Hal Lindsay And Time LaHaye Were Deceived

[Douggg]

Almost all of Daniel 11 is about the United states presidents and their armed forces

No, it does not.

f you had been paying attention to the last few decades,you would have known that.Insted you have not been paying attention at all Doug.


You've been preaching the statue is coming ,the statue is coming.

The end times abomination of desolation that is in Daniel 12:11-12 was prefigured as being a statue image
by what Antiochus IV's troops did in Daniel 11:31 when they placed a statue image of Zeus in the temple.

1. they took away the daily sacrifice - the daily sacrifice of two lambs was a temple activity of worshiping the One True God.
2. then placed the abomination that made the temple desolate - of any further worship of the One True God

Daniel 11:31 And arms shall stand on his part, and they shall pollute the sanctuary of strength, and shall take away the daily sacrifice, and they shall place the abomination that maketh desolate.

The end times verses in Daniel 11 do not begin until Daniel 11:36, with Daniel 11:35 being the transition verse to the end times.

 

[tailgator]

Your thinking that abominations have to do with military matters is totally wrong.

The abomination of desolation has to do with religious matters. Not military matters.

I showed you that "abominations" have to do with religious matters from Revelation 17:4-5.

The "abomination of desolation" has to do with a statue image of the beast king (the statue image being the abomination) set up on the temple mount (the holy place) which will make the temple mount and temple desolate (meaning "empty of") any worship of the One True God.

You are completely ignorant of the scripture.

Daniel wrote its the armed forces that set up the abomination that causes desolation.No one else.


And then you say what the armed forces do is not military.

 

[tailgator]

No, it does not.


The end times abomination of desolation that is in Daniel 12:11-12 was prefigured as being a statue image
by what Antiochus IV's troops did in Daniel 11:31 when they placed a statue image of Zeus in the temple.

1. they took away the daily sacrifice - the daily sacrifice of two lambs was a temple activity of worshiping the One True God.
2. then placed the abomination that made the temple desolate - of any further worship of the One True God

Daniel 11:31 And arms shall stand on his part, and they shall pollute the sanctuary of strength, and shall take away the daily sacrifice, and they shall place the abomination that maketh desolate.

The end times verses in Daniel 11 do not begin until Daniel 11:36, with Daniel 11:35 being the transition verse to the end times.

False teaching.
Completely false

Like I said.You have ignored almost the entire chapter while it was being fulfilled.



You was to busy warning the world of a statue.

 

[Douggg]

You are completely ignorant of the scripture.

It's the armed forces that set up the abomination that causes desolation.


And then you say what the armed forces do is not military.

The abomination of desolation is not the destruction of populations.

The abomination of desolation will be basically an idol placed in the holy place, i.e. the temple mount, that is reserved for the worship of the One True God.

Revelation 13:14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.

15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.

 

[tailgator]

No, it does not.


The end times abomination of desolation that is in Daniel 12:11-12 was prefigured as being a statue image
by what Antiochus IV's troops did in Daniel 11:31 when they placed a statue image of Zeus in the temple.

1. they took away the daily sacrifice - the daily sacrifice of two lambs was a temple activity of worshiping the One True God.
2. then placed the abomination that made the temple desolate - of any further worship of the One True God

Daniel 11:31 And arms shall stand on his part, and they shall pollute the sanctuary of strength, and shall take away the daily sacrifice, and they shall place the abomination that maketh desolate.

The end times verses in Daniel 11 do not begin until Daniel 11:36, with Daniel 11:35 being the transition verse to the end times.

Run Doug run.Flee to the mountains
Hes coming for you.

 

[Douggg]

Run Doug run.Flee to the mountains
Hes coming for you.


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You are mocking Jesus's words of Matthew 24:15-20...

15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)

16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:

17 Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:

18 Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.

19 And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!

20 But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:

21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.

 

[tailgator]

You are mocking Jesus's words of Matthew 24:15-20...

15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)

16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:

17 Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:

18 Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.

19 And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!

20 But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:

21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.

I am mocking you Doug.

Jesus has sense enough to know that only them in Judea who are on their housetops or in their fields will be able to see the abomination of desolation .Even them who are standing twenty miles away in judea will be able to see it.


But you mock Jesus and say the only people who will be able to see it have to be standing inside of a building in Jerusalem.

 

[Douggg]

But you mock Jesus and say the only people who will be able to see it have to be standing inside of a building in Jerusalem.

No. You are not reading what I wrote. The abomination of desolation will be placed outdoors on the temple mount where everyone can see it.

Differently, it will be the transgression of desolation that will take place inside the temple building, in the Holy of Holies chamber. i.e. the act by the Antichrist of 2Thessalonains2:4 of going into the temple, sitting, claiming to have achieved God-hood. For that event the Antichrist will apparently have a film crew video it all, real time, and broadcast it.

The transgression of desolation and the abomination of desolation are two different religious events. First the transgression of desolation, which the Antichrist will be killed for it. And brought back to life-as the beast-king.

And then the statue image made of him, the abomination of desolation, and placed on the temple mount where everyone can see it.

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You have yet to say what the transgression of desolation of Daniel 8:13 will be.

Daniel 8:
11 Yea, he magnified himself even to the prince of the host, and by him the daily sacrifice was taken away, and the place of his sanctuary was cast down.

12 And an host was given him against the daily sacrifice by reason of transgression, and it cast down the truth to the ground; and it practised, and prospered.

13 Then I heard one saint speaking, and another saint said unto that certain saint which spake, How long shall be the vision concerning the daily sacrifice, and the transgression of desolation, to give both the sanctuary and the host to be trodden under foot?

 

[tailgator]

No. You are not reading what I wrote. The abomination of desolation will be placed outdoors on the temple mount where everyone can see it.

Differently, it will be the transgression of desolation that will take place inside the temple building, in the Holy of Holies chamber. i.e. the act by the Antichrist of 2Thessalonains2:4 of going into the temple, sitting, claiming to have achieved God-hood. For that event the Antichrist will apparently have a film crew video it all, real time, and broadcast it.

The transgression of desolation and the abomination of desolation are two different religious events. First the transgression of desolation, which the Antichrist will be killed for it. And brought back to life-as the beast-king.

And then the statue image made of him, the abomination of desolation, and placed on the temple mount where everyone can see it.

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You have yet to say what the transgression of desolation of Daniel 8:13 will be.

Daniel 8:
11 Yea, he magnified himself even to the prince of the host, and by him the daily sacrifice was taken away, and the place of his sanctuary was cast down.

12 And an host was given him against the daily sacrifice by reason of transgression, and it cast down the truth to the ground; and it practised, and prospered.

13 Then I heard one saint speaking, and another saint said unto that certain saint which spake, How long shall be the vision concerning the daily sacrifice, and the transgression of desolation, to give both the sanctuary and the host to be trodden under foot?

No one is going to flee from.a statue.That is completely ignorant.

On the day of the Lord,when the a abomination of desolation is placed in Jerusalem.The earthquakes and the heavens depart as a scroll being rolled together,then them which are in judea will flee for their lives.They will flee to the mountains to hide in the dens of the rocks of the mountains and say fall on us.

 

[tailgator]

Flee doug.flee
Hes coming to get you.

 

[Douggg]

No one is going to flee from.a statue.That is completely ignorant.

They don't flee the statue. Them in Judea are told by Jesus to flee to the mountains right away when they see the abomination of desolation - the statue image on the temple mount.

The reason to flee right away being because the false prophet is going to have citizens in Jerusalem and surrounding vicinity rounded up periodically and brought to the temple mount and told to kneel before the statue and worship it. Anyone who refuses will be killed.

Revelation 13:15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.

That statue image will come to life and speak because Satan is going to indwell it, in order to be worshiped (Revelation 13:4 worship of the dragon).

When Jesus returns, Jesus is going to cause that statue image to go up in flames, turned to ashes, exposing Satan there on the temple mount for everyone present that day to see him. Ezekiel 28:17-19.

Thus, the abomination of desolation will not only be an abomination because it will be essentially an idol, but also because it will be indwelt by Satan.

 

[tailgator]

They don't flee the statue. Them in Judea are told by Jesus to flee to the mountains right away when they see the abomination of desolation - the statue image on the temple mount.

The reason to flee right away being because the false prophet is going to have citizens in Jerusalem and surrounding vicinity rounded up periodically and brought to the temple mount and told to kneel before the statue and worship it. Anyone who refuses will be killed.

Revelation 13:15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.

That statue image will come to life and speak because Satan is going to indwell it, in order to be worshiped (Revelation 13:4 worship of the dragon).

When Jesus returns, Jesus is going to cause that statue image to go up in flames, turned to ashes, exposing Satan there on the temple mount for everyone present that day to see him. Ezekiel 28:17-19.

Thus, the abomination of desolation will not only be an abomination because it will be essentially an idol, but also because it will be indwelt by Satan.

More false translating.

They are fleeing to try to save their own skin from consumption and pestilence.

Mathew 24
21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.

22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.





People will be consumed as they stand on their feet.Others flee .

 

[tailgator]

They don't flee the statue. Them in Judea are told by Jesus to flee to the mountains right away when they see the abomination of desolation - the statue image on the temple mount.

The reason to flee right away being because the false prophet is going to have citizens in Jerusalem and surrounding vicinity rounded up periodically and brought to the temple mount and told to kneel before the statue and worship it. Anyone who refuses will be killed.

Revelation 13:15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.

That statue image will come to life and speak because Satan is going to indwell it, in order to be worshiped (Revelation 13:4 worship of the dragon).

When Jesus returns, Jesus is going to cause that statue image to go up in flames, turned to ashes, exposing Satan there on the temple mount for everyone present that day to see him. Ezekiel 28:17-19.

Thus, the abomination of desolation will not only be an abomination because it will be essentially an idol, but also because it will be indwelt by Satan.

I recon you have not noticed the saints are killed 42 months before the great tribulation even begins.

The image of the beast is made 42 months before the US armed forces place the nuke in Jerusalem.

 

[tailgator]

It's really rediculous to believe people looking a statue causes greater tribulation than nuclear war which consumes the flesh.

Zech 14
12 And this shall be the plague wherewith the Lord will smite all the people that have fought against Jerusalem; Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their holes, and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth.







And you think people worshiping a statue is greater tribulation than hundreds of millions of people suffering nuclear Holocaust.

 

[tailgator]

Jesus describes the great tribulation (great distress)as the heavens shaking and signs in the heavens .


Luke 21
25 And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring;

26 Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken.





Yet some people believe it's caused by a statue .

 

[Douggg]

People will be consumed as they stand on their feet.Others flee .

It's really rediculous to believe people looking a statue causes greater tribulation than nuclear war which consumes the flesh.

Zech 14
12 And this shall be the plague wherewith the Lord will smite all the people that have fought against Jerusalem; Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their holes, and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth.

It is not a nuclear war that causes the effect in Zechariah 14:12, but by Jesus speaking their deaths...

Revelation 19:
19 And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army.

20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.

21 And the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse, which sword proceeded out of his mouth: and all the fowls were filled with their flesh.

 

[tailgator]

It is not a nuclear war that causes the effect in Zechariah 14:12, but by Jesus speaking their deaths...

Revelation 19:
19 And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army.

20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.

21 And the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse, which sword proceeded out of his mouth: and all the fowls were filled with their flesh.

No,it's not Jesus causing all the distress upon earth.


Luke 21
25 And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring;

26 Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken.

 

[Douggg]

I recon you have not noticed the saints are killed 42 months before the great tribulation even begins.

The image of the beast is made 42 months before the US armed forces place the nuke in Jerusalem.

There is no reason for anyone to place a nuke in Jerusalem as delivery systems can target any point on earth.

What verses are you referring to that indicates the saints are killed 42 months before the great tribulation begins?

 

[Douggg]

No,it's not Jesus causing all the distress upon earth.

You were referring to the deaths of them who come up against Jerusalem in Zechariah 14. Their deaths will be by Jesus speaking their deaths with something like.... "Die ! ".

Revelation 19:21 And the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse, which sword proceeded out of his mouth: and all the fowls were filled with their flesh.

 

[Davy]

You are completely ignorant of the scripture.

Daniel wrote its the armed forces that set up the abomination that causes desolation.No one else.


And then you say what the armed forces do is not military.

No, it is you... that is completely ignorant of the Daniel Scripture, and prophecy in God's written Word about the very end of this world. And I think it is because you are attending the WRONG KIND OF CHURCH, if you go to Church at all (which either way, I don't care).

ANY... Church or preacher that thinks the United States of America, or 'any' western European country represents Christ's enemy doesn't know much about their Bible as written.

This because the western nations accepted The Gospel of Jesus Christ after the Passion of Christ, while most nations outside the West instead did not, and most of them still do not accept Jesus Christ today, INCLUDING the nation state called Israel in the middle east today!