Just because I did it once, doesn't mean I won't vote for a Republican in the next election.
How do conservative evangelicals reconcile their support for Trump with Trump’s sinful lifestyle?
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Just because I did it once, doesn't mean I won't vote for a Republican in the next election.
Rella ~ I am a woman
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But your tell in this is the word a.
I remember those days when I would always vote for the opposite party in some position so no one could accuse me of always voting a straight ticket.
That changed in 2020.
Now for me it is one or none.
But indirectly you made my point when I say most "independent" no matter how moderated or bent left tend to vote with the Dems.
Independent to me means nothing other then someone generally does not want to be defined as being one way or the other.
That is OK... but you really should be prepared to reply to a question when challenged.
Then let me correct that. It doesn't mean I won't vote for Republicans in the next election. My "a" was more of a general statement and meant I could vote for one or more. It is how I normally talk and those that are around me all the time, know what I mean.
That is not why I would vote for a Republican(s). I would vote for a Republican if I feel they are more suited for the office than another candidate from a different party.
I guess this is pretty much where I am. I am not a Democrat and I am not a Republican. I am somewhere in the middle. That is why I identify as an independent moderate.
That's the beautiful thing about being an adult. I get to choose if I want to answer or not.
If I say just one policy, it will be an endless debate. I am getting too old for endless debate. If I choose not to answer a question, I shouldn't get, "That just means you don't have anything, see I knew it" in response. It should just be, left alone.
As Ziggy said either in this thread or another thread, people are too concerned with winning an argument/debate and not about fellowshipping.
Here is her exact quote from a different thread, "We aught to come here to find friendship and laughter and joy. To celebrate and find strength in each other. But instead it's like entering a wrestling match where no one ever wins and the battles just rage on.
Isn't there enough of that out there?"
This is why a lot of times I won't answer. I don't want the battle to just rage on and on. So, in my effort to at least stop my part in it, I shut down.
Oh, I am, but not by anyone close to me. As I have said, my fiance is a Democrat, but she believes that you can vote for whomever you want. She doesn't care if I vote Republican and she will do so herself at times. So, it's not coming from her (not sure if that is who you meant as you said for the sake of love).
I feel bullied on here at times. It's either I fall lock step in with them or I am the scourge of the Earth, destined for hell and on top of it I am a murderer because I believe in abortion for saving the life of the mother or because I voted for a Democrat, so I support everything that Democrat says and does. That is so far from the truth, but it doesn't matter.
Ziggy
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Ah, I hoped I deleted it before anyone read it. It's not related to the OP so I shouldn't have posted it.
Well, debating is bullying in a way. It's trying to persuade another that your point of view is more justified than another.
It's the nature of debate.
Your not being bullied, your being debated as to why you believe your view is as justified or more justified than anothers.
And to debate is to argue as in a court of law, your case as to the why's.
I understand the attacks can become personal and they shouldn't either way.
And sometimes people don't listen to the answers. A lot of assumptions happening all the time.
I get it.
Walking into a debate is like walking into the fire. You have to be ready to defend your stance on why you believe the way you do and why your view is justified. It's a matter of persuasion. And in most cases it's an art, that many of us don't possess but believe we do LOL.
If debating is too hot, then stay out of the fire. If the topic is too controversial then avoid it.
There's a lot of debates going on I never participate in because I know there's no way I'm going to persuade the opposing side of why my views are justified. And those are mainly debates that have to do with particular religions which I am opposed to.
But I know, no matter how much I try to persuade the other side that my point of view is justified,
It just ends up in endless foodfights.
Life is too short.
LOL
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That it is.
Have a three-day weekend (today is the last day of it) since it is MLK Day and the State gives us off that day. So I am going to enjoy the rest of my time off. I think I will go play some ARK: Survival Ascended or Baldur's Gate III.
Ziggy
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I suppose I'll get ready to watch the Iowa Caucus tonight at 7pm.
Take a nap and try to get rid of this perpetual stomach ache that just won't leave me alone.
Stress, does it every time.
Have a great day!
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Take a nap and try to get rid of this perpetual stomach ache that just won't leave me alone.
Stress, does it every time.
Have a great day!
Hugs
Trump is applying for a secular office, not a spiritual one. If you do not vote for Trump then you have to look for another candidate which has not been compromised by the world economic forum. You are going to have a problem with that because there does not seem to be any who actually have a grasp of economics to the point where they can fix things for the common people.
In general though I doubt it will make any real difference, the nation is coming under judgment and the generals of foreign nations will be the one governing the Republic soon enough.
In general though I doubt it will make any real difference, the nation is coming under judgment and the generals of foreign nations will be the one governing the Republic soon enough.
Rella ~ I am a woman
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Great idea,
And before the caucuses tonight I have the Steeler Buffalo game that was postponed from yesterday.
Sorry about your tummy. Feel better
Rella ~ I am a woman
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How about murdering MILLIONS of babies? Planned Parenthood loves Dem politicians!
Planned Parenthood launches $45M campaign to back Democrats in 2020
Planned Parenthood will spend $45 million on the 2020 elections, the nonprofit’s biggest electoral expenditure in its history, according to CBS News.The money will go toward the presidential electi…
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rebuilder 454
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a bit off topic, but i just listened to JFK blast the dems over the covid handling and the conspiracy he exposed.
JFK is so eloquent, and yet he has several positions that are just plain swamp creature. I am trump all the way, but I sense he will not get in, and in that event I will go with Desantis.
rebuilder 454
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we are not a theocracy.
We need someone with wisdom and principles.
A strong leader that can make these rogue nations stand down.
Trump is exactly that man.
Trump is doing amazing in the polls. Only way he won't be President again is Dem and Rino dirty tricks, again.
Rella ~ I am a woman
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Wrangler
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If only I used the male sibling word! Then you would find all truth and wisdom in my posts … another false moderate exposed.
Ziggy
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JFK knew exactly what was happening. He said he was going to shatter the CIA into a million pieces. And then they killed him.
Robert Kennedy I believe was running for Senator of NY, But Hillary wanted that job so they dropped his plane out of the sky into the
Atlantic Ocean right off Martha's Vineyard in Mass.
I like RFK Jr's. stance on somethings, but he's still caught up in the establishment.
You know he can't be all bad when even DuckDuckGo/ Google, call him a conspiracy theorist and an anti-vaxxer, LOL
Robert Francis Kennedy Jr., also known by his initials as RFK Jr. and the nickname Bobby, is an American politician, environmental lawyer and activist who promotes anti-vaccine misinformation and public health conspiracy theories. He is the chairman and founder of Children's Health Defense, an anti-vaccine advocacy group, and an independent candidate in the 2024 presidential election
They will remove him the same way they removed Bernie Sanders. They just pay them off, or shut them down, and make them unimportant.
So Politico posted this Sunday:
In an exclusive interview with POLITICO, Kennedy said that his father, Robert F. Kennedy — who authorized the wiretapping of King as attorney general — and President John F. Kennedy permitted the eavesdropping because they were “making big bets on King, particularly in organizing the March on Washington.”
“They were betting not only the civil rights movement but their own careers. And they knew that Hoover was out to ruin King,” said Robert Kennedy Jr., referring to J. Edgar Hoover, the FBI director at the time.
He argued that the Kennedy administration had a legitimate reason to go along with Hoover’s determination to surveil King. The FBI director saw King as a dangerous radical with Communists in his inner circle.
“There was good reason for them doing that at the time,” Kennedy said, “because J. Edgar Hoover was out to destroy Martin Luther King and the civil rights movement and Hoover said to them that Martin Luther King’s chief was a communist.
“My father gave permission to Hoover to wiretap them so he could prove that his suspicions about King were either right or wrong,” he continued. “I think, politically, they had to do it.”
www.politico.com
You know that goes against the 4th Amendment to wiretap american citizens. I think it's the 4th.
But for some reason politics regardless of party always finds a way to justify themselves to get around the laws of the land.
Hoover said, King's chief was a communist.
Leave it to the FBI:
John Edgar Hoover was an American law-enforcement administrator who served as the final Director of the Bureau of Investigation and the first Director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation. President Calvin Coolidge first appointed Hoover as director of the BOI, the predecessor to the FBI, in 1924.
en.wikipedia.org
Five decades after his death, J. Edgar Hoover still haunts the FBI. His nearly 48-year reign as its director, from 1924 to 1972, has come to symbolize the dangers of a stealth domestic police-and-intelligence agency in an open society. Hoover is widely seen today as an autocrat who used secret surveillance and other illegal means to control politicians and infiltrate and disrupt domestic political groups in the service of his conservative worldview. No operation confirms this verdict more vividly than the FBI’s wide-ranging electronic surveillance of Martin Luther King Jr., which culminated in a threatening letter to King accompanied by tape recordings of romantic trysts—an effort designed to drive King from the civil-rights movement or induce him to commit suicide.
www.theatlantic.com
Learn new things everyday, but nothing ever changes.
Remember James Comey and Russia Russia Russia?
Hugs
Robert Kennedy I believe was running for Senator of NY, But Hillary wanted that job so they dropped his plane out of the sky into the
Atlantic Ocean right off Martha's Vineyard in Mass.
I like RFK Jr's. stance on somethings, but he's still caught up in the establishment.
You know he can't be all bad when even DuckDuckGo/ Google, call him a conspiracy theorist and an anti-vaxxer, LOL
Robert Francis Kennedy Jr., also known by his initials as RFK Jr. and the nickname Bobby, is an American politician, environmental lawyer and activist who promotes anti-vaccine misinformation and public health conspiracy theories. He is the chairman and founder of Children's Health Defense, an anti-vaccine advocacy group, and an independent candidate in the 2024 presidential election
They will remove him the same way they removed Bernie Sanders. They just pay them off, or shut them down, and make them unimportant.
So Politico posted this Sunday:
In an exclusive interview with POLITICO, Kennedy said that his father, Robert F. Kennedy — who authorized the wiretapping of King as attorney general — and President John F. Kennedy permitted the eavesdropping because they were “making big bets on King, particularly in organizing the March on Washington.”
“They were betting not only the civil rights movement but their own careers. And they knew that Hoover was out to ruin King,” said Robert Kennedy Jr., referring to J. Edgar Hoover, the FBI director at the time.
He argued that the Kennedy administration had a legitimate reason to go along with Hoover’s determination to surveil King. The FBI director saw King as a dangerous radical with Communists in his inner circle.
“There was good reason for them doing that at the time,” Kennedy said, “because J. Edgar Hoover was out to destroy Martin Luther King and the civil rights movement and Hoover said to them that Martin Luther King’s chief was a communist.
“My father gave permission to Hoover to wiretap them so he could prove that his suspicions about King were either right or wrong,” he continued. “I think, politically, they had to do it.”
RFK Jr. defends Kennedy administration wiretap of Martin Luther King Jr.
The independent presidential candidate said his father and uncle knew the FBI was "out to ruin King" in an exclusive interview with POLITICO.
www.politico.com
You know that goes against the 4th Amendment to wiretap american citizens. I think it's the 4th.
But for some reason politics regardless of party always finds a way to justify themselves to get around the laws of the land.
Hoover said, King's chief was a communist.
Leave it to the FBI:
John Edgar Hoover was an American law-enforcement administrator who served as the final Director of the Bureau of Investigation and the first Director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation. President Calvin Coolidge first appointed Hoover as director of the BOI, the predecessor to the FBI, in 1924.
J. Edgar Hoover - Wikipedia
Five decades after his death, J. Edgar Hoover still haunts the FBI. His nearly 48-year reign as its director, from 1924 to 1972, has come to symbolize the dangers of a stealth domestic police-and-intelligence agency in an open society. Hoover is widely seen today as an autocrat who used secret surveillance and other illegal means to control politicians and infiltrate and disrupt domestic political groups in the service of his conservative worldview. No operation confirms this verdict more vividly than the FBI’s wide-ranging electronic surveillance of Martin Luther King Jr., which culminated in a threatening letter to King accompanied by tape recordings of romantic trysts—an effort designed to drive King from the civil-rights movement or induce him to commit suicide.
How J. Edgar Hoover Went From Hero to Villain
Before his abuses of power were exposed, he was celebrated as a scourge of Nazis, Communists, and subversives.
Learn new things everyday, but nothing ever changes.
Remember James Comey and Russia Russia Russia?
Hugs
Rella ~ I am a woman
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Ziggy
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I'm not even going to play the game of misgendering in this forum. LOL
If your not a he or a she then just say so, and I'll do my best to remember, no matter what your profile looks like. LOL
Rather, I just hey you, and that should solve it.
Pictures don't always speak a thousand words. Sometimes they can be misinformation.
Ha another zinger..lol
Don't mind me I'm just trying to learn this new language they making up today.
I grew up when things were cool man. And people looked hot.
And Fonzie went Aaye, and everyone went Ooooh yeah.
can you dig it?
Hugs
If your not a he or a she then just say so, and I'll do my best to remember, no matter what your profile looks like. LOL
Rather, I just hey you, and that should solve it.
Pictures don't always speak a thousand words. Sometimes they can be misinformation.
Ha another zinger..lol
Don't mind me I'm just trying to learn this new language they making up today.
I grew up when things were cool man. And people looked hot.
And Fonzie went Aaye, and everyone went Ooooh yeah.
can you dig it?
Hugs
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