Homosexuality: Wrong or Right?

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amigo de christo

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The difference is the conservatives are not actively trying to destroy Christianity in the US and turn this nation in to a one party communist state like the dems are.

I agree that the conservatives are misguided on some things and are not representing the will of God... but they are head and shoulders above the democrats if so no other reason they haven't made murdering innocent little babies a cornerstone of their party.
You mean its not seen as well . Try reading the religous tolerance act . THEY ARE WORKING ON DESTROYING
BIBLICAL CHRISANITY and that is a fact . THEY as guilty as the dems ever were on that .
This religous tolerance act . IT WONT BE TOLERANTING BIBLICAL CHRISTANITY ONE BIT . YOU GO and read it .
THEY just know how to sell the lie to conservatives is all , just like the liberals knew how to sell the lie to their own .
ITS real bad now my friend . The abraham peace accords , YEAH DONT BUY INTO IT
POPE francis the most liberal of all popes MAY AS WELL have wrote it . THIS STUFF has been invading christanity
and all false religoins FOR YEARS NOW . for years . BIBLE TIME my friend . BIBLE TIME .
Be encouraged , you are not being attacked at all by me . I simply speak forth the words of truth
to you and to all . WE GOTTA GET BACK in the BIBLE FOR OURSELVES . many have crept within christanity
to DECIEVE . and that be a fact .
 
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amigo de christo

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So, so far, in terms of avoiding the fairness/incredulity/projection template:

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IT will all come crashing down on the DAY of the LORD . only its gonna be much worse for those who rejected GOD
CHRIST , the biblcal truth than just a mere falling and a shelf landing upon one . ITS TIME THE LAMBS BIBLE UP and learn
THAT GOD , HIS CHRIST and er lovely word the SPIRIT inspired through them apostels as well .
 

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Unless you count communist babies.

Children have to be taught communism... they didn't pop out of they momma's womb a communist.

God did not put communism in them so they learn it after arriving on Club Earth.


THEY just know how to sell the lie to conservatives is all , just like the liberals knew how to sell the lie to their own .

Well, bottom line is those that aren't daily abiding in Christ putting what God says first... are ripe for deception and since most conservatives aren't doing this 'ol slewfgoot does have inroads with conservatives.

But, not all sins are the same... the dems support things are are abomination unto the Lord so they very obviously have the greater sin.
 
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amigo de christo

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Children have to be taught communism... they didn't pop out of they momma's womb a communist.

God did not put communism in them so they learn it after arriving on Club Earth.




Well, bottom line is those that aren't daily abiding in Christ putting what God says first... are ripe for deception and since most conservatives aren't doing this 'ol slewfgoot does have inroads with conservatives.

But, not all sins are the same... the dems support things are are abomination unto the Lord so they very obviously have the greater sin.
anyone who cometh in the name of CHRIST and yet cometh to decieve , THEY THE ONES WITH THE GREATER SIN .
and both sides are doing it . The dems are only worse in abortion and transgendersim .
The conservatives seem to be worse on the LOVE OF MONEY PROSPERITY GOSPEL .
and yet both sides are buying the ultimate lie that will SOON UNIFY THEM AS ONE .
Lets get dug deep in that bible my dear friend .
 

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What goalposts have been shifted?

I mean aside from your goalpost shift when you dismissed a modest collection of research showing that experiencing hate, discrimination and minority stress over extended periods of time result in significantly higher instances of mental health problems and change the goal post with "There is no valid evidence that being the target of hate and discrimination directly causes mental health problems." You remind me of tobacco companies still insisting that there is no DIRECT evidence that smoking causes cancer.

And you moved the goal post again when you ignored the original false claim and the discussion and tried to derail things with "The Bible makes no false claims about homosexuality."

And you are back to saying LBGT people are sick.

Labeling them "confused" also helps to belittle them and diminish them




Labeling them "confused" is a nice way of diminishing, belittling and dehumanizing them.



They happen a lot and dismissing that suffering isn't compassion by any stretch of the imagination

Because they are sick


You are doing it right here, so not my imagination

You keep posting how you want an honest forthright discussion...but then you post things like this.
Funny that true Christians suffer in this world in much the same ways, except we do have the Lord to encourage and lift us up when we need it.

But look around you - all kinds of people suffer in all kinds of ways in this world. It's because the world is in a sinful fallen state and lies under the wrath of God because of it. Sin of all kinds has consequences...it opens the door to the devil who only comes to steal, kill and destroy. However this thread is about whether or not homosexual relations is sinful. And the simple answer is yes of course it is. But as believers we are all exhorted and admonished, warned and instructed the same regardless of our particular brand of sinning. For example:

1Th 4:1-8

Furthermore then we beseech you, brethren, and exhort you by the Lord Jesus, that as ye have received of us how ye ought to walk and to please God, so ye would abound more and more.

For ye know what commandments we gave you by the Lord Jesus.

For this is the will of God, even your sanctification, that ye should abstain from fornication:

That every one of you should know how to possess his vessel in sanctification and honour;

Not in the lust of concupiscence, even as the Gentiles which know not God:

That no man go beyond and defraud his brother in any matter: because that the Lord is the avenger of all such, as we also have forewarned you and testified.

For God hath not called us unto uncleanness, but unto holiness.

He therefore that despiseth, despiseth not man, but God, who hath also given unto us his holy Spirit.
 

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When he was 8 years old Gabriel Fernandez's (google him) parents observed his effeminate behavior and identified him as a homosexual. Over the next several weeks Gabrial was subjected to what I personally call hate and discrimination...and torture I recognize you will disagree. He was repeatedly asphyxiated, beaten with electrical wires bound, gagged and kept in a dog kennel. Burned with cigarettes, denied food for days in a row and when there was food he was forced to eat cat feces and rotting floor. If he threw it up he was forced to lick it all up and eat it again. When he tried to run out of the door he was shot with a BB gun. In the end he was thrown repeatedly against the wall until he went unconscious where his loving parent proceeded to kick and shake him. He dies of blunt force trauma to the head. The Autopsy revealed he had over 20 broken bones from this last beating and the coroner estimates that he was kicked in the head over 40 times.

Now i recognize you will view his parents as heroes, but can you tell me just what EVIL Gabriel did?
Wow, I'm sure nobody here would advocate for what happened to that child....no true Christian in their right mind would. You are falsely accusing and conflating issues.
 

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Well that's a given as God's Word teaches about the coming one world government and religion...
BINGO . the one world religoin IS what is taking captive BOTH SIDES NOW . That is what i am seeing move in very fast .
THIS IS what is unifying them more and more under what they think is GOD and LOVE . only ITS NIETHER .
 
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Only if it weren't true. But it IS true that homosexuals degrade each other, which is among the many reasons they suffer from depression, substance abuse and suicide.

And remember, I don't recognize homosexuality as a minority as you do. I have repeated quite often that homosexuality is a behavior, not an innate attribute of humanity. The homosexual act itself is degrading.
This isn't true and again if you were saying this about anyone else it would rightly be called bigotry.
 

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Wow, I'm sure nobody here would advocate for what happened to that child....no true Christian in their right mind would. You are falsely accusing and conflating issues.
Sadly you are wrong. My neighbors Steve and Jake have a locked file cabinet full of the death threats made to their three children.
 
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Sadly you are wrong. My neighbors Steve and Jake have a locked file cabinet full of the death threats made to their three children.
Not by true Christians I'm sure. Maybe by some who call themselves Christians, but are not. Violence is not the answer, the gospel is. (For those who are willing, at least. For those who are not, the Lord will judge in the end.)
 

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Still waiting to find out just what evil 8 year old Gariel did
Going by the parents' horrendous abusiveness, it's a safe bet this must have been a family with serious problems to start with and that is probably the reason, sadly, why their son was beginning to exhibit those signs of what I call maladaptive coping. But what people can't understand without knowing the Lord, is the spiritual aspect of this and how the devil is involved in maladaptive coping of all kinds.....but God in His mercy has provided a way to be forgiven and cleansed of our sins through the gospel and to begin getting free of the snare we walked into.
 
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