How do conservative evangelicals reconcile their support for Trump with Trump’s sinful lifestyle?

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Ziggy

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Where is the confusion?? He said he doesn't know if he has asked God for forgiveness and he doesn't bring God into that picture. Upon being asked the first time, he goes on and on about his religiosity. He goes to church, he's Presbyterian, etc ...but never speaks of asking God for forgiveness. He never mentions the Gospel that Jesus died for his/Trump's sins ....that he himself has sinned and is in need of the Savior. All you ever hear him do is skate around the actual question, and say a bunch of meaningless crap to tickle people's ears.
My 2nd husband who I lived with for 16 years told me once when I asked him if he believed in God.
His response to me was:
That's a personal issue and I don't want to share my thoughts.
I never heard him say whether he did or whether he didn't.
But his actions spoke louder than words.
He was a good man in his heart. He would help anyone who needed it.
He was loving and caring and a good provider.

I saw who he was, not heard what he didn't say.
Rest in peace Mark.
I miss you.
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How about none of them?? Why come into agreement with any evil man or woman? Your vote doesn't count anyway. If everyone stopped voting, they'd still put their man in.
Then we don't have a country or a Constitution or even a Bill of rights.
Because this country is founded on the basic structure of God's Government.
And it is We the People who under Christ are the head of this nation. And we choose people to be our voice and to be our Ambassador to the world.
If our vote doesn't count, then our voice doesn't count and the First Amendment is null and void.
We are living under Tyranny and a dictatorship if we forfeit our Right as We the People.

God chose Moses. We the people choose a President.
We in this country have God's full authority to do so.
We are One nation under God, with Liberty and Justice for All.
But we have forgotten, and have given our authority over to a seat that is supposed to serve the people and not rule over it.

1Ti 2:1
I exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks, be made for all men;
1Ti 2:2
For kings, and for all that are in authority; that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and honesty.
1Ti 2:3
For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour;

WE the PEOPLE collectively and united are the ones in Authority according to the Constitution of the United States of America.

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

Ultimately, as Christians, our allegiance is to God alone. His Word is to be the ultimate authority in our lives (Joshua 1:8; 2 Timothy 3:16–17) as we seek to be good citizens of our nations (Matthew 22:21; Romans 13:1–3; Titus 3:1). In fact, the Bible puts a strong emphasis on being unified as God’s people as we live and interact with one another in our daily lives (John 17:11; Romans 15:5–6; Ephesians 4:3). So, in a nation like the United States where the majority of people identify as Christian, being “one nation under God” would be a natural outflow of living according to the biblical commands for unity.

"I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. That, to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. That, whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles, and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness.



And then they STOLE it.

We need to wake up.
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My 2nd husband who I lived with for 16 years told me once when I asked him if he believed in God.
His response to me was:
That's a personal issue and I don't want to share my thoughts.
I never heard him say whether he did or whether he didn't.
But his actions spoke louder than words.
He was a good man in his heart. He would help anyone who needed it.
He was loving and caring and a good provider.

I saw who he was, not heard what he didn't say.
Rest in peace Mark.
I miss you.
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I'm sorry for your loss, @Ziggy ❤️

I'll tell you my experience. When I surrendered to Christ, the light came on and my heart was so filled with His Spirit and His love, I couldn't keep it to myself. I was 13 years old and living in what most would not even survive, with abusers in my home and everywhere I turned. But I still had to share Him with my father, and other family and relatives. I'll never understand why anyone would want to keep silent about Him. And everywhere we look in scripture, people went out and shared, even if it meant persecution (and it certainly has for me).
 
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Then we don't have a country or a Constitution or even a Bill of rights.
Look at all the proof, Zig ...the elites have placed every president for decades. Your votes don't count. We don't have a Godly man or woman fit for any office. It's all Babylon. I won't have ANY PART of it ... and they have NO PART of ME. NONE.
 

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Isn't that what repentance is?
If you do something wrong, you turn from it and try to make it right?
Sounds like walking the walk and not just talking the talk to me.

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Only he's still a racists, narcissistic, womanizing human trafficker and a cheat. He didn't stop abortion, nor did he do one thing to end governmental trauma based mind control that HE KNOWS is still carried out.
 

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I'm sorry for your loss, @Ziggy ❤️

I'll tell you my experience. When I surrendered to Christ, the light came on and my heart was so filled with His Spirit and His love, I couldn't keep it to myself. I was 13 years old and living in what most would not even survive, with abusers in my home and everywhere I turned. But I still had to share Him with my father, and other family and relatives. I'll never understand why anyone would want to keep silent about Him. And everywhere we look in scripture, people went out and shared, even if it meant persecution (and it certainly jas for me).
So after I got baptised at 18, I wanted to share the bible with my mom.
She was excommunicated from the Catholic church because she married a protestant.
And from what my daughter told me, that my mother confided in her, was when my Older sister Susan died of crib death at the age of 6th months. The Catholic church would not give the service of the burial to the child because she wasn't of the church.

so, now 20 years later, susan having been 2 years passed since I was born, My mom wouldn't listen to a word I said.
She told me it was Too heavy and didn't want to deal with it.
I know my mom knew God. But the religion she despised.
And so I never mentioned God or the bible again. But she knew I believed and I think that's all she needed to know.

Different strokes for different folks they say...
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Only he's still a racists, narcissistic, womanizing human trafficker and a cheat. He didn't stop abortion, nor did he do one thing to end governmental trauma based mind control that HE KNOWS is still carried out.
You don't know what's happening behind the scenes.
A lot of people going down down down, but the media isn't publishing it. The traffickers are being caught and sentenced but the media don't cover it.
You think Biden is behind this?
Have you read the Executive Order Trump signed regarding Crimes against Humanity?

You can't stop abortion. I can't stop abortion. Only the person pregnant can prevent it.
Trump is NOT GOD.

Stop..

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The bottom line is, there is only ONE WAY to salvation.

When a heart is truly changed, transformed by His Spirit and His love, they will not be silent.

Romans 10:8-11
[8]But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach;
[9]That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
[10]For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
[11]For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.
 

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You don't know what's happening behind the scenes.
A lot of people going down down down, but the media isn't publishing it. The traffickers are being caught and sentenced but the media don't cover it.
You think Biden is behind this?
Have you read the Executive Order Trump signed regarding Crimes against Humanity?

You can't stop abortion. I can't stop abortion. Only the person pregnant can prevent it.
Trump is NOT GOD.

Stop..

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He certainly isn't.....no matter how much he thinks he is.
 

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Look at all the proof, Zig ...the elites have placed every president for decades. Your votes don't count. We don't have a Godly man or woman fit for any office. It's all Babylon. I won't have ANY PART of it ... and they have NO PART of ME. NONE.
And as a citizen of the United States of America you are Free to not participate.
Unlike some countries where you are mandated to vote.

We're going to make our votes count. This aint over yet.
We are taking back Our Country which God gave to We the People.
There is a reason why Biden was given a short time.. to show the people that we had lost control of our Rights.

It's time to take them back.
The Best is Yet to Come.

2Ch 7:14
If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.

NCSWIC

Noone Can Stop What Is Coming

Keep the faith, walk with God. Pray for our country. We need your prayers.

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The bottom line is, there is only ONE WAY to salvation.

When a heart is truly changed, transformed by His Spirit and His love, they will not be silent.

Romans 10:8-11
[8]But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach;
[9]That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
[10]For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
[11]For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.
What happens if a person is a mute?
 

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He certainly isn't.....no matter how much he thinks he is.
It's not what he thinks or we think that matters. It's what God thinks.
And either you trust God or you don't.
And if Trump is not the man, he won't get the vote. And if he is the man, he still may not get the vote.
That's not what's important.
What's important is waking people up and showing them, This is OUR country not THEIRS.
And He did this. And that's what's important.
If we walk away now, we have no one to blame but ourselves.
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No matter how much stock you all put into the government, an earthly government will never be the solution to society's problems. Start at home and reach out to your neighbors, and the people you meet. Take care of who and what God has placed into your hands. Serve God and stop trusting in "men."

Judgment is coming, and God is calling His people OUT of Babylon.

1 Peter 4:16-18
[16]Yet if any man suffer as a Christian, let him not be ashamed; but let him glorify God on this behalf.
[17]For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God?
[18]And if the righteous scarcely be saved, where shall the ungodly and the sinner appear?
 

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What happens if a person is a mute?
I guarantee, they will find a way ....there is the written word, and there is sign language. I've seen mute Christians make their confessions known.
 
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No matter how much stock you all put into the government, an earthly government will never be the solution to society's problems. Start at home and reach out to your neighbors, and the people you meet. Take care of who and what God has placed into your hands. Serve God and stop trusting in "men."

Judgment is coming, and God is calling His people OUT of Babylon.

1 Peter 4:16-18
[16]Yet if any man suffer as a Christian, let him not be ashamed; but let him glorify God on this behalf.
[17]For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God?
[18]And if the righteous scarcely be saved, where shall the ungodly and the sinner appear?
We the People Are the Government. That's the problem.
We forgot.
Now We need to take it back.
And it's going to happen.
We're going to take down Babylon and God is going to lead us.
Amen!
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It's not what he thinks or we think that matters. It's what God thinks.
And either you trust God or you don't.
And if Trump is not the man, he won't get the vote. And if he is the man, he still may not get the vote.
That's not what's important.
What's important is waking people up and showing them, This is OUR country not THEIRS.
And He did this. And that's what's important.
If we walk away now, we have no one to blame but ourselves.
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I am doing what God has given me to do, Ziggy. Government, isn't my savior. I want no part of that system. HE has told me what is coming. He says to COME OUT of it. God has placed into my hands to minister to those who have been victimized by the government. That's what I'm here for. And that's why THEY want me dead.
 

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I am doing what God has given me to do, Ziggy. Government, isn't my savior. I want no part of that system. HE has told me what is coming. He says to COME OUT of it. God has placed into my hands to minister to those who have been victimized by the government. That's what I'm here for. And that's why THEY want me dead.
They are only the government if we Choose to give that power to them.
Their wanting you dead is why we must FIGHT against them and take back what belongs to us.
Freedom to believe, Freedom to choose, Freedom to come out from under their authority.
The Power is In US to do it.
It is written in Our Constitution to do so.
God is with US.
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