Homosexuality: Wrong or Right?

[CadyandZoe]

Bi sexuality IS an orientation, and bisexuals don't change their orientation either.

Orientation is a compass direction. If one is facing north, he is not facing south. If someone is claiming that he faces both directions at the same time, then he needs therapy. Do you see how ridiculous is the concept of "orientation"?

It's not a behavior
it's inborn and unchanging like skin color

Skin color and other physical attributes are biologically determined through genetics. Only opposite-sex orientation survives into the next generation. Unless a male shares genetic material with a female, resulting in a child, mutations are unable to propagate.

 

[CadyandZoe]

So why are right wing Christians always shouting that there is only male and female?

We only shout at Left-wing Christians who deny the obvious.

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

There is such a thing as recovering homosexuals.

There is however such a thing as a delivered

That's someone who understands from God's Word that it's a sin and they repent... turn away from being a homo, asking God for forgiveness and then they live like a normal person not desiring the same sex in a sexual way.

 

[TinMan]

First of all, the shellfish, is OT, under the law.

But you just said God doesn't change his mind.

So, you are stuck in the wrong covenant, as well as in the Gay agenda

The NT said....>

1 Timothy 4:4-5 For everything God has created is good, and nothing is to be rejected if it is received with gratitude; for it is sanctified [set apart, dedicated to God] by means of the word of God and prayer.




Thank you for asking me again., and as you teach the gay agenda, @TinMan im not certain why you want me to post it again for you... but../

Here you go.

The GAY Agenda

1.) "“The first order of business is desensitization of the American public concerning gays and gay rights. To desensitize the public is to help it view homosexuality with indifference""""

Oh you're picking stuff form the book After the Ball -- How America will conquer its fear and hatred of Gays in the 1990's

If this is the agenda then it didn't work well as fear and hate are still running rampant

2. ) “The Overhauling of Straight America” as the “bible” of the homosexual agenda.'"

Says who?
Less that 20,000 copies of the book were ever printed. If it were what you are trying to claim it should be everywhere.

3. ) “almost any behavior begins to look normal if you are exposed to enough of it . . . The way to benumb raw sensitivities about homosexuality is to have a lot of people talk a great deal about the subject in a neutral or supportive way . . . Constant talk builds the impression that public opinion is at least divided on the subject, and that a sizable segment accepts or even practices homosexuality.
“And when we say talk about homosexuality, we mean just that. In the early stages of any campaign to reach straight America, the masses should not be shocked and repelled by premature exposure to homosexual behavior itself. Instead, the imagery of sex should be downplayed .""

A pretty concise way to deal with hate groups and perverts and their scheme to focus only on sex.

4.) '""When we are exposed to anything repeatedly, it becomes routine and normal. What initially might shock someone eventually can become acceptable. And acceptability is the ultimate goal. What at one time was highly offensive to the vast majority of Americans is now no big deal. They’ve been lulled into complacency."""

I wondered why you didn't provide a link the original. But since this quote doesn't appear anywhere in the work I'm going to guess you didn't want people actually checking things out for themselves. If anyone is interested here is the original document

5.) """Where we talk is important, The average American household watches over seven hours of TV daily. Those hours open up a gateway into the private world of straights, through which a Trojan horse might be passed . . .
“So far, gay Hollywood has provided our best covert weapon in the battle to desensitize the mainstream. Bit by bit over the past ten years, gay characters and gay themes have been introduced into TV programs and films . . . On the whole the impact has been encouraging.”

6.)'"When conservative churches condemn gays, there are only two things we can do to confound the homophobia of true believers. First, we can use talk to muddy the moral waters. This means publicizing support for gays by more moderate churches,"""

and by "exposing hatred and inconsistency."

7.) “In any campaign to win over the public, gays must be cast as victims in need of protection,”

LGBT people of that era were subjected to rampant discrimination in housing and employment and helath care. They needed and still need laws protecting them from people who hate

8.) "If gays are presented, instead, as a strong and prideful tribe promoting a rigidly nonconformist and deviant lifestyle, they are more likely to be seen as a public menace that justifies resistance and oppression. For that reason, we must forego the temptation to strut our ‘gay pride’ publicly when it conflicts with the = """Gay Victim image,”
“It almost goes without saying that groups on the farthest margin of acceptability such as NAMBLA [the North American Man-Boy Love Association,} which as its name suggests promotes adult-child homosexual sex] must play no part at all in such a campaign: suspected child-molesters will never look like victims . . .

You stopped before they got to the section on being national advocates to prevent child abuse. I wonder why

9.) “At a later stage of the media campaign for gay rights . . . it will be time to get tough with remaining opponents. To be blunt, they must be vilified . . . Our goal here is twofold. First, we seek to replace the mainstream’s homophobia with shame and guilt. Second, we intend to make the anti-gays look so nasty that average Americans will want to dissociate themselves from such types”

Totally unnecessary homophobes do a fine job of being nasty and repugnant all on their own.

“We’ll convert your children – happens bit by bit, quietly and subtly and you will barely notice it…”
“Just like you’re worried, they’ll change their group of friends, you won’t approve of where they go at night. And you’ll be disgusted when they start finding things online that you kept far from their sight…”

This quote also doesn't appear in the actual document.

 

[TinMan]

I am a little surprised you are doing another lap on this false track. No one cares how you feel (orientation). Where you put your genitals is a choice and choice is the proper domain of morality.

Is that what you are claiming that butchered 8 year old boy was doing?

 

[Behold]

But you just said God doesn't change his mind.

God is the same, but His revelation is progressive.

He never changes His Mind but He does change covenants, seasons, etc.

Here is something interesting about that..

In Genesis, God destroyed a city of Homosexuals, and also flooded the world to do the same.
That's Old Testament, God.
In the New Testament, you have Romans , chapter one, and once again this perversion of "men burning to be with other men", and like wise the women........is an "Abomination" in the NT< just like it was in the OT.

So, that does not change, even tho Lady GaGa told you that they were "Born this way".

You might reconsider the message you preach, as She didnt write the Scriptures.

 

[Behold]

Oh you're picking stuff form the book After the Ball -- How America will conquer its fear and hatred of Gays in the 1990's

Tomorrow im going to post it as a Thread., and probably more.

As it shows the mind of the Homosexual agenda.

Its your mind, actually.

 

[TinMan]

That's not true. There is such a thing as recovering homosexuals.

Remember the ex-gay pride march held in Washington DC? No one else does either.
here is a picture of everyone who showed up. (the guy in blue was one of two reporters there. )

By the way none of those people were ex-gay

 

[TinMan]

Your definition is invalid. There is no such thing as "being" an action.

because it's not an action...Finally you are catching on

 

[Behold]

A pretty concise way to deal with hate groups and perverts and their scheme to focus only on sex.

"Perverted sexuality" is what defines a "homo-sexual".

Didn't you know?

LGBT people of that era were subjected to rampant discrimination

You are now performing the Gay agenda.

You are casting the homosexual as the "Victim".

Apparently, you memorized the book, and that document i showed you, some months ago.

You stopped before they got to the section on being national advocates to prevent child abuse.

Child abuse has more branches.. then just being recruited into the homosexual lifestyle by older Homosexuals through seduction, deceit, media, and music.

Totally unnecessary homophobes do a fine job of being nasty and repugnant all on their own.

Im not homophobic.

I see homosexuals as they are, and i make no excuses for their alt sexual lifestyle choices.
I have much compassion for their lifelong suffering, but i have zero tolerance for Gay Agenda supporters like you, @TinMan .
And i do mean "zero".

 

[TinMan]

Again, you do know that homosexuality is a sin according to the Bible, right?

so you are saying 8 year old Gabriel was evil and provoked his own murder because he was having gay sex

 

[Behold]

Remember the ex-gay pride march held in Washington DC? No one else does either.
here is a picture of everyone who showed up. (the guy in blue was one of two reporters there. )

By the way none of those people were ex-gay

What i remember is the Vulgar evening in the USA when the Dem Party's Fake Savior.... Barak Obama... decided to blaspheme (Spit on) the White House using these Pride colors..

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[TinMan]

So you say. However, orientation is a meaningless, empty concept without sexual activity.

Do you only love your wife when you are having sex?

A man can claim to be Napoleon, but if he isn't engaged in conquering much of Europe, who cares? Understand?

Napoleon was Napoleon long before he took up the sword and long after

Consider the Apostle James who argued that faith without works is dead, meaning inactive. A man might claim to have faith but apart from actions that are indicative of faith, claims of faith are empty claims. Likewise, someone may claim to be oriented toward male, female or both, but unless they commit themselves through action, the point is moot, i.e. debatable.

But as I say, this debate is not concerned with ontology or metaphysics. The question on the table is concerned with actions that God approves or doesn't approve. I understand that you want to talk about individuals who are sexually or romantically attracted exclusively to people of one's own sex or gender. I get that. But that isn't the topic of discussion. The talk is about putting such attractions into practice. It's not a question of whether someone is attracted to their own sex; The talk is about the thing done to satisfy the desire or need.

Does pretending all this help you justify hate or violence towards LGBT people?

 

[TinMan]

It's not valid concerning the question of innate orientation for obvious reasons.

I guess you are dishonest enough .

Contrary to your opinion, a person's sexual orientation changes several times as they mature to adulthood because the child is learning about his or her world. As sympathy and empathy develop, the child engages in role-playing activities in search of what it must be like from another person's point of view. If the child is allowed to mature to adulthood, the child will be attracted to the opposite sex in preparation for the process of reproduction.

Wow that is an amazing made up fact

In some children, due to a traumatic experience or some other significant event, the child gets "stuck" and doesn't advance to the next stage of development. Individuals are not born into same-sex orientation, they are stuck there, unable to fully mature.

and more made up stuff. How do you do it?

 

[TinMan]

Orientation is a compass direction. If one is facing north, he is not facing south. If someone is claiming that he faces both directions at the same time, then he needs therapy. Do you see how ridiculous is the concept of "orientation"?

Skin color and other physical attributes are biologically determined through genetics. Only opposite-sex orientation survives into the next generation. Unless a male shares genetic material with a female, resulting in a child, mutations are unable to propagate.

you complete lack of knowledge of even basic genetics is truly sad

 

[TinMan]

We only shout at Left-wing Christians who deny the obvious.

so you can't explain the double standard either

 

[TinMan]

God is the same, but His revelation is progressive.

you must be dizzy form putting that big a spin on it

 

[TinMan]

Tomorrow im going to post it as a Thread., and probably more.

As it shows the mind of the Homosexual agenda.

Its your mind, actually.

Will you be including all the quotes that don't actually appear in the work?

 

[Behold]

you must be dizzy form putting that big a spin on it

You must be tired of carrying that Gay Agenda on your back.

 

[Behold]

Will you be including all the quotes that don't actually appear in the work?

Well, i'll have to decide later what i'll post tomorrow.

But as of today, what i posted is the insight into the mind of the demonic gay agenda.

The last Quote on my GA Post, is different material... as was that very long Document, regarding the Gay agenda, that i gave you, some months ago.

Wait till tomorrow, and if i cant get to it tomorrow, i will soon enough.

For now, the people who are of the Truth, will read it, and they will become more enlightened.
You can't stop that with your G-agenda arguments, @TinMan .
Believe it.