I'm a Christian and I support the legality of same-sex marriage

[Nancy]

I would prefer to leave this alone, but I don’t feel that I can in good conscience. Sometimes, God does deliver from homosexual desires and tendencies. Sometimes. So, it is possible.

I hear ya about being celibate. As a single, that is my only option, and it’s not an easy one. The world all around us tells us that sex outside of marriage is okay. I don’t see that in God’s Word, so if I went with what the world says, I would displease my Lord and lose my self-respect in the process. It’s not worth it to me!

Understood and yes indeed, sex outside of marriage is sinning against God! The bible is quite clear on that, as it is on homosexuality, lying, bearing false witness, adultery, fornication of all kinds, and so on. His grace is very sufficient for me as, I now believe i was called to celibacy and, it is not at all difficult. I remove myself far from temptation and He keeps temptation far from me. He took from me what i could not give up. It is so funny how the thing you think will be the toughest, turns out to be THE thing He delivers us from. God's just cool that way :)

 

[Prayer Warrior]

Understood and yes indeed, sex outside of marriage is sinning against God! The bible is quite clear on that, as it is on homosexuality, lying, bearing false witness, adultery, fornication of all kinds, and so on. His grace is very sufficient for me as, I now believe i was called to celibacy and, it is not at all difficult. I remove myself far from temptation and He keeps temptation far from me. He took from me what i could not give up. It is so funny how the thing you think will be the toughest, turns out to be THE thing He delivers us from. God's just cool that way :)

Thank you for sharing this, sister!

Having been married for years and now single after losing my husband, I can’t say that I like the celibacy thing at all. But I agree that His grace is sufficient!

 

[kcnalp]

If you're going to quote me quote all I say. Don't make it seem that I said something like I agreed with you.

Try reading it again Barney.

 

[Grailhunter]

So, I see you do not understand the difference between homosexuality and pedophilia. I could explain it to you but, then you would need to have logic to understand

I understand that many times they go together.
Something wrong in the head. To what degree that pushes them and which direction, has many paths.
The base desire for this is nasty....they are poking poop...and there is no up trend....it can just get worse.
What are married homosexuals going to teach their kids?
What are homosexual teachers and coaches going to do to our kids?

 

[Ronald Nolette]

By that standard, you are guilty of supporting others of worshipping false Gods by virtue of you not trying to outlaw all other religions.

There's a difference between "supporting" another's belief and allowing them to do their own thing.

but the church is not called to end all false religions, but to call out a harvest from those false religions. If we have th eopening we also should explain why a false religion is false.

I do not go after homosexuals. I know many people that I have "good" relation with that are gay.

But to support gay marriage is to support known open sin. To allow the world to live its life is different. Let me ask you, would you support 2 people who call themself Christian and are gay to get married?

I also cannot openly support people committing murder either. Both are sin in Gods eyues.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

I follow Jesus too. Why should I "hate" Heaven? Is it because that, like God, I too am willing to let my fellow man retain his own free will? Should we be raiding nightclubs and keeping the attendees captive for the night in order to prevent them from sinning through drunkenness and pre-marital sex?

Well now you are conflating being against gay marriage to actively stopping them. That is not what we are called to do! I do not support legalizing gay marriage for as it says in Proverbs that sin is a reproach to any nation!

And you are incoorect in saying that the unsaved have free will. They are all ensalved to sin, even if they appear to act "good". As it is written in Romans, that those in the flesh (human nature) cannot please god". an unsaved person can do nothing to please God for they have no spiritual nature. As Paul said in Ephesians they are dead in their trespasses and sins.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

On the contrary, I am simply permitting others to be able to exercise their God-given, free will. I believe it is you who is rebelling against God's wishes by denying another their free will.

God never sanctions sin! He doesn't sanction adultery, pre-marital sex, bigamy, polygamy. pedophilia, rape, bestiality or any sexual activity outside of teh biblically defined marriage- one man and one woman!

 

[ChristisGod]

God never sanctions sin! He doesn't sanction adultery, pre-marital sex, bigamy, polygamy. pedophilia, rape, bestiality or any sexual activity outside of teh biblically defined marriage- one man and one woman!

Amen !

 

[K9Buck]

Hi K9Buck,

I agree with you that government should not be in the marriage business. It started out as a religious “contract” with/under God thru The Church and it should have stayed that way!! My question for you is if you had the chance to vote to legalize/recognize same sex marriage in your State; would have you voted for it or against it?

Isn’t Christianity a theocracy? :cool:

Mary

My first vote would be to remove government from the marriage business. Yes, I would vote to legalize same-sex marriage.

Should we Christians force non-Christians to bend to our will? Should we outlaw mosques? What's worse, engaging in homosexuality or worshipping another God?

 

[ChristisGod]

My first vote would be to remove government from the marriage business. Yes, I would vote to legalize same-sex marriage.

Should we Christians force non-Christians to bend to our will? Should we outlaw mosques? What's worse, engaging in homosexuality or worshipping another God?

Its a direct attack on Gods institution of marriage and family. You break that down and so goes a nation.

 

[K9Buck]

Its a direct attack on Gods institution of marriage and family. You break that down and so goes a nation.

On June 26, 2015, the U.S. Supreme Court struck down all state bans on same-sex marriage, legalized it in all fifty states, and required states to honor out-of-state same-sex marriage licenses in the case Obergefell v. Hodges.

Same-sex marriage in the United States - Wikipedia

 

[K9Buck]

I must admit reading this thread has been quite an eye opening with regards to the USA and what it thinks about the laws and how it should be universally Christian - I don’t think the OP or any comments that he has made confirm that he agrees with same sex marriage on a personal level.( unless I have misunderstood )

Very well said, Rita. In my experience, the two most totalitarian segments of society tend to be the political left and the religious right. Both tend to demand conformity to their belief system.

 

[K9Buck]

The sin of homosexuality is a common thread between the OT and NT.

Yea, it is so "common" that Jesus never once mentioned it.

 

[K9Buck]

So you are denying what Paul said , interesting. Do you honestly believe that habitual sin cannot be dealt with by the Lord, or are you just taking that one thing out of a list of other habitual sins ? Rita

I happen to think there may be two types of people that engage in homosexual behavior. I think there are people who are pretty much born to be homosexual. Growing up, there were two boys in my class that were OBVIOUSLY gay. I'm pretty sure they didn't choose to be that way.

And then there are some who, due to perversion, choose to engage in homosexual behavior.

 

[ChristisGod]

On June 26, 2015, the U.S. Supreme Court struck down all state bans on same-sex marriage, legalized it in all fifty states, and required states to honor out-of-state same-sex marriage licenses in the case Obergefell v. Hodges.

Same-sex marriage in the United States - Wikipedia

Yes its telling God we don't need you and to get out of our nations business.

Next it will be legal for pedophiles and those who practice bestiality to indulge in their DISGRACEFUL and ABOMINABLE behavior.

 

[ChristisGod]

I happen to think there may be two types of people that engage in homosexual behavior. I think there are people who are pretty much born to be homosexual. Growing up, there were two boys in my class that were OBVIOUSLY gay. I'm pretty sure they didn't choose to be that way.

And then there are some who, due to perversion, choose to engage in homosexual behavior.

a person is no more born gay than a person born as murderer, pedophile or any other sin.

next.............

 

[K9Buck]

Isn’t Christianity a theocracy? :cool: Mary

Yes, but does that mean that we Christians are supposed to force non-believers to conform to our belief system? Should we, through the force of government, outlaw same-sex marriage, outlaw practicing in other religions, criminalize pre-marital sex, etc., etc., etc.?

 

[K9Buck]

I don't see anyone saying that homosexuality is the unforgivable sin. I don't see anyone saying that it's the worst sin someone can commit. Of course, homosexuals can repent. I hope and pray that they will all see the truth and repent! I believe that it's an extremely powerful stronghold of the enemy, though, and it seems to hold onto its victim, but they can be set free!

This issue is very personal to me. My brother turned to that lifestyle and died of AIDS. I believe that our homosexual uncle had molested my brother when he was a child, and that this contributed, if not caused, my brother to desire sex with other men. After my brother died, my uncle killed himself. It's tragic, and I don't wish this stronghold on anyone!

Wow, that's a horrible story.

 

[K9Buck]

...would you support 2 people who call themself Christian and are gay to get married?

I wouldn't necessarily "support" it, nor would I attempt to use government to stop them from doing so.

If Christians want to use government to prevent sinful behavior, why stop at homosexuality?

 

[K9Buck]

I also cannot openly support people committing murder either. Both are sin in Gods eyues.

Murder, bestiality, abortion, pedophilia, etc., are different than homosexuality in that they involve the victimization of an involuntary, innocent person. Not analogous.