I have difficulty believing that souls will be damned to the Lake of Fire

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amigo de christo

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You can see the difference from those who follow God and those who follow and under bondage to the deceiver..
The fruit of the wicked is to sin .
Those who justify their sin
those who are co helpers with them by not exposing the sin
those who defend even the pratice of said sin
THEY ALL in deadly dire danger and in heavy bondage .
For so many years the judge not correct not led to no correction
and leaven grew worse . Sins , certain ones even became accepted , glorified , called good .
And now many are even embracing the ultimate LIE of the LIAR .
As they praise the god of love who has glorified UNBELIEF IN JESUS under the banner of a false love .
OH YEAH ITS GETTING WORSE and very fast too .
 
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You can see the difference from those who follow God and those who follow and under bondage to the deceiver..
would you like to read an example of hate which a massive number in even christendom
NOW follow and beleive is love and loving to ALLOW ...........................
YE shall not HATE your neighbor in your heart , you shall in ANY way correct him and NOT ALLOW sin upon him .
THE JUDGE NOT CORRECT NOTS leave the peoples drowing in sin
and anytime a dear fellow of the LORD with a bible in his hand cometh to Love and not hate
FOR HE corrects those in error , he exposes sins , WELL THEY CALL HIM the hater .
People , oh people , they really have no idea that SATAN himself can say GOD is LOVE
and yet hims twisting things BIG TIME .
 
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The fruit of the wicked is to sin .
Those who justify their sin
those who are co helpers with them by not exposing the sin
those who defend even the pratice of said sin
THEY ALL in deadly dire danger and in heavy bondage .
For so many years the judge not correct not led to no correction
and leaven grew worse . Sins , certain ones even became accepted , glorified , called good .
And now many are even embracing the ultimate LIE of the LIAR .
As they praise the god of love who has glorified UNBELIEF IN JESUS under the banner of a false love .
OH YEAH ITS GETTING WORSE and very fast too .
We are seeing the hearts wax cold as even those who profess to be Christians are falling into the addiction of sin and bondage of iniquity. The corruption is in all sectors of society from the top on down..
 
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We are seeing the hearts wax cold as even those who profess to be Christians are falling into the addiction of sin and bondage of iniquity. The corruption is in all sectors of society from the top on down..
We are seeing that big time .
And yet if one tries to correct the sin its JUDGE NOT CORRECT NOT .
what did we expect was gonna happen .
You let leaven remain and its GONNA TAKE OVER the HOUSE .
 
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Rather odd that many seem to have a difficulty believing things GOD said .
I say JUST BELIEVE ALL that is written .
What i find so hard to fathom is why so many cliam to BELEIVE IN CHRIST and yet sure seem TO NOT BELIEVE
HIS WORDS . Gotta say IF ITS WRITTEN , BELEIVE IT . that simple .
 
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Rather odd that many seem to have a difficulty believing things GOD said .
I say JUST BELIEVE ALL that is written .
What i find so hard to fathom is why so many cliam to BELEIVE IN CHRIST and yet sure seem TO NOT BELIEVE
HIS WORDS . Gotta say IF ITS WRITTEN , BELEIVE IT . that simple .
Its that some parts of the Bible are hard to understand, look at the visions that Daniel had, some was explained by his angel but other parts was too much for him.
 

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I'm confident that even Hitler, Stalin, and Mao loved someone. Based on the verse below, is it possible that they are not and will not be destroyed?​

1 John 4:7 ESV​

Beloved, let us love one another, for love is from God, and whoever loves has been born of God and knows God.

I'm confident that even Hitler, Stalin, and Mao loved someone. Based on the verse below, is it possible that they are not and will not be destroyed?​

1 John 4:7 ESV​

Beloved, let us love one another, for love is from God, and whoever loves has been born of God and knows God.
Mao said that Jesus is A great revolutionary.he must have been read the Bible.
 

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That's a common misconception. A look at the Greek helps.

The definition of "confess" (acknowledge) sheds some light on this.
Openly, whole-heartedly, without reservation...
But it has to be done willingly out of a contrite heart…..without genuine repentance there can be no forgiveness, therefore those who do not willingly repent of their own free will, cannot expect to be saved…..they cannot be coerced into it, or it doesn’t count.…..where does that leave Universalism?
Philippians 2:10-11
that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow,
in heaven and on earth and under the earth,
11 and every tongue acknowledge that Jesus Christ is Lord,
to the glory of God the Father.
All things take place according to God’s will (which, as a “holy servant” of his God, Jesus went to great pains to emphasize that all he did was the will of his Father)….therefore all the glory goes to his God….not to himself. (John 5:30; Acts 4:27)
Note on "acknowledge" in Philippians 2:11 from Strong's Concordance
S1843 eksomologéō (from 1537 /ek, "wholly out from," intensifying 3670 /homologéō, "say the same thing about") – properly, fully agree and to acknowledge that agreement openly (whole-heartedly); hence, to confess ("openly declare"), without reservation (no holding back).
So, “holding back” untill one is forced to recognize something that was right in front of their nose all along, is not what this word is emphasizing….is it? There is no coercion. The truth stands alone and is accepted for what the reader discerns from God’s word….but he cannot be alone in his thinking nor does belonging to a local church count for anything either…..Christianity is a global religion and so all must be on the same page, firmly grounded and in agreement with the entirety of God’s word. (1 Cor 1:10)
 

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I'm confident that even Hitler, Stalin, and Mao loved someone. Based on the verse below, is it possible that they are not and will not be destroyed?​

1 John 4:7 ESV​

Beloved, let us love one another, for love is from God, and whoever loves has been born of God and knows God.
Might as well add Sadam Hussein to your list, but they all were filled with hate as notice how many they killed for no good reason. And not just one or two, but millions. That is a heart full of hate, not love for their fellowman.
 

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I have difficulty believing that souls will be damned to the Lake of Fire​


Why?
All souls belong to God.
The Life IN All souls belongs to God.
The Life of an unsaved soul returns to God…
And the Life-Less soul destroyed by Fire.

Damnation (for humans) is forever Lifeless Separation from God.
God has no purpose for lifeless souls.
They shall become made lifeless, destroyed, forgotten.

(FYI- same applies to lifeless mortally dead body’s that are not made immortal).

Glory to God,
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I have difficulty believing that souls will be damned to the Lake of Fire​


Why?
All souls belong to God.
The Life IN All souls belongs to God.
The Life of an unsaved soul returns to God…
And the Life-Less soul destroyed by Fire.

Damnation (for humans) is forever Lifeless Separation from God.
God has no purpose for lifeless souls.
They shall become made lifeless, destroyed, forgotten.

(FYI- same applies to lifeless mortally dead body’s that are not made immortal).

Glory to God,
Taken
If they dont know or arent clear on what they are doing, God may wink..

Numbers 15:28
And the priest shall make an atonement for the soul that sinneth ignorantly, when he sinneth by ignorance before the Lord, to make an atonement for him; and it shall be forgiven him.

Acts 17:30
And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent:

But if you sin knowingly, you will perish..
Hebrews 10:26
26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
27 But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.

Ezekiel 18:20
The soul that sinneth, it shall die.
 

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If they dont know or arent clear on what they are doing, God may wink..

Numbers 15:28
And the priest shall make an atonement for the soul that sinneth ignorantly, when he sinneth by ignorance before the Lord, to make an atonement for him; and it shall be forgiven him.

Acts 17:30
And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent:

But if you sin knowingly, you will perish..
Hebrews 10:26
26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
27 But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.

Ezekiel 18:20
The soul that sinneth, it shall die.
What say you IS sin?
 

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But if you sin knowingly, you will perish..

Are you saying that all the sin you have confessed since you were saved, was an accident, and you didnt know you were doing it because you chose to do it?

Then why did you confess it?

So, in that case, unless all your sin was an accident since you were saved. then you just stated that you are going to "Perish"., and that means you end up in Hell.
 

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"In my view, the 'lake of fire and sulfur' (Revelation 20:10) represents a baptism of fire—not necessarily torment, but a purification of sin. Yet I'm uncertain whether this fire consumes sinners into nothingness or refines them. Let me share my personal experience: For years, I struggled with fleshly weaknesses—a persistent, restless sin within me. It wasn't about avoiding outward wrongdoing; the corruption felt innate. But when Christ's love overwhelmed me, His fiery baptism burned away that inner darkness. I physically sensed black smoke leaving my body, followed by profound relief. In this love, I felt zero fear or torment—only liberation. If such grace transformed me, it can transform anyone.

Yet I hesitate to share this, fearing people might dismiss Scripture's warnings as mere scare tactics. Does my experience negate the 'fear of the Lord' (Proverbs 9:10)? Honestly, in His love, I no longer feel the dread I once did while reading passages about judgment. I question if this is spiritually valid—but the reality is undeniable."

Theological Reflection: Fire as Purification
Scripture describes God as "a consuming fire" (Hebrews 12:29) who both judges and refines. Malachi 3:2–3 likens Him to a refiner's fire burning away dross, not annihilating the metal. My experience echoes sanctification—the Spirit's work to purge sin's grip (1 Corinthians 3:13–15).

Love vs. Fear
"Perfect love drives out fear" (1 John 4:18). What you describe aligns with liberation from slavery to sin (Romans 6:6–7), not dismissal of God's holiness. Yet "fear of the Lord" in Scripture refers to reverent awe, not terror (Psalm 130:4). Balance is key: Grace doesn't negate justice but fulfills it (Romans 3:25–26).

Eternal Implications
The lake of fire's nature remains mysterious. Universalists argue for "restorative fire" (Origen's apokatastasis), while traditionalists see eternal separation. Regardless, your testimony highlights Christ's present power to save, not just future judgment.

Sharing with Wisdom
Emphasize both realities: "God is love" (1 John 4:8) and "It is a dreadful thing to fall into the hands of the living God" (Hebrews 10:31). The story isn't a license for presumption but proof that "His kindness leads to repentance" (Romans 2:4).

Conclusion:
Let it deepen humility, not diminish reverence. As Bonhoeffer warned, "Cheap grace is grace without discipleship." True love compels holiness (2 Corinthians 5:14–15). Walk in that tension.

I see your story fitting into a much bigger picture.

What you're describing matches what many mystics throughout Christian history have reported - that moment when God's love becomes not just an idea but a felt reality. People like Julian of Norwich and Teresa of Avila wrote about similar experiences.

The "black smoke" leaving your body reminds me of how our brains and bodies physically respond to spiritual healing. When trauma and sin patterns are released, people often describe physical sensations that accompany the emotional and spiritual freedom. This isn't strange at all - we're whole beings, not just disembodied souls!

About the fear question - there's a natural progression in our walk with God. Early on, many of us are motivated by "fire insurance" (avoiding punishment). But as we mature, love becomes the primary motivation. Think of it like a child who first obeys a parent from fear of consequences, but eventually obeys from love and trust.

You're right to hold both truths at once - God's judgment is real, but so is His transforming love. History shows that the church swings between these emphases - sometimes focusing too much on hellfire, other times on cheap grace. The healthiest faith embraces both.

Your experience doesn't invalidate Scripture's warnings - it fulfills them! The purpose of warning is to lead us to exactly where you are - surrendered to love, transformed by grace.

Thanks for sharing something so personal. Your story might help others who feel trapped in that same inner corruption to find hope in Christ's refining fire.
 
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