If this is all christianty has

[amadeus]

@mjrhealth @Nancy @justbyfaith @Truman Ron Coates @Ronald Nolette @Billy Evmur @FollowHim @Stumpmaster @BarnyFife @Christophany @Prayer Warrior @Gideons300 What I see in the Bible is the dead body of Jesus as it was when it was hanging on the cross. He had died. There was no Life in that body. That is the Bible when it is on a shelf unopened and unread. Then a man opens the Bible and begins to read. What does he understand? Like the Ethiopian eunuch reading from the Book of Isaiah he knows the words for it is written in a language he understands, but he cannot understand the message without help. He said he needed the help some man, but not just any man could help him.

God sent Philip, Philip a man filled with the Holy Ghost, who was able to interpret what was written so that the hungry eunuch could understand it.

"But if there be no interpreter, let him keep silence in the church; and let him speak to himself, and to God." I Cor 14:28

The "church" is the people of God, the ones who are hungry and thirsty for the righteousness of God as per Matthew 5:6

But the church is the woman [including both physical men and women] sitting in silence while the man [whoever God has called, being it a physical man or woman], that is the man of God speaks interpreting what is written. Without a interpreter we need to remain silent. The interpreter for the followers of Jesus was Jesus himself, but he did not interpret the parables for everybody, did he?

Our interpreter is the Holy Spirit. It is by the Holy Spirit leading a person or in a person that the person may understand God's message within what is written in the scriptures, the Bible, the dead body on the cross. Indeed, Jesus did not remain dead on the cross. He resurrected! He came back from the dead.

The Ethiopian eunuch was dead to God, but he wanted Life. So God hearing the man's need sent Philip to him to open up, bring to Life, what was written on that scroll of Isaiah.

"[God] Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life." II Cor 3:6

 

[justbyfaith]

Yeah, I get that a lot. But I've yet to see an explanation from the Bible as to How God multiplies Himself within Himself. Not that I'm saying He couldn't do it, but I don't see any indication of it in Scripture. It's a half-clever way to try to reconcile the Almighty with the constraints of human logic, but that's about all.

God is one, the Father. He multiplied Himself by one in descending into time and taking on an added human nature. That still equals one. Then He multiplied Himself again by one when He released His Spirit back the the Father. Still only one God.

 

[BarneyFife]

God is one, the Father. He multiplied Himself by one in descending into time and taking on an added human nature. That still equals one. Then He multiplied Himself again by one when He released His Spirit back the the Father. Still only one God.

From Scripture, please?

 

[justbyfaith]

From Scripture, please?

John 1:14, Luke 23:46.

 

[BarneyFife]

John 1:14, Luke 23:46.

I don't see a thing about multiplication.

 

[BarneyFife]

John 1:14, Luke 23:46.

Luke 23:46 looks more like division than multiplication to me. It's just nonsense, the multiplication thing.

 

[BarneyFife]

John 1:14, Luke 23:46.

It was not the Holy Spirit that went back to God. It was Christ's breath. Which is not, itself, the Holy Spirit.

 

[justbyfaith]

Luke 23:46 looks more like division than multiplication to me. It's just nonsense, the multiplication thing.

So...1 x 1 / 1 also = 1.

 

[justbyfaith]

It was not the Holy Spirit that went back to God. It was Christ's breath. Which is not, itself, the Holy Spirit.

I disagree with you.

The very Spirit of Christ (the Father, John 4:23-24, John 14:7-11) was released back into eternity to exist side-by-side with the Father when Jesus died.

 

[BarneyFife]

So...1 x 1 / 1 also = 1.

You can't have it both ways. Either it's multiplication or division. How do you know it's not 1 / 1 x 1? I'm telling you, it's a rabbit hole.

I disagree with you.

The very Spirit of Christ (the Father, John 4:23-24, John 14:7-11) was released back into eternity to exist side-by-side with the Father when Jesus died.

All things were created by Christ. He breathed into man's nostrils and man became a living soul. Did Adam thus receive the Holy Spirit? The Greek says that the spirit Christ returned to the father was His breath. What does Christ breath now?

 

[mjrhealth]

That can't be right can it. Most've the church are now sleeping in the Lord ... how they gunna make themselves ready? If Jesus had an 100 billion sheep and 1 went astray He would go find that sheeps and bring him home rejoicing, of all the disciples whom the Father gave to Him has never lost one. His sheeps are His property. nobody can snatch them out of His hand.

well you see they would have to want to be found, but i have noticed some love there religion and their own path to Him, not His doing but their choice, God will no stand against someones free will, doesnt mean they wont be saved, they just choose teh lesser path, and will miss out on the good things of God.

 

[mjrhealth]

The bible has power because it covers 2,000 years of testimony, in many peoples lives and cultures.
It is stunning in its depth and breadth, which encapsulates the heart of God and His leading.

It has no power, not one bit. You juts need it to, so taht you think if you quote it people must listen to you, all men need it God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit, but they have being made last and not first, men prefer their Idol to those that are true and agree. You chose your path you must walk it alone, if its not His way it is your way,

 

[BarneyFife]

It has no power, not one bit.

This sounds like nonconformity for nonconformity's sake.

So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it. (Isaiah 55:11)

For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart. (Hebrews 4:12)

2 Timothy 3
16All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: 17That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.

But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God. (Matthew 4:4)

If the word of God has no power--not one bit, what do these things mean?

 

[Truman]

Psalm 133...the Lord says, "I am watching and I am pleased!"

 

[Ronald Nolette]

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@mjrhealth @Nancy @justbyfaith @Truman Ron Coates @Ronald Nolette @Billy Evmur @FollowHim @Stumpmaster @BarnyFife @Christophany @Prayer Warrior @Gideons300 What I see in the Bible is the dead body of Jesus as it was when it was hanging on the cross. He had died. There was no Life in that body. That is the Bible when it is on a shelf unopened and unread. Then a man opens the Bible and begins to read. What does he understand? Like the Ethiopian eunuch reading from the Book of Isaiah he knows the words for it is written in a language he understands, but he cannot understand the message without help. He said he needed the help some man, but not just any man could help him.

God sent Philip, Philip a man filled with the Holy Ghost, who was able to interpret what was written so that the hungry eunuch could understand it.

"But if there be no interpreter, let him keep silence in the church; and let him speak to himself, and to God." I Cor 14:28

The "church" is the people of God, the ones who are hungry and thirsty for the righteousness of God as per Matthew 5:6

But the church is the woman [including both physical men and women] sitting in silence while the man [whoever God has called, being it a physical man or woman], that is the man of God speaks interpreting what is written. Without a interpreter we need to remain silent. The interpreter for the followers of Jesus was Jesus himself, but he did not interpret the parables for everybody, did he?

Our interpreter is the Holy Spirit. It is by the Holy Spirit leading a person or in a person that the person may understand God's message within what is written in the scriptures, the Bible, the dead body on the cross. Indeed, Jesus did not remain dead on the cross. He resurrected! He came back from the dead.

The Ethiopian eunuch was dead to God, but he wanted Life. So God hearing the man's need sent Philip to him to open up, bring to Life, what was written on that scroll of Isaiah.

"[God] Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life." II Cor 3:6

And what are you trying to say by this rambling epistle?

 

[Ronald Nolette]

God is one, the Father. He multiplied Himself by one in descending into time and taking on an added human nature. That still equals one. Then He multiplied Himself again by one when He released His Spirit back the the Father. Still only one God.

Except that multiplication or division has been from eternity past!

1 X1 X 1 = 1 Three equalling one from all eternity
1/ 1/ 1 = 1 From all eternity past.

Jesus was with god before anything existed. same with the Spirit! and they were all god

 

[amadeus]

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And what are you trying to say by this rambling epistle?

The written scripture is the body, the dead body, of Christ.
Jesus brought us Life so it might be quickened in us by the Life given Spirit.
Then as He arose from the dead, so might we also rise from the dead!

 

[Stumpmaster]

The written scripture is the body, the dead body, of Christ.

I don't think so, amadeus, unless I'm reading this passage all wrong.
Heb 4:12-13 For the word of God is living and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing even to the division of soul and spirit, and of joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart. (13) And there is no creature hidden from His sight, but all things are naked and open to the eyes of Him to whom we must give account.

No, I've got it right, and I'm good with this passage also. God's Word is alive.

1Pe 1:22-25 Since you have purified your souls in obeying the truth through the Spirit in sincere love of the brethren, love one another fervently with a pure heart, (23) having been born again, not of corruptible seed but incorruptible, through the word of God which lives and abides forever, (24) because "ALL FLESH IS AS GRASS, AND ALL THE GLORY OF MAN AS THE FLOWER OF THE GRASS. THE GRASS WITHERS, AND ITS FLOWER FALLS AWAY, (25) BUT THE WORD OF THE LORD ENDURES FOREVER." Now this is the word which by the gospel was preached to you.

 

[amadeus]

I don't think so, amadeus, unless I'm reading this passage all wrong.
Heb 4:12-13 For the word of God is living and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing even to the division of soul and spirit, and of joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart. (13) And there is no creature hidden from His sight, but all things are naked and open to the eyes of Him to whom we must give account.

No, I've got it right, and I'm good with this passage also. God's Word is alive.

1Pe 1:22-25 Since you have purified your souls in obeying the truth through the Spirit in sincere love of the brethren, love one another fervently with a pure heart, (23) having been born again, not of corruptible seed but incorruptible, through the word of God which lives and abides forever, (24) because "ALL FLESH IS AS GRASS, AND ALL THE GLORY OF MAN AS THE FLOWER OF THE GRASS. THE GRASS WITHERS, AND ITS FLOWER FALLS AWAY, (25) BUT THE WORD OF THE LORD ENDURES FOREVER." Now this is the word which by the gospel was preached to you.

Certainly the Word of God is alive, but the unread Bible on a shelf is Not the Word of God. It has the potential that the dead body of Jesus had. The potential went to kinetic when it came to Life again, it resurrected.

That is the way every man born to woman is. He is dead until and if he is resurrected.

"The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly." John 10:10

 

[Gideons300]

Its no wonder so few wil be at His wedding, and He has to send the workers to the hi ways and bi ways, because "christianity"has lost its first love, and now I can too understand why He said, when I come will I find faith upon the earth, bit like looking for a needle in the Mariana Trench.

Mat 11:16 But whereunto shall I liken this generation? It is like unto children sitting in the markets, and calling unto their fellows,
Mat 11:17 And saying, We have piped unto you, and ye have not danced; we have mourned unto you, and ye have not lamented.

Luk 13:24 Strive to enter in at the strait gate: for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able.
Luk 13:25 When once the master of the house is risen up, and hath shut to the door, and ye begin to stand without, and to knock at the door, saying, Lord, Lord, open unto us; and he shall answer and say unto you, I know you not whence ye are:
Luk 13:26 Then shall ye begin to say, We have eaten and drunk in thy presence, and thou hast taught in our streets.
Luk 13:27 But he shall say, I tell you, I know you not whence ye are; depart from me, all ye workers of iniquity.

so many wide ways...

May I ask you in all seriousness what you suggest we do if we are where you say we are? How do you see it as to what needs to be done?

Thanks,

Gideon