lord God; Behold, I am against thee, O Gog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal:

King Nebuchadnezzar's Army Destroyed In Ezekiel Chapter 32 Seen Below

Ezekiel 32:26-28KJV
26 There is Meshech, Tubal, and all her multitude: her graves are round about him: all of them uncircumcised, slain by the sword, though they caused their terror in the land of the living.
27 And they shall not lie with the mighty that are fallen of the uncircumcised, which are gone down to hell with their weapons of war: and they have laid their swords under their heads, but their iniquities shall be upon their bones, though they were the terror of the mighty in the land of the living.
28 Yea, thou shalt be broken in the midst of the uncircumcised, and shalt lie with them that are slain with the sword.

Ezekiel 39:11KJV
11 And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will give unto Gog a place there of graves in Israel, the valley of the passengers on the east of the sea: and it shall stop the noses of the passengers: and there shall they bury Gog and all his multitude: and they shall call it The valley of Hamongog.

No, "future" is not all that is referred to by the battle of Gog and Magog.

"Gog" refers to the Mountain of God, or God. While "Magog" refers to "the land of Gog", meaning God's footstool or this world.

In other words, the battle is between God and this world. Which started when He began dividing the light from the darkness--it is the battle between light and darkness, or good and evil. Which occurs during all of times since the beginning.

Why then was it a part of what would seem to be prophecy of the future? --Because all truth and the finish of the mystery of God as He declared to His servants the prophets, was not promised to come until just before the end.

 

[tailgator]

IMO, it's equally irrational to conclude that anything pertaining to Ezekiel 38-39 is involving the same time period Revelation 20:7-9 is involving. The former is involving those that God is still hiding His face from until He executes His judgment on Gog and his multitude first. The latter is hardly involving anyone God is still hiding His face from until He executes His judgment on Gog and his multitude first. Why would God be hiding His face from the camp of the saints meant in Revelation 20:7-9? There is no logic to that. You can't have one account involving God hiding His face from someone, then the other account He isn't hiding His face from anyone, then insist they are involving the same events. Numerous times in Ezekiel 38-39 we are told God is still hiding His face from the house of Israel until He executes His judgment on Gog and his multitude.

False

God is not hiding his face from the resurected saints in Ezekiel 37,38,39.
He brings them up out of their graves as Ezekiel 37 says and he puts his spirit in them as the word of God says They are gathered into the land of Israel as the word of God says and there they live .

After God has done all this in Ezekiel 37 ,Gog comes against the resurected saints who have the spirit of God in them and fire and brimstone rains down on Gog and all the heathen who came against the resurected saints .


Why would you believe it is irrational for someone to believe the resurected saints who live in the land of Israel in Ezekiel 37-39 are the resurected saints who live in Israel in revelation 20?

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

False

God is not hiding his face from the resurected saints in Ezekiel 37,38,39.
He brings them up out of their graves as Ezekiel 37 says and he puts his spirit in them as the word of God says They are gathered into the land of Israel as the word of God says and there they live .

After God has done all this in Ezekiel 37 ,Gog comes against the resurected saints who have the spirit of God in them and fire and brimstone rains down on Gog and all the heathen who came against the resurected saints .


Why would you believe it is irrational for someone to believe the resurected saints who live in the land of Israel in Ezekiel 37-39 are the resurected saints who live in Israel in revelation 20?

Resurrected saints will have immortal bodies. How could anyone try to harm people with immortal bodies? That's nonsense. Scripture never teaches that anyone will be resurrected with a mortal body and then will roam around on the earth after that. Once the resurrection of the dead occurs, judgment will follow (Daniel 12:2, John 5:28-29).

 

[tailgator]

IMO, it's equally irrational to conclude that anything pertaining to Ezekiel 38-39 is involving the same time period Revelation 20:7-9 is involving. The former is involving those that God is still hiding His face from until He executes His judgment on Gog and his multitude first. The latter is hardly involving anyone God is still hiding His face from until He executes His judgment on Gog and his multitude first. Why would God be hiding His face from the camp of the saints meant in Revelation 20:7-9? There is no logic to that. You can't have one account involving God hiding His face from someone, then the other account He isn't hiding His face from anyone, then insist they are involving the same events. Numerous times in Ezekiel 38-39 we are told God is still hiding His face from the house of Israel until He executes His judgment on Gog and his multitude.

This is the only place where God says he hid his face from Israel and he is not talking about hiding his face from the resurected saints who have received his spirit in Ezekiel 37-39.



Ezekiel 39:23-28 is an overview of thousands of years leading up to Israels resurection in Ezekiel 37 and the resurected saints of Israel receiving the promised land for an everlasting possession in Ezekiel 37.


Ezekiel 39
23 And the heathen shall know that the house of Israel went into captivity for their iniquity: because they trespassed against me, therefore hid I my face from them, and gave them into the hand of their enemies: so fell they all by the sword.

24 According to their uncleanness and according to their transgressions have I done unto them, and hid my face from them.

25 Therefore thus saith the Lord God; Now will I bring again the captivity of Jacob, and have mercy upon the whole house of Israel, and will be jealous for my holy name;

26 After that they have borne their shame, and all their trespasses whereby they have trespassed against me, when they dwelt safely in their land, and none made them afraid.

27 When I have brought them again from the people, and gathered them out of their enemies' lands, and am sanctified in them in the sight of many nations;

28 Then shall they know that I am the Lord their God, which caused them to be led into captivity among the heathen: but I have gathered them unto their own land, and have left none of them any more there.

29 Neither will I hide my face any more from them: for I have poured out my spirit upon the house of Israel, saith the Lord God.

 

[tailgator]

Resurrected saints will have immortal bodies. How could anyone try to harm people with immortal bodies? That's nonsense. Scripture never teaches that anyone will be resurrected with a mortal body and then will roam around on the earth after that. Once the resurrection of the dead occurs, judgment will follow (Daniel 12:2, John 5:28-29).

Your the only one who says they are harmed.
I haven't nor has the word of God.

Where did I say the resurected saints are harmed?
Where did you come up with such nonsense?

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Your the only one who says they are harmed.
I haven't nor has the word of God.

Where did I say the resurected saints are harmed?
Where did you come up with such nonsense?

I didn't say they are actually harmed. You have a reading comprehension problem. You said "Gog comes against the resurected saints who have the spirit of God in them". What I'm asking is why would anyone even try to harm people who have immortal bodies, which resurrected saints will have after they are resurrected (1 Cor 15:51-52)? That would make no sense. If you are trying to say there will be resurrected saints with mortal bodies then you are coming up with something that scripture never teaches will happen.

 

[tailgator]

Resurrected saints will have immortal bodies. How could anyone try to harm people with immortal bodies? That's nonsense. Scripture never teaches that anyone will be resurrected with a mortal body and then will roam around on the earth after that. Once the resurrection of the dead occurs, judgment will follow (Daniel 12:2, John 5:28-29).

And yes.People coming up out of their graves is referring to the resurection.

Ezekiel 37
12 Therefore prophesy and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord God; Behold, O my people, I will open your graves, and cause you to come up out of your graves, and bring you into the land of Israel.

13 And ye shall know that I am the Lord, when I have opened your graves, O my people, and brought you up out of your graves,


Scripture does not say the resurected saints are ever harmed.Ezekiel wrote that they all dwell safely.

Where did you get this nonsense that they are harmed?

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

And yes.People coming up out of their graves is referring to the resurection.

Ezekiel 37
12 Therefore prophesy and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord God; Behold, O my people, I will open your graves, and cause you to come up out of your graves, and bring you into the land of Israel.

13 And ye shall know that I am the Lord, when I have opened your graves, O my people, and brought you up out of your graves,


Scripture does not say the resurected saints are ever harmed.Ezekiel wrote that they all dwell safely.

Where did you get this nonsense that they are harmed?

Why don't you read my response first before you respond again? Have some patience. Read my previous post. I didn't say they would be harmed. Read more carefully. Speed reading just makes you look bad. Take your time.