How are we to reckon ourselves as being dead to sin?

[Eternally Grateful]

If God hasn’t separated you from your mothers womb, then you sir are not born again. It’s that simple. You’ve been taught of men,,,,, not God!

How is one born again, What does it really mean.. What is being seperated from your mothers womb?

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Galatians 4:26-27 KJV
[26] But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all. [27] For it is written, Rejoice, thou barren that bearest not; break forth and cry, thou that travailest not: for the desolate hath many more children than she which hath an husband.


Would you look at that. The womb above had never given birth prior to Jesus.

what does this have to do with being born again?

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Try looking at post #2026. You have to be able to see beyond the cross.

If you can;t see the cross. Nothing else matters

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Ok well use Paul Who We know was born of God


Galatians 1:15-16 KJV
[15] But when it pleased God, who separated me from my mother's womb, and called me by his grace, [16] To reveal his Son in me, that I might preach him among the heathen; immediately I conferred not with flesh and blood:

So paul knew better that Jesus?

He was seperated front he jews. His people. His nation.

That did not save paul. He went to his enemies. The gentiles

But that did not make hin born again

 

[Lizbeth]

Not everything can be categorized into black and white dogmatic stances. I don't have a religion. I have a faith.

What I see and therefore comment on is the flesh acting like its more than it is. Somebody has to represent the truth.

To you the gospel itself is dogmatic and nutty. Because it is foolishness to the perishing. I hope you will think about that. You made a wrong turn somewhere along the way and need to get back to the truth.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Exactly!

Exactly

Because we have found jesus, We have been born again, We have experienced Gods love we walk in the spirit. And we can know a false truth when we see it, because we also know his word.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

These protesting Catholics are nuts.

So epi calls us Protestants. You call us catholics

can‘t you guys get your stories straight?

 

[Eternally Grateful]

I gave you sufficient scripture to show you that you have no conception of what it is to be born of God. I event quoted the apostle you said you wanted me to use?

Until you give us John 3. You have not given us any scripture.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

You’re hiding behind Christs Cross.

Your rejecting Christ’s cross

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Tried? I gave you scripture that fully shows the new birth and where it took place.

When did you give us John 3?

 

[Eternally Grateful]

I’ve played the role of religious,egotistical pontificate, now I’m seeing something very new.

Your still playing it

What you see may be new. But it is still in error

 

[ChristisGod]

....of those who believe in Him. How else can the Lord become someone's father or husband, except through faith. There is no spirit of adoption without Him because it is HIS spirit. If a widow or fatherless person dies in their sins and darkness, without knowing Jesus and never calls upon Him, how on earth are they saved? Why did Jesus have to go and preach to the spirits in prison? Is He going to preach to spirits in prison again at the end of the age? Please show me where it says that, I would certainly be glad to read of such a passage, but I don't know of any scripture that says that.

You are not rightly dividing the parable about Lazarus and the rich man and the point it was making. It wasn't a message about the unsaved being in heaven.

You judge those who are poor in spirit .

Next

 

[Waiting on him]

I knew it wouldn’t take long.

 

[Lizbeth]

So epi calls us Protestants. You call us catholics

can‘t you guys get your stories straight?

We've been called just about everything under the sun that anyone can call a person, lol!

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Maybe your correct, but doesn’t it say here that it is up too God?


Galatians 1:15 KJV
[15] But when it pleased God, who separated me from my mother's womb, and called me by his grace,


And He does the separating?

John 3:
3 Jesus answered and said to him, “Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.”

What is being born again?

5 Jesus answered, “Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God. 6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. 7 Do not marvel that I said to you, ‘You must be born again.’ 8 The wind blows where it wishes, and you hear the sound of it, but cannot tell where it comes from and where it goes. So is everyone who is born of the Spirit.”

How is one born again?

10. Jesus answered and said to him, “Are you the teacher of Israel, and do not know these things? 11 Most assuredly, I say to you, We speak what We know and testify what We have seen, and you do not receive Our witness. 12 If I have told you earthly things and you do not believe, how will you believe if I tell you heavenly things? 13 No one has ascended to heaven but He who came down from heaven, that is, the Son of Man who is in heaven. 14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of Man be lifted up, 15 that whoever believes in Him should [c]not perish buthave eternal life. 16 For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. 17 For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved.

18 “He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

Being born again is passing from death (condemned) to life (not condemned) it is being adopted or born again into the family of God..

It occurs through faith.. And it is done by God.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

No his calling from the womb.

Paul was just called from Israel to the gentiles

thats all that means, do not read to much into it

 

[Eternally Grateful]

You have a rather earthy understanding of everything.

As do you

 

[Lizbeth]

John 3:
3 Jesus answered and said to him, “Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.”

What is being born again?

5 Jesus answered, “Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God. 6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. 7 Do not marvel that I said to you, ‘You must be born again.’ 8 The wind blows where it wishes, and you hear the sound of it, but cannot tell where it comes from and where it goes. So is everyone who is born of the Spirit.”

How is one born again?

10. Jesus answered and said to him, “Are you the teacher of Israel, and do not know these things? 11 Most assuredly, I say to you, We speak what We know and testify what We have seen, and you do not receive Our witness. 12 If I have told you earthly things and you do not believe, how will you believe if I tell you heavenly things? 13 No one has ascended to heaven but He who came down from heaven, that is, the Son of Man who is in heaven. 14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of Man be lifted up, 15 that whoever believes in Him should [c]not perish buthave eternal life. 16 For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. 17 For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved.

18 “He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

Being born again is passing from death (condemned) to life (not condemned) it is being adopted or born again into the family of God..

It occurs through faith.. And it is done by God.

See anything about "being awakened to eternal consciousness" anywhere there? Nope, me either. Looks like Epi's teaching is adding to the word. Deception is such a strange phenomenon.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Yes, I'm saying that in your obsession to be saved you have created a new category...a sinful holiness...a filthy rags righteousness.... being now attributable to God (of all things)...and other such fallacies.

lol. I am not the one denying the power of God to change lives, The power of God to make that which is dead alive in God. The power of God to save people

and I am not like th e pharisee pumping my chest thanking God I am not like the sinner..

If you could be taken serious ya'll would be dangerous. Fortunately you have no credibility whatsoever...maybe beyond a household pet.

You are dangerous. You have no credibility. You reject the cross. And claim the Bible should not be listened to.

You are one tha Christ warned us about..

 

[Eternally Grateful]

....of those who believe in Him. How else can the Lord become someone's father or husband, except through faith. There is no spirit of adoption without Him because it is HIS spirit. If a widow or fatherless person dies in their sins and darkness, without knowing Jesus and never calls upon Him, how on earth are they saved? Why did Jesus have to go and preach to the spirits in prison? Is He going to preach to spirits in prison again at the end of the age? Please show me where it says that, I would certainly be glad to read of such a passage, but I don't know of any scripture that says that.

You are not rightly dividing the parable about Lazarus and the rich man and the point it was making. It wasn't a message about the unsaved being in heaven.

Amen

Universalism that epi teaches is not from God