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mjrhealth

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But again, if no concrete guidance is given to true seekers, it just across more like just an attack for an attack's sake.
Jesus is simple but forgiveness without paying for it it far to simple and controversial, for many, they would rather pay Him back. They believe what they want to believe, we sow He reaps. if they choose not to listen you cannot force them, He gave men free will, and that is what love does, God gave us free will, wont interfere unless men ask, look at what we got. Thats what love does.
 

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So....... your answer is to..... wait? Wait. What?

It is one thing to tell the church of her errors, if it is done in love and concern. ☺️
But again, if no concrete guidance is given to true seekers, it just across more like just an attack for an attack's sake.
Are you going to run a head of Him than demand He follow you, is the servant above His master??
 

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John 8:24.



No; that is an ancient heresy called adoptionism.
Oh you mean like this bit

Rom_8:15 For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.

Just like He did.
 

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That an infinite God is capable of dying for many while a finite person is not is simple common sense; and very sensible.
You really dont Get it, it is God that holds all this together If God died we would not exist. And pray tell me how does God separate God from God, how does God deny God, how is God separated from the spirit of God,, I wait to see your made up explanation.
 

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Oh you mean like this bit

Rom_8:15 For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.

Just like He did.

Jhn 14:19, Yet a little while, and the world seeth me no more; but ye see me: because I live, ye shall live also.
Jhn 14:20, At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you.


You really dont Get it, it is God that holds all this together If God died we would not exist.

I have explained how this can be.

When God descended to become a Man, He continued to dwell in eternity because if anyone dwells in eternity they are there eternally; if anyone dwells in eternity they are there for ever.

Consider it as a dimensional shift that He also exists as a finite human being and was able to die as a human being; while His "former self" remained in eternity so that He could continue to hold everything together.

And pray tell me how does God separate God from God, how does God deny God, how is God separated from the spirit of God,, I wait to see your made up explanation.

No made up explanation; I would only point you to Luke 1:37.
 
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Like I said show me where it says that you have to believe Jesus is God, we are supposed to believe in Jesus the son of man who paid the price as a man, God could never do what Christ did, who is the first born of many sons, the new creation, The spirit of God in man, you know that bit where the Holy Spirit descended on Him like a dove, and that was when he became the son of God, there fore He could not be God, because God never changes, He therefore cannot be the first born of many sons or the first of the new creation.

I'm not going to debate hypotheticals with you, I see you are stating you are not of the faith and I am making note of it.
He who denies the son is an antichrist. Period.
 

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Jhn 14:19, Yet a little while, and the world seeth me no more; but ye see me: because I live, ye shall live also.
Jhn 14:20, At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you.

No made up explanation; I would only point you to Luke 1:37.

Yes the father in Him God in God is that what you are saying, as for Luke what has that to do with God denying God as you are claiming He did. Denied Himself, oh and He changed He became the new creation. ..
 

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I'm not going to debate hypotheticals with you, I see you are stating you are not of the faith and I am making note of it.
He who denies the son is an antichrist. Period.
Where did I ever deny the son, in fact if you read my posts I mention Him more than anyone on this forum, and saying people are antichrist, mods dont like that so expect a response from them. I know I did it once, I dont even need to tell them. No you too put God in your box and He is locked up.
 

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Where did I ever deny the son, in fact if you read my posts I mention Him more than anyone on this forum, and saying people are antichrist, mods dont like that so expect a response from them. I know I did it once, I dont even need to tell them. No you too put God in your box and He is locked up.

You deny that the son is 100% God and was there in the beginning with the father. Denying his deity is antichrist.
 

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You deny that the son is 100% God and was there in the beginning with the father. Denying his deity is antichrist.
He isnt he was the son of man, He dies a man because only a man could do what He did than the son of God, I have never denied Christ, now you have to answer to Him, its a good thing He is gracious and forgiving, it was by one man Adam sin came into the world, and one man Jesus that is was removed. Take it up wit h god if you dont like it
 

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@mjrhealth,

You are going to have to answer to Him after you have died in your sins because of your rejection of the doctrine of Christ's Deity.

What kind of answer will you be able to give Him if you are still in your sins?
 
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You are going to have to answer to Him after you have died in your sins because of your rejection of the doctrine of Christ's Deity.

What kind of answer will you be able to give Him if you are still in your sins?
You are playing the devil right now will you continue to do so, does the truth make you afraid are you wanting to Kill me cause I cannot agree with you is that what you do.. all you have to do is have Ears to Hear Jesus cannot help it if you will put the bible before Him... just like the Israelites when Moses delayed so the built there Golden Calf, you have you bible are you not going to wait to hear his Voice, But now I must leave you to your own demise you are going places that im not allowed to go, lyou are condeming yourself.

Bye
 

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@mjrhealth,

your idol is the god that you have created in your own image that does not conform to what the Bible says about who God has revealed Himself to be.

You have created an idol for yourself based on your own idea rather than what God has given in His revelation to mankind about who He is.

You want to say Bye that is fine with me...it just goes to show that what you said about me earlier stands true of you.
 
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You want to say Bye that is fine with me...it just goes to show that what you said about me earlier stands true of you.
One last question, how is a man saved without all your additions, and as far as what you think of me that is between you and Jesus, none of my business.
 

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The antichrist spirit is not only a Hitler-like personality...it has to do with denying the sound doctrine that Jesus Christ (God) has come in the flesh.