Here is why, as an Adventist, I believe America is in Trouble.

[David in NJ]

Why dont you try Friday with the Muslims, would you do that instead of Sunday, of course not. Thats why you have to go by Gods Word, not your own ideas or private interpretation...

Muslims are not my Brethren in Christ.
To suggest fellowship/worship with them is SIN and contrary to the Gospel.

i am going ONLY by God's words.

Attempting to keep the law is AGAINST God's words = Romans 10:4

 

[Hobie]

Muslims are not my Brethren in Christ.
To suggest fellowship/worship with them is SIN and contrary to the Gospel.

i am going ONLY by God's words.

Attempting to keep the law is AGAINST God's words = Romans 10:4

Oh, but the pagans of Rome are....dont you see the contradiction...

 

[David in NJ]

Oh, but the pagans of Rome are....dont you see the contridiction...

i invite you to walk together with Christ and myself in His word.

Acts 20:7 - "On the first day of the week we came together to break bread."
The Apostle Paul saw no heresy or paganism in fellowshipping in Christ on sunday.

Did the Apostles make sunday the New sabbath day = NOPE

But they did say there no longer remains a saturday sabbath that must be kept.

Colossians 2:16-19
So let no one judge you in food or in drink, or regarding a festival or a new moon or sabbaths, which are a shadow of things to come, but the substance is of Christ. Let no one cheat you of your reward, taking delight in false humility and worship of angels, intruding into those things which he has not seen, vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind, and not holding fast to the Head, from whom all the body, nourished and knit together by joints and ligaments, grows with the increase that is from God.

 

[David in NJ]

Oh, but the pagans of Rome are....dont you see the contradiction...

i was raised RCC so i know all about their paganistic ways.

In His Mercy, Christ called me to "come out of her My People" = and i did

Neither is sunday a holy day to me EXCEPT in this = Christ Rose on the third day

i place no emphasis on one day over another since CHRIST is the Fulfillment of Sabbath REST

 

[BarneyFife]

The only Way to prove you are Saved only by the Righteousness of God thru Jesus Christ is for you to stop gathering on saturday and to gather on another day of the week - take your pick!

But if you really want to demonstrate that your faith is in Christ and Him alone then gather on sunday.

Unless you believe gathering on sunday is sin!
Which, if you do or if your SDA believes it is, then you are no longer submitted to Christ but rather to men and religion.

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It's pretty obvious by now that you're ignoring me but this is off-the-charts crazy talk.

It's like someone demanding that you prove your salvation by murdering someone.

You've taken leave of your senses.
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[Hobie]

i invite you to walk together with Christ and myself in His word.

Acts 20:7 - "On the first day of the week we came together to break bread."
The Apostle Paul saw no heresy or paganism in fellowshipping in Christ on sunday.

Did the Apostles make sunday the New sabbath day = NOPE

But they did say there no longer remains a saturday sabbath that must be kept.

Colossians 2:16-19
So let no one judge you in food or in drink, or regarding a festival or a new moon or sabbaths, which are a shadow of things to come, but the substance is of Christ. Let no one cheat you of your reward, taking delight in false humility and worship of angels, intruding into those things which he has not seen, vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind, and not holding fast to the Head, from whom all the body, nourished and knit together by joints and ligaments, grows with the increase that is from God.

Need to read your Bible my brother...
Revelation 22:14
Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.

 

[Hobie]

i was raised RCC so i know all about their paganistic ways.

In His Mercy, Christ called me to "come out of her My People" = and i did

Neither is sunday a holy day to me EXCEPT in this = Christ Rose on the third day

i place no emphasis on one day over another since CHRIST is the Fulfillment of Sabbath REST

And rested on the Sabbath, well at least you picked up part of it...

 

[Hobie]

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It's pretty obvious by now that you're ignoring me but this is off-the-charts crazy talk.

It's like someone demanding that you prove your salvation by murdering someone.

You've taken leave of your senses.
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What can you do, we are near the end, and many just hold on to the devils deception.....

 

[David in NJ]

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It's pretty obvious by now that you're ignoring me but this is off-the-charts crazy talk.

It's like someone demanding that you prove your salvation by murdering someone.

You've taken leave of your senses.
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Not at all. But is interesting and specific to see where your faith lies!

If you feel that it is sin to worship any other day then as under the old covenant, would that not show your propensity to remain in a place that Christ came to set us FREE from?

Does not SDA teach that sunday worship is sin and those who do so remain in sin and death.

The Word of God declares 'Liberty' from the law of sin and death.
This is Where and in Whom i place my faith.

 

[David in NJ]

And rested on the Sabbath, well at least you picked up part of it...

Everyday is the Sabbath REST of God if you are in Christ.

For CHRIST is the WHOLENESS, COMPLETENESS and very ESSENCE of it

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

Does not SDA teach that sunday worship is sin and those who do so remain in sin and death.

Many of therm actually teach this... and others don't seem to be towing the SDA party line claiming it's not a sin.

 

[David in NJ]

Many of therm actually teach this... and others don't seem to be towing the SDA party line claiming it's not a sin.

It is called 'Double Speak'

When under duration they must adhere to SDA teaching.

When not in their presence they can deny SDA teaching.

BETTER then SDA is C7DR

 

[BarneyFife]

Not at all. But is interesting and specific to see where your faith lies!

If you feel that it is sin to worship any other day then as under the old covenant, would that not show your propensity to remain in a place that Christ came to set us FREE from?

Does not SDA teach that sunday worship is sin and those who do so remain in sin and death.

The Word of God declares 'Liberty' from the law of sin and death.
This is Where an din Whom i place my faith.

Who said it's a sin to worship on any day? Where are you getting this stuff?
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[David in NJ]

Who said it's a sin to worship on any day? Where are you getting this stuff?
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The SDA teach that the divine institution of the Sabbath is to be restored. They believe that the delivering of this message will precipitate a conflict that will involve the whole world. The central issue will be obedience to God’s law and the observance of the Sabbath. Further, they believe that those who reject it will eventually receive the mark of the beast. In one of her most revered works, Ellen White wrote that Sabbath observance would be the “line of distinction” in the “final test” that will separate God’s end-time people who “receive the seal of God” and are saved, from those who “receive the mark of the beast” (The Great Controversy Between Christ and Satan, p. 605). Describing a supposed vision direct from God, Ellen White wrote, “I saw that the Holy Sabbath is, and will be, the separating wall between the true Israel of God and unbelievers.”

 

[BarneyFife]

The SDA teach that the divine institution of the Sabbath is to be restored. They believe that the delivering of this message will precipitate a conflict that will involve the whole world. The central issue will be obedience to God’s law and the observance of the Sabbath. Further, they believe that those who reject it will eventually receive the mark of the beast. In one of her most revered works, Ellen White wrote that Sabbath observance would be the “line of distinction” in the “final test” that will separate God’s end-time people who “receive the seal of God” and are saved, from those who “receive the mark of the beast” (The Great Controversy Between Christ and Satan, p. 605). Describing a supposed vision direct from God, Ellen White wrote, “I saw that the Holy Sabbath is, and will be, the separating wall between the true Israel of God and unbelievers.”

She also said the stuff in this post (link)

 

[BarneyFife]

The SDA teach that the divine institution of the Sabbath is to be restored. They believe that the delivering of this message will precipitate a conflict that will involve the whole world. The central issue will be obedience to God’s law and the observance of the Sabbath. Further, they believe that those who reject it will eventually receive the mark of the beast. In one of her most revered works, Ellen White wrote that Sabbath observance would be the “line of distinction” in the “final test” that will separate God’s end-time people who “receive the seal of God” and are saved, from those who “receive the mark of the beast” (The Great Controversy Between Christ and Satan, p. 605). Describing a supposed vision direct from God, Ellen White wrote, “I saw that the Holy Sabbath is, and will be, the separating wall between the true Israel of God and unbelievers.”

Big Troll is having a great time getting you all worked up, Dave. You gonna let him do that to you?

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

Describing a supposed vision direct from God, Ellen White wrote, “I saw that the Holy Sabbath is, and will be, the separating wall between the true Israel of God and unbelievers.”

Yep, false doctrine thru visions... Ellen G White is right up there with Joseph Smith and Mary Baker Eddy all of who claimed they had more accurate doctrine that the early church did in the Book of Acts

 

[David in NJ]

She also said the stuff in this post (link)

She is not to be trusted as she broke the #1 Rule of Law = "Adding to God's words what HE never said"

Any person that claims to have new 'revelation' from God has been deceived.

God FINISHED speaking thru His Son, the Apostles and finally Revelation.

Just as Christ Finished the Work of God when He died on the Cross and said: "IT IS FINISHED"

We, Barney & David, are only to place ALL of our confidence in the words of God.

 

[BarneyFife]

She is not to be trusted

Unless her words can be used to condemn an entire denomination, right?

You and Big Troll have yourselves a good time, now, you hear?

 

[David in NJ]

Unless her words can be used to condemn an entire denomination, right?

You and Big Troll have yourselves a good time, now, you hear?

Unless her words can be used to condemn an entire denomination, right?

i do not know what you mean by this BUT no denomination has any standing with God = only the Gospel

God searches our hearts and He sees your faith in Christ which is what saves us Barney.

You KNOW this Barney = so do not take offense to what your Brothers and Sisters in Christ are sharing with you about this woman.

Barney, she died in 1915. Where you even born then?

Here is the commandment of the Lord Jesus Christ = Matthew 28:18-20

And Jesus came and spoke to them, saying, “All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth.
Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all things that I have commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age.” Amen.

i use to listen to John McArthur when i was first saved but i have since moved on to higher ground.
Now i listen to anyone who speaks the Truth from the Word.