God's Hatred

[MatthewG]

Hello @Christian Soldier,

Yes, Yahavah did decide to put the whole world under, but he regretted doing so (later on he was going to put his chosen nation under materially in replacing it with a heavenly one (the great and dreadful day of the LORD). I never suggested anything about what you said though, nor do I get the idea where you get it from. I don't believe that God hated the world, at any point in time, unless you can quote that somewhere... I believe Yahavah was disappointed with his creation, and tried to start over, with those 8. He regretted what he had done. He then changed his methods of how he worked with his people whom he loved. When it comes to these things, they don't bother me as much as they do other people out here in this world. When it comes to "hating" its more of a disliking, than it is hatred in which people espouse.

 

[Christian Soldier]

One is also in for a rude shock if one attempts to understand the OT with a western mindset/ values/ paradigm.

It's not about cherry picking in the slightest, it is understanding the cultures that the Hebrews were subjected to and influenced by. It is also understanding at least some of the Hebrew value system. All these things shaped their paradigm from which they wrote.

As an illustration, how would you think an eskimo would understand the reality of a Cow Boy in Arizona? He would try to understand it through his own paradigm and inevitably draw conclusions not in line with the Cow Boy's

Not so, this reasoning is fundamentally flawed. It's like saying "Johnny is a good boy, who fell into the wrong crowd and became spoiled". While the truth of Gods Word, is that Johnny is the bad crowd, because he was born totally depraved and dead in his sin just as the rest of mankind is.

Every single person after Adam was born with a sin nature and dead to spiritual things and he remains that way forever, unless God regenerates him. So you will have to go back to the drawing board and rethink your theology and doctrines, as they are not based on any truth, and are instead the product of wishful thinking.

Every single Eskimo and Australian Aboriginal, going back to ancient times knew God, just as well as the Hebrews. Although they didn't have a bible, God revealed Himself to them just as clearly as He has to us. So all are without excuse, and God will laugh at these fooliosh excuses men like you come up with to excuse them of their willful sin.

 

[Ritajanice]

For God hated the world so much, that He killed every man, woman, child and unborn child, save eight. Now tell me about this love God has for the world, and I will tell you about His hatred for the world. Are you suggesting that God has a mental disorder, like bi polar disease.
If your suggesting that He casts the vast majority of those He loves into hell, and then torments them with fire for all eternity. Then your god is a sick psychopath.

For God so loved the world that he gave his only Son up,

Oh yea of little spiritual understanding..you wander through the scriptures alone, I see no Spirit guiding you and bringing them to your understanding.

You have no eyes or ears..( spiritual) just your own.

 

[Christian Soldier]

Hello @Christian Soldier,

Yes, Yahavah did decide to put the whole world under, but he regretted doing so (later on he was going to put his chosen nation under materially in replacing it with a heavenly one (the great and dreadful day of the LORD). I never suggested anything about what you said though, nor do I get the idea where you get it from. I don't believe that God hated the world, at any point in time, unless you can quote that somewhere... I believe Yahavah was disappointed with his creation, and tried to start over, with those 8. He regretted what he had done. He then changed his methods of how he worked with his people whom he loved. When it comes to these things, they don't bother me as much as they do other people out here in this world. When it comes to "hating" its more of a disliking, than it is hatred in which people espouse.

Your theology is incoherent and it makes no sense at all. You have a very low view of God, you think He is like a man, that He should change His mind about something. Well, I can assure you God is not like men and He never changes anything about Himself, He has always been exactly the same as He is at this very moment.

I'm not sure if you've ever studied the bible, but if you do you will find that He hates certain individuals before they are born. You would also find that He chose to only love certain individuals, before He created the world.

These are just a couple of bible doctrines you might like to study, to equip yourself with some knowledge of these doctrines, before you comment on them and people like myself who are aware of them won't have to call you out on your lack of understanding.

Why would God torment someone with hellfire for all eternity, just because He dislikes them. That would make Him evil, right????. And did He kill every single man, woman, child and baby in the mothers womb, just because He disliked them????..... You have a very low view of God......

 

[Christian Soldier]

For God so loved the world that he gave his only Son up,

Oh yea of little spiritual understanding..

Rubbish, "for God so hated the world, that He killed every man, woman, child and baby on the mothers womb" save eight.

See what happens when you try to use scripture to destroy scripture, it makes you look ,like a fool.

 

[Ritajanice]

Your theology is incoherent and it makes no sense at all. You have a very low view of God, you think He is like a man, that He should change His mind about something. Well, I can assure you God is not like men and He never changes anything about Himself, He has always been exactly the same as He is at this very moment.

I'm not sure if you've ever studied the bible, but if you do you will find that He hates certain individuals before they are born. You would also find that He chose to only love certain individuals, before He created the world.

These are just a couple of bible doctrines you might like to study, to equip yourself with some knowledge of these doctrines, before you comment on them and people like myself who are aware of them won't have to call you out on your lack of understanding.

Why would God torment someone with hellfire for all eternity, just because He dislikes them. That would make Him evil, right????. And did He kill every single man, woman, child and baby in the mothers womb, just because He disliked them????..... You have a very low view of God......

You need to ask for divine heart revelation, all I see from you is walking and talking yourself through scripture..self led.

 

[Ritajanice]

Rubbish, "for God so hated the world, that He killed every man, woman, child and baby on the mothers womb" save eight.

See what happens when you try to use scripture to destroy scripture, it makes you look ,like a fool.

You need divine heart revelation..your talk is your own..walk the walk and talk the talk, your own that is.

Nothing spiritual in your posts whatsoever..

 

[Christian Soldier]

You need to ask for divine heart revelation, all I see from you is walking and talking yourself through scripture..self led.

 

[Christian Soldier]

You need divine heart revelation..your talk is your own..walk the walk and talk the talk, your own that is.

Nothing spiritual in your posts whatsoever..

I only quote Gods Word, and it rubbish to you because there is no truth in you

 

[Ritajanice]

I only quote Gods Word, and it rubbish to you because there is no truth in you

You may be a Christian, but imo, you have no knowledge of the spiritual rebirth, therefore your posts are your own understanding of the scriptures.

 

[Ritajanice]

Indeed, pray for divine heart revelation, you will then receive those spiritual eyes to see, spiritual ears to hear, then your journey with the Spirit will begin.

 

[MatthewG]

Hello @Christian Soldier,

Online forums people are very opinionated. Thank you for sharing yours with me.

 

[Behold]

Rubbish, "for God so hated the world, that He killed every man, woman, child and baby on the mothers womb" save eight.

A person can become so sin hardened,... so like the Devil....... that even their Conscience has no good in it.... and that person is beyond the scope of the reach of God.
They are exactly like their Father, the Devil...

Jesus says this about all unbelievers.. "YOU are of YOUR FATHER.... THE DEVIL... and the LUSTS of YOUR FATHER, you will do"..

So, some do that so much, that there is no recovery for them......no way back......they are become EVIL...

And in the OT, there was a point where "all but 8" had become EVIL, itself, and God ended it.

He did the same, one other time.. in Genesis 19... He burned Sexual Deviants .......an entire City filled with them, because their evil was FULL... complete.


This same God... .offers His SON JESUS on the CROSS for every sinner born since the Cross was raised..... even tho many Hate God, Hate JESUS, Hate Christians.
YET, Jesus died for them...the haters.. and God wants to forgive them, and have them in His Family.

Why?
Because God is love....but His love, is Divine Justice, also...

 

[quietthinker]

Not so, this reasoning is fundamentally flawed. It's like saying "Johnny is a good boy, who fell into the wrong crowd and became spoiled". While the truth of Gods Word, is that Johnny is the bad crowd, because he was born totally depraved and dead in his sin just as the rest of mankind is.

Every single person after Adam was born with a sin nature and dead to spiritual things and he remains that way forever, unless God regenerates him. So you will have to go back to the drawing board and rethink your theology and doctrines, as they are not based on any truth, and are instead the product of wishful thinking.

Every single Eskimo and Australian Aboriginal, going back to ancient times knew God, just as well as the Hebrews. Although they didn't have a bible, God revealed Himself to them just as clearly as He has to us. So all are without excuse, and God will laugh at these fooliosh excuses men like you come up with to excuse them of their willful sin.

do you speak a second language CS?

 

[Phoneman777]

I'm not here to promote my credibility, I'm only interested in proclaiming the truth of the gospel. I know most Christians hate the true gospel, because the truth is so awful that men killed Him.

The truth is not a ting, it's a person and His name is the Lord Jesus Christ. He said they will hate you for My Names sake and they will persecute you and kill you, but remember they hated Me first.

So when I proclaim the truth and people like you reject it, you are rejecting the Lord Jesus Christ, whom I follow.

Truth welcomes the opportunity to stand the test of scrutiny - it doesn't ignore it.

 

[Jack]

OK, that's better now. You finally agree that the Jesus of the Bible said, "you can't be My disciple, unless you hate your mother and father. I'm glad to see you have capitulated and embraced the true Jesus of the Bible and not the fictitious one most Christians follow.

Obviously Jesus was referring to the CHOICE of family or Him. Good luck with your religion of HATE! You'll need it on Judgment Day!

Matthew 5:44
44 But I say to you, love your enemies,

 

[Lambano]

 

[Lambano]

 

[Lambano]

Go ahead and hate your neighbor,
Go ahead and cheat a friend.
Do it in the name of Heaven,
You can justify it in the end.

 

[Christian Soldier]

You may be a Christian, but imo, you have no knowledge of the spiritual rebirth, therefore your posts are your own understanding of the scriptures.

I don't understand this type of "spiritual birth", you speak of, because it's not in the bible. The one described in the bible, states that born again Christians, still commit sins like murder and adultery.