Halloween is a satanic festival

[teamventure]

Where do you draw the line?
Should I give up my pumpkin spice coffee?
Pumpkins are used to make Jack-O-Lanterns.

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I think you know the answer and you're making up ridiculous examples as an excuse.

 

[St. SteVen]

Satanists believe by dressing up you mark your children as belonging to satan.

Why would the beliefs of a Satanist override the beliefs of the parents?
Or the authority of the parents, for that matter.

I'm not trying to be argumentative, I just want to understand.

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[St. SteVen]

I think you know the answer and you're making up ridiculous examples as an excuse.

The question still stands. Where do you draw the line?

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[St. SteVen]

That would not be the same as particpating in the same celebration that has the same name not just the same date. You are being intellectually dishonest.

I'm being intellectually dishonest?

I had a similar discussion with Sabbatarians.
They claim that if I worship on the sungod day, that I am worshiping the sungod.
Do you agree with them? They call Sunday the sungod day. Pagan, pagan...

What are you saying?
If I take my children trick-or-treating, that I am aligning myself with Satanists.
What's the difference?

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[teamventure]

Why would the beliefs of a Satanist override the beliefs of the parents?
Or the authority of the parents, for that matter.

I'm not trying to be argumentative, I just want to understand.

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That's a good question.
The authority we have in the blood of Christ is greater so a child belongs to God and participating doesn't change ownership for Christians, however it gives satan a place in the childrens lives.

 

[teamventure]

The question still stands. Where do you draw the line?

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Eating leftover halloween candy would be akin to eating meat sacrificed to idols which is meaningless and if prayed over is safe.
Having a pumpkin spice latte is already meaningless.
It's not the same as making a jackolantern which is partaking.
You're being imature by forcing a question of a pumpkin spice latte.

 

[teamventure]

I'm being intellectually dishonest?

I had a similar discussion with Sabbatarians.
They claim that if I worship on the sungod day, that I am worshiping the sungod.
Do you agree with them? They call Sunday the sungod day. Pagan, pagan...

What are you saying?
If I take my children trick-or-treating, that I am aligning myself with Satanists.
What's the difference?

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Obviously I don't agree with them. I have already implied that it's a silly notion. Why do you even need to ask?

Every day is made by God and is neutral within itself.
Trick or treating is a copy of a satanic ritual.

See the obvious differences?

 

[TLHKAJ]

Why would the beliefs of a Satanist override the beliefs of the parents?
Or the authority of the parents, for that matter.

I'm not trying to be argumentative, I just want to understand.

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Because the parents are knowingly engaging in something that is dark. And to deny that is a lie. They know it's dark and they are drawn to the darkness, and bring their children into it. That gives satan permissions of all sorts into those children's lives.

 

[teamventure]

Because the parents are knowingly engaging in something that is dark. And to deny that is a lie. They know it's dark and they are drawn to the darkness, and bring their children into it. That gives satan permissions of all sorts into those children's lives.

Bottom line sister.

 

[TinMan]

It was pagan and evil all about dressing up as evil spirits and leaving treats for them.

you might want to look up what you are talking about. Muming and guising were traditions where young adults would dress as spirits of their family members and go door to door collecting food for the communal feast. Harvest celebration means lots of food and at the start of winter was a time of remembering loved ones who had passed

And the druids were even worse making sacrifices to samhain. But ya, why don't you just omit those facts and call it just a harvest party. That's dishonest.

Samhain was the name of the month not a deity, It translates as reunion and assembly.

 

[St. SteVen]

You're being imature by forcing a question of a pumpkin spice latte.

Get over it already.

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[Rella ~ I am a woman]

St. SteVen said:
Why would the beliefs of a Satanist override the beliefs of the parents?
Or the authority of the parents, for that matter.

I'm not trying to be argumentative, I just want to understand.

That's a good question.
The authority we have in the blood of Christ is greater so a child belongs to God and participating doesn't change ownership for Christians, however it gives satan a place in the childrens lives.

Look, I think @teamventure is correct on this one.

How much easier will it be for a Satanist to control children now that they are being taken out of the hands of their parents when the teachers are given control over the childrens
sexual orientations, and the parents are not allowed to know... or a teacher will cover for an abortion so the parents don't know either.

I had always heard that you do not want to have anything within your home or view anything that would be occultish because you just might unaware give an invite.

Speaking only for myself,and my own experiences with things that go bump in the night
(NO I don't expect you to believe me) I error on the side of caution.

But then , can there really be anything to any kind of a tie in with anything Satanic and Halloween? After all, it was my old church who set up a haunted house in the original church which dates back to the 1790s (a new one was built)... and kids from all the surrounding churches participated.

Of course, that church split and in the split ( going woke) they could not ever get enough members
to to keep either of the church buildings.... So, we who left, after years of being blocked were able to buy it back.

Coincidence? Who knows?

But they were the ones who lost.

 

[Cassandra]

Look, I think @teamventure is correct on this one.

How much easier will it be for a Satanist to control children now that they are being taken out of the hands of their parents when the teachers are given control over the childrens
sexual orientations, and the parents are not allowed to know... or a teacher will cover for an abortion so the parents don't know either.

I had always heard that you do not want to have anything within your home or view anything that would be occultish because you just might unaware give an invite.

Speaking only for myself,and my own experiences with things that go bump in the night
(NO I don't expect you to believe me) I error on the side of caution.

But then , can there really be anything to any kind of a tie in with anything Satanic and Halloween? After all, it was my old church who set up a haunted house in the original church which dates back to the 1790s (a new one was built)... and kids from all the surrounding churches participated.

Of course, that church split and in the split ( going woke) they could not ever get enough members
to to keep either of the church buildings.... So, we who left, after years of being blocked were able to buy it back.

Coincidence? Who knows?

But they were the ones who lost.

(An aside You were able to get back the 1790s church? I bet it is beautiful)

 

[Rella ~ I am a woman]

(An aside You were able to get back the 1790s church? I bet it is beautiful)

Unfortunately when they built the new church the old one was used for administrative stuff and
it needs soooooooooo much work, it is a shame.

While we were not there any longer, they.. the Presbytery rented out the old church to some kind of a start up church no one ever heard of.... I think they had a membership of like 35 or 40. (We were the majority but had to leave???) and the minority got to keep things....

The new church was given over to those who wanted to stay with the original ("woke")(using that term as it may not be 100% accurate but more that way then another.)(Especially in light of the summer in the 1990 when they were re-imagining God and studying the Goddess Sophia)

Anyway.. I am sure in its day it was quite charming.

Also the church cemetary is right next door and people can still be buried there.

 

[TLHKAJ]

(Especially in light of the summer in the 1990 when they were re-imagining God and studying the Goddess Sophia)

Wow!! I don't believe they can even call themselves Christian anymore. They're more of a cult. So sad....!

 

[TinMan]

Look, I think @teamventure is correct on this one.

How much easier will it be for a Satanist to control children now that they are being taken out of the hands of their parents when the teachers are given control over the childrens
sexual orientations,

Control? Do you think there is a toggle switch or something?

Sexual orientations aren't controlled any more than skin color or right/left handedness

and the parents are not allowed to know...

Part of Florida's don't say gay law was the provision that educators and counselors has no choice but to out any LGBT child to their parent. Even if there is every reason to believe that such outing would endanger the child. About a third of LGBT kids are physically abused by their parents after their parents find out and that number skyrockets in homes of religious fundamentalists to 80%.

 

[Rella ~ I am a woman]

Wow!! I don't believe they can even call themselves Christian anymore. They're more of a cult. So sad....!

Well, my memory was off a couple of years.... check out these links.

Basically these are Presbyterian USA. (Our chuch split from the, and is now an Evangelical Presbyterian

Denomination promotes 'ReImagining God' - The Presbyterian Lay Committee

Despite a declaration by the 1994 General Assembly that “ReImagining God” ideologies were beyond the bounds of the Christian faith, the Presbyterian Church (USA) is listing “ReImagining” resources on the denomination’s web site.

The “ReImagining” material – including transcripts of eight speeches at the 1993 event – is part of the PCUSA’s “Unity in the Midst of Diversity” information. The speeches are listed under resources provided by Church & Society, a magazine published by the National Ministries Division.

Feminist theologian calls for 're-imagining Christ' - The Presbyterian Lay Committee

PASADENA, Calif. – The Covenant Network of Presbyterians opened its 2001 Conference in Pasadena on Nov. 1 by urging an estimated 300 people to make diversity and inclusiveness a reality by ending the Presbyterian Church (USA)’s ban on the ordination of self-affirming, practicing homosexuals.

Fallout Escalates over ‘Goddess’ Sophia Worship

Ecumenical conferences often come and go with little notice.But the fallout from last fall’s “Re-Imagining” event has continued to escalate as more people have discovered the depth of its unorthodox feminist ...

www.christianitytoday.com

Fallout Escalates over ‘Goddess’ Sophia Worship​

Ecumenical conferences often come and go with little notice.

But the fallout from last fall’s “Re-Imagining” event has continued to escalate as more people have discovered the depth of its unorthodox feminist worship and teaching.

During one session, a controversial incantation was used, including the words: “Our maker, Sophia, we are women in your image, with the hot blood of our wombs we give form to new life … with nectar between our thighs we invite a lover … with our warm body fluids we remind the world of its pleasures and sensations.”

From Father God to Mother Earth - The Presbyterian Lay Committee

From Father God to Mother Earth​

“God is going to change. We women will change the world so much that He
won’t fit anymore.” 1 (Naomi Goldenberg in Changing of the Gods: Feminism
and the End of Traditional Religions)

_”I am the Goddess! We are the Goddess!”_2 (About 700 women dancing around a
totem pole in Mankato, Minnesota)

_”While women sleep the earth shall sleep. But listen! We are waking up and
rising, and soon our sister will know her strength. The earth-moving day is
here.”_ 3 (Alla Bozareth-Campbell, Episcopal priest, 1974)

_”Religion and culture are ever changing, ever transforming We are the
transformer, maker and creator of our own religious and cultural
traditions.”_ 4 (Women, Religion, and Culture: seminar, Beijing Conference)

https://chalcedon.edu › resources › articles › the-march-of-sophia

The March of "Sophia" (Part IV) - Chalcedon​

Revelation 22:18-19. This fall, a Lutheran church in San Francisco hopes to enlist 18 women to go on a "Goddess Pilgrimage to Crete": "Feel Her power in the holy mountians [sic], sense Her mysteries in the darkness of the caves, pour libations of milk and honey on Minoan altars. Contact a sacred energy that

Sophia & her three daughters: Faith, Hope, and Love - Greek Orthodox Archdiocese of America - Orthodox Church

www.goarch.org

1. Saints and Feasts

Sophia & her three daughters: Faith, Hope, and Love​

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These Saints were from Italy and contested for the Faith about the year 126, during the reign of the Emperor Hadrian. Faith was twelve years old, Hope, ten, and Love, nine; each was tormented and then beheaded, from the eldest to the youngest. Their mother Sophia mourned at their grave for three days, where she also fell asleep in peace; because of her courageous endurance in the face of her daughters' sufferings, she is also counted a martyr. The name Sophia means "wisdom" in Greek; as for her daughters' names, Faith, Hope, and Love (Charity), they are Pistis, Elpis, and Agape in Greek, and Vera, Nadezhda, and Lyubov in Russian.

Apolytikion of Martyrs Sophia, Pistis, Elpis & Agape​

Fourth Tone​

O Lord Jesus, unto Thee Thy lamb doth cry with a great voice: O my Bridegroom, Thee I love; and seeking Thee, I now contest, and with Thy baptism am crucified and buried. I suffer for Thy sake, that I may reign with Thee; for Thy sake I die, that I may live in Thee: accept me offered out of longing to Thee as a spotless sacrifice. Lord, save our souls through her intercessions, since Thou art great in mercy.

PCUSA: The Wrong Side of Eternity

The church in drag is here Not content in some quarters with God s design, she seeks a gender change to become an artificial creation of man s vain imagination But it s not a good look

www.christianpost.com

PCUSA: The Wrong Side of Eternity​

By Linda Harvey, CP Op-Ed Contributor

The church in drag is here. Not content in some quarters with God's design, she seeks a gender change to become an artificial creation of man's vain imagination. But it's not a good look.

The progressive Christian bandwagon has a rainbow flag, men in pink feather boas, and Democratic Party politicians. And as certain apostate churches jump on, I think Jesus might be jumping off.

The Presbyterian Church USA is now fully on board with same-sex "marriages," a decision made at its recent meeting in Detroit. This wayward group already embraced homosexual clergy several years back. The recent General Assembly meeting also voted down defending babies born alive in spite of attempted abortion-i.e., this denomination is in the same camp as convicted murderer Kermit Gosnell.

The liberal hierarchy also voted to divest the denomination of certain stock connected with Israel. The Israelis are the bad guys and the Palestinians are perennial victims, and a majority in the PCUSA has bought this pro-Islam, anti-Semitic baloney.

The good news is that many in their flock will flee from the decisions of the foolish leaders, a division that could have been predicted. But self-destruction follows spiritual and sexual anarchy, and its rotten fruits are stinking up huge swaths of the American plain, along with outposts of the professing Christian church.

It's not just the leftist Presbyterians. The United Church of Christ just proudly announced sponsorship of the "Gay" Games in Cleveland in August. This denomination has been on a radical path for forty years, with today's UCC considered a partner in "gay" activism by the extremist Human Rights Campaign.

UCC is joined by a diverse array of other liberal denominations as faith partners of the "Gay" Games: PCUSA, Episcopal, United Methodist, and Unitarians (who never claim to be Christians, so at least they are honest).

SOPHIA REVISITED

When they first heard about the trouble with Sophia, the folks at the Methodist Church headquarters in Nashville didn’t know what everyone was getting so excited about. “I’ve work…

www.chicagotribune.com

There is so much more, but too many characters and anyway it sickens me and I can post no more.

 

[TLHKAJ]

There is so much more, but too many characters and anyway it sickens me and I can post no more.

Yes, I hear you. This is horribly evil.

 

[Rella ~ I am a woman]

Control? Do you think there is a toggle switch or something?

Sexual orientations aren't controlled any more than skin color or right/left handedness

Part of Florida's don't say gay law was the provision that educators and counselors has no choice but to out any LGBT child to their parent. Even if there is every reason to believe that such outing would endanger the child. About a third of LGBT kids are physically abused by their parents after their parents find out and that number skyrockets in homes of religious fundamentalists to 80%.

I am so happy you have not experienced anything like brainwashing. Maybe Patty Hearst can enlighten you... if you are old enough to remember.... If not, do an in depth google.

If you are so pro boy=girl and girl=boy why is it that so many come forward after a few years
of being the other and have buyers remorse. Especially with surgical alterations that are irreversible.

I said absolutely nothing about the grown adults and the likes of Bruce/Kaitlin Jenner.

But a child does not have the mental capacity to see what is being suggested, especially when they cannot talk it over with mommy and daddy.

How many young boys... alter boys have grown up with mental issues after their "friendly" priestly attentions?

There is a reason it is called the age of accountability..... I wont explain for you would not understand.

Yes... of course child abuse is bad.... but child neglect is equally as bad.

Do you remember Proverbs or are you strictly a New Testament man?

Proverbs 13:24

NASB 1995
He who withholds his rod hates his son, But he who loves him disciplines him diligently.

Go ahead... check your own favorite translation.

These kids are in this mess because no one cares enough to correct them.

 

[teamventure]

you might want to look up what you are talking about. Muming and guising were traditions where young adults would dress as spirits of their family members and go door to door collecting food for the communal feast. Harvest celebration means lots of food and at the start of winter was a time of remembering loved ones who had passed

Samhain was the name of the month not a deity, It translates as reunion and assembly.

Still just as satanic