I am excited....

[BreadOfLife]

Papist Dead Bread, why attempt to hide what catholicism claims as the "special" intercession of Mary? The intercession of "Mary" (Satan incognito) is far more significant to catholics than that of the ordinary "saints" (which Biblically refers to ALL who've given their heart to God). The "saints" offer merit to reduce time in "Purgatory" (where Christians must pay the consequences for their sin because Jesus didn't), assistance with finances, finding car keys, etc.

But the role of "Mary" is so much more.

She has been elevated to the level of "Mediator", "Advocate", and "Co-Redeemer" by virtue of the ludicrous, ridiculous "ex-cathedra" claim of pope Pius IX in the 19th century declaring Mary "Immaculate", so that we no longer have the Three Persons of the Godhead, but a "Holy Quartet".

"Prophetess Of These Last Times, The Immaculate Conception, Mother Of The Church, Mary As The New Eve, Queen Of Heaven and Earth/Queen of Peace, The Assumption, Queen of the Holy Rosary, Queen and Mother of Families, Mary as Co-Redemptrix, Mediatrix, Advocate, Our Lady of all Nations, Ark of the New Covenant, Mother of the Second Advent." -- Flynn, Thunder of Justice: The Warning, the Miracle, the Chastisement, the Era of Peace (MaxKol Communications, 1992).​

“The Church’s devotion to the Blessed Virgin is intrinsic to Christian worship.” The Church rightly honors “the Blessed Virgin with special devotion. From the most ancient times the Blessed Virgin has been honored with the title of ‘Mother of God,’ to whose protection the faithful fly in all their dangers and needs.” -- "Devotion to the Blessed Virgin,” Catechism of the Catholic Church (Vatican City: Liguori Publications, 1994): 253.​

"But while in the most Blessed Virgin the Church has already reached that perfection whereby she exists without spot or wrinkle, the faithful still strive to conquer sin and increase in holiness. And so they turn their eyes to Mary: in her, the Church is already the “all-holy. -- “The Church is Holy,” Catechism of the Catholic Church (Vatican City: Liguori Publications, 1994): 220.

"As they listen to the word proclaimed in the Sunday assembly, the faithful look to the Virgin Mary...From Sunday to Sunday, the pilgrim people follow in the footsteps of Mary, and her maternal intercession gives special power and fervour to the prayer which rises from the Church to the Most Holy Trinity." -- John Paul II, Dies Domini (July 5, 1998).​

Perhaps the most disgusting representation of "Mary" is found here:

"The sinner that ventures directly to Christ may come with dread and apprehension of his wrath; but let him only employ the mediation of the Virgin with her Son and she has only to show that Son the breasts that gave Him suck and His wrath will immediately be appeased." -- Catholic Layman, July 1856

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Paganism's "savior" is known as the "wrath subdoer", which is exactly the attribute given to Mary - another testimony to the true roots of catholicism. Here, we see a vile image of a supposed child Jesus with a grown man's face sucking Mary's breast.

Before Playboy, Penthouse, and Hustler magazine, there was this:

More evidence that the roots of catholicism are not traced to 1st century Palestine, but to the ancient pagan, sexually lascivious, sex cult religions of the Sun god.

As idiotic and stupid – and erroneous your post was – why did you NOT take me up on my challenge?? Instead of PROVING your claim that I “misrepresented” or “denied” Catholic teaching – you simply regurgitated the usual anti-Catholic manure that you ALWAYS do.

You had a PERFECT chance to have me leave this form – and you didn’t take it. You know WHY?? Because you realized that you stuck your foot in your mouth.

Now, I’m never gonna leave you alone. Every time you say something stupid – and that happens SEVERAL times a day – I’ll be there to expose you, as usual.

 

[BreadOfLife]

What lies, Dead Bread? We post the very words OF YOUR OWN APOSTATE CHURCH, you deny their authenticity, and then accuse us of lying. Textbook Jesuitical tactics, Dead Bread. Simply textbook.

"JESUITICAL"?
Seriously??
Do your homework, son . . .

 

[BreadOfLife]

There's more. You cram yourself into a tiny crawl space purported to be the burial place of Jesus (in another cave) and the priest there will grant you absolution 9 months in advance!

Just curious - WHAT Church document or decree is that from??

 

[Frank Lee]

 

[Phoneman777]

As idiotic and stupid – and erroneous your post was – why did you NOT take me up on my challenge?? Instead of PROVING your claim that I “misrepresented” or “denied” Catholic teaching – you simply regurgitated the usual anti-Catholic manure that you ALWAYS do.

You had a PERFECT chance to have me leave this form – and you didn’t take it. You know WHY?? Because you realized that you stuck your foot in your mouth.

Now, I’m never gonna leave you alone. Every time you say something stupid – and that happens SEVERAL times a day – I’ll be there to expose you, as usual.

Dead Bread, I've already given you examples of how you go against the teachings of the papacy, like when I showed you that the papacy denies Sunday sacredness is by authority of Scripture. Everyone can see right through your tactics. No Biblical Christian will ever accept your foolish ideas and anyone acquainted with the teachings of catholicism cannot but conclude that your only here to deceive.

 

[BreadOfLife]

*sigh* levels of deception, Dead Bread. If deception were a video game, then "Jesuit Level" would be last, highest to level up to.

ONE more time, Einstein - the Jesuits are a priestly order - NOT a "level" of Catholicism, Einstein.
There are no "levels" . . .

 

[BreadOfLife]

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And the definition of "Stupidity" is repeating the same nonsense AFTER you've been corrected several times . . .

 

[BreadOfLife]

Do you folk understand the meaning of the expression Antichrist? It doesn't primarily mean against Christ, although in effect it results in that, it means in place of Christ, or instead of Christ. Now replacing Christ could be said of any false religion, be it Islam or whatever. But the RCC has turned the replacement of Christ as our sole Mediator into an art form. Everything Rome does is Antichrist. They have replaced Him with saints, with Mary, with Joseph, they have replaced Him with the mass, with the rosary, with ritual, icons, superstitions, and the priesthood itself. Oh yes, and of course touching the imaginary milk of Mary even brings absolution from sin. Anything that replaces the blood of the Lamb can be found with the walls of that pretender that calls itself Catholic. The Roman ediface is, from top to bottom, and everything in between, a replacement of the true Christ with the false. Such is why the reformers nailed her to the wall naming her the man of sin, the sin of petition, the little horn of Daniel 7, the true Antichrist, which denies the Father and the Son in everything they do.

THANK YOU for allowing me to expose you yet again for your desperate lies.
NONE of what you posted is true - so it makes MY job that much easier . . .

 

[BreadOfLife]

There's more. You cram yourself into a tiny crawl space purported to be the burial place of Jesus (in another cave) and the priest there will grant you absolution 9 months in advance!

Just out of curiosity - can you produce for me the Church document or decree that states this?
Yeah - I DIDN'T think so.

Just another one of your unsubstantiated SDA LIES . . .

 

[BreadOfLife]

Dead Bread, I've already given you examples of how you go against the teachings of the papacy, like when I showed you that the papacy denies Sunday sacredness is by authority of Scripture. Everyone can see right through your tactics. No Biblical Christian will ever accept your foolish ideas and anyone acquainted with the teachings of catholicism cannot but conclude that your only here to deceive.

Just like I thought.
You got caught with your foot in your mouth - and now you can't pull it out . . .

 

[brakelite]

THANK YOU for allowing me to expose you yet again for your desperate lies. no
NONE of what you posted is true - so it makes MY job that much easier . . .

You should be standing outside the gates of Bethlehem warning your own Catholic brothers and sisters not to be so deluded as to believe that through spending 1000$s and traveling vast distances them to just to enter a man made pagan shrine to a dead person they can receive absolution for sin. There are millions or there Bol who would benefit from your zeal and stand for truth. Why not start with those in your own church and protect them from the lies of the priests and prelates who maintain their superstitions and myths.

 

[BreadOfLife]

Catechism ~

484~
Mary was invited to conceive "IN HIM"...

Huh? LOL

485~
The Holy Spirit...is sent to sanctify the womb of the Virgin Mary AND DIVINELY fecundate (fertilize) it ...

Huh? The Virgin's Womb, (not yet defiled) required sanctification?

And then HER WOMB was FERTALIZED? LOL
Far out...since it is SEEDS that Fertalize SEEDS..... LOL

485 ~
CAUSING here to conceive the eternal Son of the Father in a humanity DRAWN FROM HER OWN.

Whaaaat? Her own SEED?

What a load of unscriptural psychobabble.

No wonder SOME PEOPLE believe Jesus IS a HUMAN man.......THEY are TAUGHT a HUMAN WOMAN'S SEED WAS FERTALIZED by God.

Seems they missed the Lesson When angelic spirits fertilized a Human woman's seed......

What happened to THEM and WHAT was born out of those females?
{chains and prison for the spirits.
Gigantism for the babes so born}

Uh Jesus did not appear as a GIANT!

LOL

Yipes, what a load of nonsense.
Scripture says no such thing.

Glory to God,
Taken

Hey - YOUR lack of faith in God's abilities are NOT out problem.
Scripture tells us that with God - ALL things are possible (Matt. 19:26) - but YOU can't wrap your tiny mind around that . . .

 

[BreadOfLife]

You should be standing outside the gates of Bethlehem warning your own Catholic brothers and sisters not to be so deluded as to believe that through spending 1000$s and traveling vast distances them to just to enter a man made pagan shrine to a dead person they can receive absolution for sin. There are millions or there Bol who would benefit from your zeal and stand for truth. Why not start with those in your own church and protect them from the lies of the priests and prelates who maintain their superstitions and myths.

Just like an ignorant anti-Catholic - changing the subject when I give you a public spanking.

How about simply admitting that you invented the manure you posted and be done with it.
Or, better yet - PROVE it . . .

 

[CoreIssue]

Purgatory is pagan in origin, just like Christmas, Easter, holy water, prayer beads, Marionology, the pope, Cardinals and a host of other things.

The Pagan Origin of Purgatory

 

[brakelite]

PROVE it . . .

Prove that the Catholic Church system is Antichrist? You seriously want me to do that for you BOL? Are you really ready for such a revelation, or are you just blowing off steam? Here's your chance to back down...and let the moderators note please that BOL is requesting this information, I'm not offering it just to be critical or picky. BOL? You want this? I will open another thread just to accommodate your request.

 

[BreadOfLife]

Prove that the Catholic Church system is Antichrist? You seriously want me to do that for you BOL? Are you really ready for such a revelation, or are you just blowing off steam? Here's your chance to back down...and let the moderators note please that BOL is requesting this information, I'm not offering it just to be critical or picky. BOL? You want this? I will open another thread just to accommodate your request.

No - I want you to PROVE the following things that YOU claimed:
"They have replaced Him (Christ) with saints, with Mary, with Joseph, they have replaced Him with the mass, with the rosary, with ritual, icons, superstitions, and the priesthood itself. Oh yes, and of course touching the imaginary milk of Mary even brings absolution from sin."
Show me the OFFICIAL Catholic documentation that REPLACES Christ with the above list.


"You cram yourself into a tiny crawl space purported to be the burial place of Jesus (in another cave) and the priest there will grant you absolution 9 months in advance!"
Please provide the DOCUMENT . . .

 

[BreadOfLife]

Purgatory is pagan in origin, just like Christmas, Easter, holy water, prayer beads, Marionology, the pope, Cardinals and a host of other things.

The Pagan Origin of Purgatory

This reminds me of that game where the big strong guy holds the head of the smaller, weaker guy and watches and the smaller guy flails around and swings widly at the air with both fists . . .

 

[brakelite]

No - I want you to PROVE the following things that YOU claimed:
"They have replaced Him (Christ) with saints, with Mary, with Joseph, they have replaced Him with the mass, with the rosary, with ritual, icons, superstitions, and the priesthood itself. Oh yes, and of course touching the imaginary milk of Mary even brings absolution from sin."
Show me the OFFICIAL Catholic documentation that REPLACES Christ with the above list.


"You cram yourself into a tiny crawl space purported to be the burial place of Jesus (in another cave) and the priest there will grant you absolution 9 months in advance!"
Please provide the DOCUMENT . . .

Aaaaah. But I never claimed that there was any official church document sanctioning such a belief. But BOL, what you know, and what I know, is that 1000s of people, tens of 1000s of faithful Catholic people travel all over the world to these so-called sacred sites to receive absolution...indulgences...blessings. Shrines to Mary and to the saints.....with their icons, statues, candles, and rosaries, the church faithful, deluded, lost, deceived, and desperate for truth, are trusting in these inanimate man-made pretensions and superstitions to receive forgiveness of sin, and blessings from God. The church may not have official documents teaching this, but there is not one person with the courage to stand up and say ENOUGH!!! Enough of these lies!!! Go home and seek Jesus!!!! Mary cannot save you!!! The saints are DEAD!!! They cannot hear you!!!! Go home and pray to your only Mediator Christ Jesus...seek Him and ask Him for forgiveness and a change of heart. Ask Him for light, life, and peace of soul and spirit. "
BOL, you claim to be here as an advocate for truth. A buffer on behalf of Catholicism against the lies supposedly being told by us Protestants about Catholicism. But hey, what about defending your own people from the lies being propagated by your own church!???? Why are you not defending the gates of Bethlehem against the liars pretending to represent the church promising absolution to people for their pilgrimages and offerings? What about you standing firm in defense of truth in your own church by repudiating the constant empty promises of indulgences if pilgrims visit certain shrines...pray certain prayers to Mary or the saints...do certain penances or give to certain charities...
What happened @BreadOfLife to simple repentance and trust in a living Saviour, the Son of the eternal God, Jesus Christ? Why has your church made such grace so complicated and difficult and impossible to follow?
Why has your church replaced Jesus's sole Mediatorial ministry in the heavenly sanctuary above with an earthly priesthood and a system of works based penance and pilgrimages that grant the seeker of life absolutely nothing but an over loaded credit card?

Because your church system does indeed replace Jesus with other means to attain salvation, it is Antichrist.

 

[brakelite]

There may not be any official Catholic teaching supporting such nonsense @BreadOfLife , but there are certainly hundreds of thousands of Catholics all over the world who believe it. And it sure is not Protestants who are teaching this nonsense. And there is not one Catholic with the spiritual nous or the physical courage to stand up and tell them otherwise. Not even you.

 

[Frank Lee]