Homosexuality: Wrong or Right?

[Behold]

you complete lack of knowledge of even basic genetics is truly sad

Your complete indifference to natural Biology (Anatomy and Physiology) is clearly proven., is clearly revealing you.

 

[TinMan]

"Perverted sexuality" is what defines a "homo-sexual".

Didn't you know?

pretending a minority is only about sex is pretty perverted

You are now performing the Gay agenda.

You are casting the homosexual as the "Victim".

Apparently, you memorized the book, and that document i showed you, some months ago.

it would be a lie to say they weren't

Is that part of the homophobia agenda. To lie as often and as loudly as possible?

Child abuse has more branches..

yes the horrific abuse and violence so many LGBT youth experience

then just being recruited into the homosexual lifestyle by older Homosexuals through seduction, deceit, media, and music.

and more from the homophobia agenda

Im not homophobic.

Homophobia - an irrational fear of, aversion to, or discrimination against homosexuality or people who are identified or perceived as being lesbian, gay, bisexual or transgender. It includes antipathy, contempt, prejudice, aversion, and hatred of homosexuals


So yes, yes you are.

I see homosexuals as they are, and i make no excuses for their alt sexual lifestyle choices.

how is lying about them seeing them as they are?

I have much compassion for their lifelong suffering,

Your hate and lies are a primary source of that suffering

but i have zero tolerance for Gay Agenda supporters like you, @TinMan .
And i do mean "zero".

and how to the fake quotes inserted into that "agenda" fit in?

 

[TinMan]

What i remember is the Vulgar evening in the USA when the Dem Party's Fake Savior.... Barak Obama... decided to blaspheme (Spit on) the White House using these Pride colors..

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How dare anyone acknowledge a legal victory against discrimination against a group you choose to hate

 

[TinMan]

Well, i'll have to decide later what i'll post tomorrow.

But as of today, what i posted is the insight into the mind of the demonic gay agenda.

by posting false claims

 

[Behold]

pretending a minority is only about sex is pretty perverted

"homo-sexual" is defined as your minority you are supporting.
What defines a "homo-sexual"?

"Same gender fornication".

This is not going to change because you dont like it.
See, you are up against the Truth, so, you lost your GA battle, before you even started @TinMan

 

[Behold]

Is that part of the homophobia agenda. To lie as often and as loudly as possible?

Its in the Homosexual Agenda handbook..

23.) "Always say they are lying".. (No need to prove it.)

24.) "When confronted, then say, "i did prove it".

The Gay Agenda is sort of like the Quran', as in both cases, both teach that "any means necessary to promote the cause is allowed"

 

[Behold]

Your hate and lies are a primary source of that suffering

Gay Agenda Handbook

1.) When losing the argument, define the Heterosexual as a "hater".

 

[Behold]

How dare anyone acknowledge a legal victory against discrimination against a group you choose to hate

Gay Agenda Handbook

1.) When losing the argument, define the Heterosexual as a Hater"

 

[Behold]

by posting false claims

You are the proof the Gay Agenda exists., as quite a bit of that Document i posted is coming out of your mouth.

You're arguments that prove the GA exists, are much better then any doc i could post, but, i'll get around to it.

See you there. @TinMan

 

[CadyandZoe]

you complete lack of knowledge of even basic genetics is truly sad

I take this to mean that you have no actual rebuttal. Didn't you study Darwin in College? Maybe not. I don't affirm Darwinism, but I figured that you do, given your previous responses.

The following summary comes from Bing AI

The phrase "survival of the fittest" originates from Darwin's theory of natural selection, which describes how organisms that are best adapted to their environment are more successful in surviving and reproducing. The concept of fitness is defined as reproductive success, which depends on factors such as genetic variation, environmental challenges, and competition. The survival of the fittest is not a fixed state, but rather a dynamic process that changes over time and in different contexts. It does not imply that only the strongest or most intelligent survive, but rather those who can adapt to changing conditions and challenges are more likely to pass on their genes to the next generation.​

It seems that if orientation is innate, as you suggest, then it must be either divinely determined or biologically determined. However, there is no biblical evidence to support the idea that same-sex orientation is divinely determined, so I would reject that idea outright. Additionally, you have never suggested that God is the source of innate orientation, so let's move on from that topic.

The discussion often revolves around the presumed science of orientation, which is why I couched my argument in terms of the scientifically accepted view of attribute transmission. Let us assume that the orientation is determined by biology. For instance, suppose that a female is born with a mutated gene that causes her to be oriented towards another female. In that case, how can she pass on her genes to another female so that female-to-female orientation appears in subsequent generations? The truth is, she cannot. The mutation dies with her, and it will not be seen again. The only orientation able to survive and reproduce is male-female orientation.

Therefore, the concept of innate orientation is not tenable.

 

[CadyandZoe]

so you can't explain the double standard either

What "standard" did you have in mind?
Perhaps I was being a bit too literal, but I thought you might understand my point. Why does one shout?
To attract attention, To express strong emotions; To express strong opinions?

I'm sorry that I am forced to explain myself but I thought surely you might realize that sometimes we shout because the other person is nearly deaf. Jesus often punctuated his statements with an implied prayer, "He who has ears, let him hear."

 

[Wrangler]

because it's not an action...Finally you are catching on

But you are obstinantly NOT catching on. You cannot deem action as <not action> by merely calling it "being." Guess what? "ing" is suffix denoting action!

 

[CadyandZoe]

Do you only love your wife when you are having sex?

As Tina Turner sang, "What's love got to do with it?"

Napoleon was Napoleon long before he took up the sword and long after

Don't miss the point. Not every identity claim is self-authenticating. For this reason, interviewing people is not a reliable scientific method to determine sexual identity. Only sexual activity is a valid means to determine a person's identity.

Suppose you wanted to know which baby food is preferred by the majority of babies in the United States. Most likely the scientist would give each baby a sample of the baby foods and watch their reaction. Likewise, if a scientist is seeking which women are attracted to other women, the subject interview is inherently unreliable. Watching to see which sex she chooses to be her lover is a much more reliable course of investigation.

 

[CadyandZoe]

I guess you are dishonest enough .

Wow that is an amazing made up fact

and more made up stuff. How do you do it?

Nothing to say?

 

[BarneyFife]

Sorry this took so long. Had to take a couple of days off.

Wow. Good to hear.
Your whole post is OUTSTANDING. Thanks.

You're much too kind. You're also very welcome.

Saved from what?

From ourselves. We "do always resist the Holy Ghost." :cool:

If you ever find the perfect church, don't join it, or you'll ruin it. - LOL

I try not to upset the status quo but I seem to have some curse on me.

I wonder how much we project onto morality from our own western culture. The traditional aspect, I mean.

Definitely the "safe" route. But can be hazardous to some.

Perhaps later

We make some assumptions about sexuality in ancient cultures that may be totally wrong.

I assume that ancient cultures were depraved just like us.

Polygamy laws claim to be biblically based. Not sure if that is true.
A biblical case could be made for wives being personal property.
Should we go there because it's "biblical"? (nope)

If God had tried to straighten all the crooked thinking and practices of the Israelites at Sinai they would have about-faced and double-timed it straight back to Goshen.

God meets people where they are; revelation is progressive. That's what religious liberty is all about—gentlemanly wooing. And I'm a hopeless romantic.

It is interesting to note what He chose to address bluntly in the Torah and what He chose to mitigate and wink at.

That surprises me too. I appreciate that Colby is making a stand, but... leaves something to be desired.

I still like him.

AMEN
But who decides what that should look like?
There's the rub.

Unfortunately, with everyone's insistence on rights entitlement being all the rage, the squeakiest wheel gets to kid himself that he decides.

The LGBTQ crowd have become the leper outcasts as a result.

I disagree diametrically but not violently. I see the entire thing headed in the exact opposite direction, which is likely to prove both good and bad. Unfortunately, human nature being what it is, I fear it'll be mostly bad. And I'm also an optimist.

WWJD with LGBTQ?
Would he embrace them. or go after them with an angry whip?

I'd like to address this in your new thread but I guess I'll start here. I may have to repost some of this over there for continuity's sake.

I'd say He would definitely look upon them, loving them terribly, and might then just say "One thing thou lackest..." The rich young ruler had much property, so he went away sorrowing from Christ's invitation to follow him.

And if there's one thing most of mankind today is not willing to give up for Jesus, it's their sexuality, regardless of what color they paint it. It's something you don't have to work hard to earn or inherit by extraordinary privilege.

The main problem with sin of any kind is that it stems from people's nearly overwhelming desire to have something that it may not be God's will for them to have, which is why Satan has seen to it that covetousness is one of the commandments that is least heard about from today's church pulpits.

(In the case of the person who is always ready to condemn, the thing they want that is not God's will for them to have, by the way, is another person's free will.)

What God wants for His children is that they should be, and even feel, content and satisfied, even, and perhaps especially when things are not going their way.

Well, NOTHING happens in a vacuum.
Do you think gender identities would form differently in another social setting?
It seems to me that the stronger gender identity is in adults, the stronger it will be in children.
Daddy's girl and Mommy's boy is somewhat meaningless in a gender neutral environment.

I've watched every sympathetic documentary I could get my hands on (I even found one called "Seventh-Gay Adventists") and I still have no idea what "gender identity" or "sexual orientation" really means. I even had a long heart-to-heart with ChatGPT about it and he thinks he knows but he contradicts himself at every turn. I know his abilities are limited but, man, give me a break. And the almighty peer-reviewed research is soooo for sale to the highest bidder.

I had all kinds of fantasies when I was a kid, very, very few of which I ever realized and most of which I knew from the start I never would. But what I did gain in Christ was infinitely superior to any of them.

In one of the videos I posted of a mother's testimony, the picture of the daughter
wearing a carpenter's tool belt like Dad was very memorable.

I didn't get around to watching them, but I'm sure it's wondrous to behold (I've seen the pic in your new thread by now, and it is) and I certainly don't see anything wrong with such an image, especially if it isn't sexualized (and it isn't).

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[TinMan]

"homo-sexual" is defined as your minority you are supporting.
What defines a "homo-sexual"?

"Same gender fornication".

Only by someone obsessed with sex.

 

[TinMan]

Its in the Homosexual Agenda handbook..

23.) "Always say they are lying".. (No need to prove it.)

Except its really easy to show that hate groups are lying. Like in your "gay agenda" post all it took to show that a huge chunk of the quotes presented weren't in the supposed gay agenda at all.

24.) "When confronted, then say, "i did prove it".

That is Wrangler's trick.

 

[TinMan]

Gay Agenda Handbook

1.) When losing the argument, define the Heterosexual as a "hater".

Not loosing and the stuff you post about LGBT people is the very definition of hate.

 

[TinMan]

Gay Agenda Handbook

1.) When losing the argument, define the Heterosexual as a Hater"

One could ask just how what you posted is not hate but I imagine that you will claim that bigoted language and attacks on minorities is A) Truth. B) Love. C) the will of GOD

 

[TinMan]

You are the proof the Gay Agenda exists., as quite a bit of that Document i posted is coming out of your mouth.

You're arguments that prove the GA exists, are much better then any doc i could post, but, i'll get around to it.

See you there. @TinMan

will your "proof" be full of false quotes again?