How are we to reckon ourselves as being dead to sin?

[ChristisGod]

So you made the choice.

God calls everyone to choose this day who you will serve. It’s called free will as God doesn’t make it force anyone to choose or believe in Him. You must be a Calvinist .

 

[Waiting on him]

God calls everyone to choose this day who you will serve. It’s called free will as God doesn’t make it force anyone to choose or believe in Him. You must be a Calvinist .

Awesome, thanks!

 

[Lizbeth]

religious nut​

A person who seeks to convert them to their religion

A person who talks about religion all the time ...never stops

A person that annoys everyone with talking about religion.
A religious nut preaching on street corner

A religious nut who talks about religion in an unreasonable way.

religious nut interrupts a speech and starts talking a off topic and starts talking about religion.

And does your religion tell you that posts like this proceed from your flesh or from the Holy Spirit?

 

[Lizbeth]

What is it about "God so loved the world..." that you don't understand? God loves all people, yet you do not!

You appear to be forgetting the last part of that verse. Whosoever believes in Him will have eternal life, not whosoever doesn't believe in Him. God is love....but He will not be mocked.

 

[Episkopos]

And does your religion tell you that posts like this proceed from your flesh or from the Holy Spirit?

Not everything can be categorized into black and white dogmatic stances. I don't have a religion. I have a faith.

What I see and therefore comment on is the flesh acting like its more than it is. Somebody has to represent the truth.

 

[ChristisGod]

Not everything can be categorized into black and white dogmatic stances. I don't have a religion. I have a faith.

What I see and therefore comment on is the flesh acting like its more than it is. Somebody has to represent the truth.

Yes everything you say and do is from the flesh or the spirit and in some cases demons .

 

[Episkopos]

You appear to be forgetting the last part of that verse. Whosoever believes in Him will have eternal life, not whosoever doesn't believe in Him. God is love....but He will not be mocked.

That puts you at a disadvantage. The poor need food and clean water. While you judge them and consign them to hell because of a religious dogmatic ideology...God is a God of the fatherless, the needy, the widow, the disadvantaged.

You should read the parable of the rich man and Lazarus. Was Lazarus "saved" because of his beliefs? Was the rich man unsaved because of his??? How much of your own understanding survives anything but the most superficial assessment of the biblical narrative?

 

[Episkopos]

Yes everything you say and do is from the flesh or the spirit and in some cases demons .

Coming from you...this is a compliment!

 

[ChristisGod]

Coming from you...this is a compliment!

Well from you it’s not the spirit so it’s one of the other options since your teaching contradicts scripture.So pick your poison

 

[Eternally Grateful]

I’m confused. Isn’t repent to change? To turn?

We repent from unbelief to belief.

You don;t stop sin first. Its impossible for an unbeliever to stop sin

Instead of…. telling her to repent and turn to God. Isn’t this the same as a legalistic church telling her she must change first. When change is “to repent”. To me the legalistic church is not saying change but keep your own ways and build upon them. I’m confused. If I suggest there must be a loss of our own image to gain His. It is …where does it say you have to give up your own image to gain His? That is considered a wage …yet we quote we happily give which is no chore at all “to us” because God loves cheerful givers. Usually in context of our own works during and while propping our feet up with barely little cost (and I don’t mean money) in fact working in our own image, and not His. Like giving money to the homeless man. Which in return, often times deceives us that those are good works we just did there. While secretly unknowingly patting ourselves on the back, because now we can keep our own image and have His too. Only God knows the motive of why we do things. But to me there are lots of times we say it is for others but instead it is leaching of others to build up ourself. Yet we are totally convinced we are “cheerful givers” for others.

Paul thought he was right with God based on the law. His religion and his traditions.

When he repented. He confessed he was lost. A sinner. Who was in need of help. And confessed the lord.

The problem with religion is it is trying to change itself. Or to make itself into something else. God said sit. And let him change you.

You can try all you want to make yourself into the image of God. It will not save you. You will be left in he same state

Paul said we need to be crunified wiht Christ. You can;t crucify yourself.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

The modern church represents the fallen nature...no need to repent. In fact, it is the ego that is being boosted in so many modern ministries.

when will you repent. Like we have?

Exactly. Now that the carnal ways become religious that is seen as "saved."

Which is exactly what your preaching

 

[Episkopos]

when will you repent. Like we have?

Which is exactly what your preaching

Yes, I'm saying that in your obsession to be saved you have created a new category...a sinful holiness...a filthy rags righteousness.... being now attributable to God (of all things)...and other such fallacies.

If you could be taken serious ya'll would be dangerous. Fortunately you have no credibility whatsoever...maybe beyond a household pet.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Maybe epi could say the same. What remains to be seen is: who is exposing the dead?

Unless you acknowledge you are dead. You can’t expose the dead.

There was a time I attacked epi too. So I’m not a cult follower of his. I viewed him when he came here as selling some garbage of promoting himself. That was my perspective. But now these are some things I consider. The blame that he doesn’t quote or read the word. Ever. Is that true? Because that confuses me because often times he sees things in the word that are not regurgitated mens doctrines. I remember reading once something he shared about the walls of Jericho. Goliath and David (to name a few). So to be honest; it seems insane to blame someone for not reading the word when …maybe they are more intimate with the word than those reading and quoting what men have told them the word says. Another that I think of is Byrd here. I’ve read him be called a Muslim too. Or having a connection. I’ve read him called all kinds of names. But the way Byrd reads the word is will fresh eyes, not following other mens doctrines. He has been kicked off so many times for making people mad. I remember once he wrote a post to a member about coming to kill and and take your children…something like that. Who he wrote too became angry and assumed he was threatening to come kill his children. The one he had said this too was spinning yelling “He just threatened me and my family!” Growling “come in over here buddy.” I didn’t see it that way, I still do not believe it had anything to do with the guys family…but instead Byrd was talking about religion. A wake up call. Point is…there are others on the board who read the word trying to get untangled from mens doctrines. Would I rather go sit with them even if others are saying they are the ones spouting the enemies doctrines. Absolutely. I would go sit with epi at the table.

I am not attacking epi. I am trying to show the truth. I expose his words and his teachings.

He on the other hand attacks anyone who does not agree with him. He is a cult leader. What he teaches has never been taught by anyone else. We have asked him, he can not show one person in the last 2000 years who teaches what he does. He also places his inspite above the word of God. He tells people to go to the cross. But he does not even understand what the cross mean.

Look at the way Himself. Stunned by grace and your husband talks to people. That is not the spirit of God. You are soft. You are tender hearted. Thats why it is easy to talk to you.

I pray for you daily. That you are exposed ot the truth. And see the reality of what God wants you to see.. That through Christ you can be born again and be given all things.

The truth changes people. Being adopted changes people. They do not remain the same, they do not act like the world. And they walk in the spirit..

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Thank you for your kind words sister. You have an inner man courage to say what you did. And you would be welcome to sup with us anytime! :) See I am bold on these threads to strengthen the inner man in people...giving them courage and hope...to resist the death that man-made religion brings. In Christ is life everlasting.

The outer man is easily twice as strong as the inner man in a given person. What happens when you build up the outer man with religion is that the part that God wants to save....the inner man...is totally "buried" like the talent in the parable.

Jesus said that hypocrites go to great lengths to convert people to their ideas...but is so doing make them worse than before. Jesus puts it in an even starker tone. I don't have to see any more about it since judgment is coming quickly.

You teach man made religion my friend.

Get over yourself..

 

[Eternally Grateful]

You crows are attracted to what is dead...and are circling over my threads in thinking that I will adopt your dead works. But I will shoo you away with every breath in my body. I know your religious way of men. They are by indoctrination...and are dead.

Instead, why not seek the Lord while you still can??? Maybe He will accept you? How will you know if you never try?

We are exposing you my friend.. You go from chatroom to chatroom teaching your man made self righteous religion. attacking Gods people. And attacking his word and the cross.

You think you can just roam free?

 

[ChristisGod]

Yes, I'm saying that in your obsession to be saved you have created a new category...a sinful holiness...a filthy rags righteousness.... being now attributable to God (of all things)...and other such fallacies.

If you could be taken serious ya'll would be dangerous. Fortunately you have no credibility whatsoever...maybe beyond a household pet.

You are projecting again . You create a new category by denying the new birth through the gospel .

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Why are you so obsessed with New Age? Especially when you espouse that kind of thinking with your name it claim it philosophizing of the word. I posted a little Richard Rohr extract...I picked up from facebook. I think it sums up your religious philosophy...which IS New Age.

I am so counter-cultural...I stand apart from all man-made systems and techniques.

I get accused of doing opposite things depending on the accuser. And I love that...as Jesus was also accused of saying opposite things. And that's because of the lack of spiritual understanding in the accusers. Just like here.

So either I'm on one extreme...inventing my own religion...or... on the other extreme I'm following a human pattern.

What happens is that people accuse me of what THEY are doing. So I know you used to practice yoga and were (or are) into New Age practices. It's still there in your thinking...that's why you are so scared.

You can fool the crows, and yourself (since you are now one of them for the sake of your outer man comfort) ...but I'm not fooled.

Look at these words

I am this

I am that

I get this

I get that.

It is all about self here.. A pharisee of pharisees, who thinks he is above all.

 

[Lizbeth]

That puts you at a disadvantage. The poor need food and clean water. While you judge them and consign them to hell because of a religious dogmatic ideology...God is a God of the fatherless, the needy, the widow, the disadvantaged.

You should read the parable of the rich man and Lazarus. Was Lazarus "saved" because of his beliefs? Was the rich man unsaved because of his??? How much of your own understanding survives anything but the most superficial assessment of the biblical narrative?

....of those who believe in Him. How else can the Lord become someone's father or husband, except through faith. There is no spirit of adoption without Him because it is HIS spirit. If a widow or fatherless person dies in their sins and darkness, without knowing Jesus and never calls upon Him, how on earth are they saved? Why did Jesus have to go and preach to the spirits in prison? Is He going to preach to spirits in prison again at the end of the age? Please show me where it says that, I would certainly be glad to read of such a passage, but I don't know of any scripture that says that.

You are not rightly dividing the parable about Lazarus and the rich man and the point it was making. It wasn't a message about the unsaved being in heaven.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

It means God has separated you from your mothers womb.

No, it does not

why can;t you all read John 3. Jesus not only tells what it is, he tells us how to be born again

 

[Keturah]

....of those who believe in Him. How else can the Lord become someone's father or husband, except through faith. There is no spirit of adoption without Him because it is HIS spirit. If a widow or fatherless person dies in their sins and darkness, without knowing Jesus and never calls upon Him, how on earth are they saved? Why did Jesus have to go and preach to the spirits in prison? Is He going to preach to spirits in prison again at the end of the age? Please show me where it says that, I would certainly be glad to read of such a passage, but I don't know of any scripture that says that.

You are not rightly dividing the parable about Lazarus and the rich man and the point it was making. It wasn't a message about the unsaved being in heaven.

Amen