How are we to reckon ourselves as being dead to sin?

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ButterflyJones

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Easy.

Stop believing you're a sinner after all that Christ did to change that about your former self.

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Rom 6

reckoned dead to sin.

Romans 6
6 What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin that grace may abound? 2 Certainly not! How shall we who died to sin live any longer in it? 3 Or do you not know that as many of us as were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into His death? 4 Therefore we were buried with Him through baptism into death, that just as Christ was raised from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.


5 For if we have been united together in the likeness of His death, certainly we also shall be in the likeness of His resurrection, 6 knowing this, that our old man was crucified with Him, that the body of sin might be [a]done away with, that we should no longer be slaves of sin. 7 For he who has died has been freed from sin. 8 Now if we died with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with Him, 9 knowing that Christ, having been raised from the dead, dies no more. Death no longer has dominion over Him. 10 For the death that He died, He died to sin once for all; but the life that He lives, He lives to God. 11 Likewise you also, reckon yourselves to be dead indeed to sin, but alive to God in Christ Jesus our Lord.

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1. We were baptized into him, his death and his burial
2. As such, We died with him
3. We were united together through this baptism in the likeness of his death. and we are assured we will also be united in his resurrection
4. Our old man (the flesh) was crucified, hence we are no longer slaves to sin.
5. Again, If we died, we KNOW we will also live
6. The death he died was to die for sin once for all. the life he lives, He lives to God.
7. For this reason, we should reckon ourselves indeed dead to sin, but alive to God.

Its not because we did something, its because God did something to us..
since death has no more power over us, the flesh has no power. because no matter what. we have assurance, we can live for him.
 
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They do not walk in the spirit, they don’t go to church, they don’t have power

its why they attack so much when people show them, because they have no power
Yes, and unfortunately no discernment either, if he can't tell after all this time, that I and others of us here didn't come to Christ by a "religious decision" but by the Spirit.
 

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3 Testimonies today, Praise The Lord! And they have conquered him by the blood of The Lamb and by the word of their testimony, for they loved not their own lives even unto death.
God is Good indeed and His Holy Word the Bible confirms the truth about being born again, new creations in Christ, the old has passed away and all things have become new- born of the Spirit. Transformed life's in Him. Many more have the same new birth and have not shared who have posted in this thread and are not fooled by his false teachings as a false prophet that has no accountability.
 
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Yes, and unfortunately no discernment either, if he can't tell after all this time, that I and others of us here didn't come to Christ by a "religious decision" but by the Spirit.
Its easy to see my dear sister . Just read even in john , what john himself says IS of ANTI CHRIST .
it believes not that JESUS IS THE CHRIST , THE SON OF GOD .
So , what spirit are folks truly of when they can say and imply that one does not have to BELIEVE in CHRIST .
Think about that . Because we are watching a global religoin taking all right under a lie . A lie
which says muslims , buddists , etc are fine as long as they are doing what this new gospel says and calls good .
Its all a set up sister . They went to work to mold a religion which will suit all religoins , even the secular .
They found what all religions have in common ground . Like good works and this talk about love
and now its what they preach and JESUS has been kicked out as the ONLY way to be saved .
This religion is not new but it has grown massive in these last hours .
How do you unite the world . How does one unite all these different faiths and even all false religions
and even secular . Preach this love , this love that all humanity and all religoins can relate too .
And constantly teach them all we need to overlook our differences and focus on what we have in common .
THATS HOW THEY DO IT . Satan is not dumb . The bible clearly says He is full of wisdom .
Carnal minds and carnal man cannot overcome him or his deciets . ONLY IN CHRIST JESUS can one
know truth and be kept safe from the deceptoins of men and of the dragon .
You watch , all they gonna keep doing is preaching love love love , unity , common ground
and this is done in the secular realm as well as the christain one as well as the other religions too .
THEY ARE DOING all to merge us all as one to come under a lie that simply cannot save .
AND WHO do we think would do that . Satan would . His desire is death and destruction for all
and His desire is to be worshipped as GOD . So he creates a mindset , a religion
that DISHONORS THE SON , making the path to GOD VERY BROAD , which in truth is a path to He who desires to be as GOD .
 

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They went to work within all facets of peoples and religions .
To unify the world as one under a lie that cannot save them .
But rather a lie that will use both the secular and religions to serve a common agenda .
The one world agenda .
And folks simply cannot see it for what it is . all they see and hear is the love it preaches
the unity it preaches and they merge more and more to be as one unit .
The athiest embraces the love side of it . Atheiest even like the idea of all religions coming together as one
and serving this idea of love it preaches . Its working , but not on the lambs it aint .
To get the world under your control , you cannot omit religion . Because
most of the world IS religious . sure most of its false and only christain faith in Christ is true .
But to get the world to unite , you have to change the religions from within .
Find common ground on good works which all religoins , including atheists agree on .
Keep plucking away at fundamental truth and keep the focus on the good works , on a sensual love
and the people will merge under it .
The religoins and secular can all chant love your nieghbor as yourself . to them this is no problem .
What they cannot and will not do is , BELIEVE or say to BELIEVE IN JESUS CHRIST .
If you all notice we got some , even here amongst us who are huge on saying LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR
but i sure never hear a peep out of them about the WHOLE of what JESUS said or the apostels said .
THEY can quoate even john in his letter about loving your brother
but they never quoate the many parts where HE said YE MUST BELIEVE in CHRIST
This was all socially engineered into places . THEY did the same within the other false religons too .
THEY began chipping away at the parts that contradict each others religoin and focused only
on the parts in common , like i said the doing good works and love talk .
THEY knew what they were doing and many are falling for this .
Till now at the very most jesus is simply a prophet who did some good , but its not necessary to believe on HIM .
ALL A LIE and a very clever one too . Cause they cloaked it all under this guise of love . YET ITS A FALSE LOVE
 

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Yes, and unfortunately no discernment either, if he can't tell after all this time, that I and others of us here didn't come to Christ by a "religious decision" but by the Spirit.
its part of the hiding, it helps them to continue to believe as they do. to not question anything, and excuse their actions.
 
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They preach GOD is love , and yet wont preach HIS LOVE .
THE DIRE NECESSITY OF CHRIST .
BINGO , that is what they do .
GOD IS LOVE they holler
judge not they holler as sins only increase
Where is the LOVE OF GOD in THAT .
They can holler LOVE , but wont preach the LOVE OF GOD that POINTS TO FAITH IN CHRIST . thus
its FALSE LOVE that leadeth to a LIE .
 

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Jesus condemned the Pharisees in Matthew 23 the entire chapter for their hypocrisy- do as I say not as I do- creating their own self righteous standards not Gods. They have no accountability other than themselves. Oppose them and they would have you killed, persecuted and made an outcast. You will know them by their fruits as a good tree produces good fruit and a bad tree cannot produce good fruit.
 
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Is John/Epi a "neighbor" Jim--and what does Scriptures say about false brethren? What are we TO DO with them?
The difference is if one open to correction, have a humble spirit , are they teachable and have accountability with the local bodies leadership ?

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Are they filled with pride, have no accountability and are not teachable accepting correction ?

For example we have 25 men in our mens discipleship that meets Thursday mornings at 5am. Our pastor is just one of the guys there. We have had talks and he is open to correction and knows he is not right on everything. He is open and teachable. A teacher is always a student who is always learning.

Another example is I would of never left calvinism if I was not open and teachable and couldn't admit I was wrong after believing something for over 40 years.

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Crucify him?


Matt 7:15-16
"Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves.


Matt 23:27-28

27 "Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You are like whitewashed tombs, which look beautiful on the outside but on the inside are full of dead men's bones and everything unclean. 28 In the same way, on the outside you appear to people as righteous but on the inside you are full of hypocrisy and wickedness.

Matt 23:33-34
33 "You snakes! You brood of vipers! How will you escape being condemned to hell?

John 8:41-45
"We are not illegitimate children," they protested. "The only Father we have is God himself."

42 Jesus said to them, "If God were your Father, you would love me, for I came from God and now am here. I have not come on my own; but he sent me. 43 Why is my language not clear to you? Because you are unable to hear what I say. 44 You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father's desire. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies.


Acts 20:29-31
I know that after I leave, savage wolves will come in among you and will not spare the flock. 30 Even from your own number men will arise and distort the truth in order to draw away disciples after them. 31 So be on your guard!


1 Cor 5:9-13
I have written you in my letter not to associate with sexually immoral people— 10 not at all meaning the people of this world who are immoral, or the greedy and swindlers, or idolaters. In that case you would have to leave this world. 11 But now I am writing you that you must not associate with anyone who calls himself a brother but is sexually immoral or greedy, an idolater or a slanderer, a drunkard or a swindler. With such a man do not even eat.

12 What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside? 13 God will judge those outside. "Expel the wicked man from among you."



2 Cor 11:13-15

For such men are false apostles, deceitful workmen, masquerading as apostles of Christ. 14 And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light. 15 It is not surprising, then, if his servants masquerade as servants of righteousness. Their end will be what their actions deserve.


1 Tim 6:3-5
If anyone teaches false doctrines and does not agree to the sound instruction of our Lord Jesus Christ and to godly teaching, 4 he is conceited and understands nothing. He has an unhealthy interest in controversies and quarrels about words that result in envy, strife, malicious talk, evil suspicions 5 and constant friction between men of corrupt mind, who have been robbed of the truth


2 Tim 2:14-17
Keep reminding them of these things. Warn them before God against quarreling about words; it is of no value, and only ruins those who listen. 15 Do your best to present yourself to God as one approved, a workman who does not need to be ashamed and who correctly handles the word of truth. 16 Avoid godless chatter, because those who indulge in it will become more and more ungodly. 17 Their teaching will spread like gangrene.


2 Peter 2:1-3
But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them — bringing swift destruction on themselves. 2 Many will follow their shameful ways and will bring the way of truth into disrepute. 3 In their greed these teachers will exploit you with stories they have made up. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping.

1 John 4:1-3
Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world. 2 This is how you can recognize the Spirit of God: Every spirit that acknowledges that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God, 3 but every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you have heard is coming and even now is already in the world.


Jude 3-4
I felt I had to write and urge you to contend for the faith that was once for all entrusted to the saints. 4 For certain men whose condemnation was written about long ago have secretly slipped in among you. They are godless men, who change the grace of our God into a license for immorality and deny Jesus Christ our only Sovereign and Lord.


Jude 12-13
These men are blemishes at your love feasts, eating with you without the slightest qualm — shepherds who feed only themselves. They are clouds without rain, blown along by the wind; autumn trees, without fruit and uprooted — twice dead. 13 They are wild waves of the sea, foaming up their shame; wandering stars, for whom blackest darkness has been reserved forever.


2 John 7-11
Many deceivers
, who do not acknowledge Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh, have gone out into the world. Any such person is the deceiver and the antichrist. 8 Watch out that you do not lose what you have worked for, but that you may be rewarded fully. 9 Anyone who runs ahead and does not continue in the teaching of Christ does not have God; whoever continues in the teaching has both the Father and the Son. 10 If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not take him into your house or welcome him. 11 Anyone who welcomes him shares in his wicked work.

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The outer man is easily twice as strong as the inner man in a given person. What happens when you build up the outer man with religion is that the part that God wants to save....the inner man...is totally "buried" like the talent in the parable.
The inner man…is totally “buried” like the talent. In the parable. That helps. Thank you. I’ve never looked at this way.

To me this is good news because of “I will give unto you treasures of darkness, and the hidden riches of secret places”. Which sounds like truly what it means to inherit “the incorruptible” “the inner man” as He went further to say it is the hidden man of the heart which is precious in the Sight of God. I don’t see how that can be danced around and called fallacy, unless the interest lies in the outer darkness of the outer man. Which is not the treasure but instead God’s treasure that is precious in the Sight of God.

That talent “buried” in the parable. To me this is the true meaning of what it means to “raise the dead” unto “Life”. Not the outer religious man but the “hidden” man of the heart which is precious in the Sight of God. To me that doesn’t say ‘darkness’ and ‘hidden’ is the treasure or ‘secret places’ is the riches …but God is after the inner man. To me that is so hopeful. With corruption does not inherit the incorruptible. For example …in the NT where the man comes in and falls on his face and worships God. Isn’t his pouring out praise unto God the treasure and a giving up of things (kept or imprisoned) hidden in darkness; the riches of secret places.
 
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