God's Hatred

[Jack]

That's rubbish, that trash is not in the bible. None of that means what you say it means, so it's just trash.

Ephesians 6:2-3
2 "Honor your father and mother," which is the first commandment with promise:
3 "that it may be well with you and you may live long on the earth."

 

[Christian Soldier]

Jesus said to love your enemies. You do not! Doesn't sound like you love anyone but YOU.

You haven't explained what this love thing is, that you have for your enemies. Christ was asked about love and He described it as "laying down your life for your enemy". So you would die for those that God hates, bravo congratulations. BTW, what religion do you follow, it sounds really strange.

 

[Christian Soldier]

Ephesians 6:2-3
2 "Honor your father and mother," which is the first commandment with promise:
3 "that it may be well with you and you may live long on the earth."

What a joke, who on earth would believe such nonsense

 

[Jack]

You haven't explained what this love thing is, that you have for your enemies. Christ was asked about love and He described it as "laying down your life for your enemy". So you would die for those that God hates, bravo congratulations. BTW, what religion do you follow, it sounds really strange.

Yes, I would die for you!

 

[Jack]

What a joke, who on earth would believe such nonsense

Jesus and Christians!

Ephesians 6:2-3
2 "Honor your father and mother," which is the first commandment with promise:
3 "that it may be well with you and you may live long on the earth."

 

[Christian Soldier]

Yes, I would die for you!

You shouldn't joke about such a serious subject. God may test you to see if you mean what you say, lets hope He doesn't because I know you would disappoint Him.

Why would you die for me? you obviously consider me to be an enemy. Jesus only died for the elect, while we were still His enemies. So if Jesus didn't die for all of His enemies, why would you?

 

[Christian Soldier]

Jesus and Christians!

Ephesians 6:2-3
2 "Honor your father and mother," which is the first commandment with promise:
3 "that it may be well with you and you may live long on the earth."

Jesus doesn't have a mother, so those verses don't apply to Him. In any case, the verses don't say anything about love. "Honor" means you don't give your parents anything to be ashamed about. If you're a faithful believer, then you're honoring your parents because they will never need to be ashamed of how they raised you.

If you turn out to be a loser, then you bring dishonor to your parents. I honor my parents, even though I hate them. My blood won't be on their hands, they took me to what they thought was a Christian Church. They didn't know they raised me in a false religion.

 

[Jack]

You shouldn't joke about such a serious subject. God may test you to see if you mean what you say, lets hope He doesn't because I know you would disappoint Him.

You know? All you seem to know is HATRED!

Why would you die for me? you obviously consider me to be an enemy. Jesus only died for the elect, while we were still His enemies. So if Jesus didn't die for all of His enemies, why would you?

I don't want you to burn in Hell with your hatred forever and ever.

 

[Jack]

Jesus doesn't have a mother, so those verses don't apply to Him.

Matthew 1:18
18 Now the birth of Jesus Christ was as follows: After His mother Mary was betrothed to Joseph,

In any case, the verses don't say anything about love. "Honor" means you don't give your parents anything to be ashamed about. If you're a faithful believer, then you're honoring your parents because they will never need to be ashamed of how they raised you.

So you think HATING your parents is honoring them? How sad!

If you turn out to be a loser, then you bring dishonor to your parents. I honor my parents, even though I hate them. My blood won't be on their hands, they took me to what they thought was a Christian Church. They didn't know they raised me in a false religion.

How Satanic!

 

[Lambano]

Why would you die for me? you obviously consider me to be an enemy. Jesus only died for the elect, while we were still His enemies. So if Jesus didn't die for all of His enemies, why would you?

Oh, didn't He?

And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world. (1 John 2:2)

And this is where the doctrine of Limited Atonement leads to error. There is absolutely nothing in the context of 1 John that allows one to define "the whole world" as anything other than the plain meaning of "the whole world" as "everybody other than 'us'". And the same error is applied to John 3:16, "For God so loved the World".

Then the doctrinal error becomes a behavioral sin in failing to love our neighbors.

Now REPENT!

 

[Lambano]

 

[VictoryinJesus]

Jesus doesn't have a mother, so those verses don't apply to Him.

Did Jesus Christ have a Father?
Then what makes you think Jesus Christ didn’t have a Mother?
Galatians 4:24-26 Now this may be interpreted allegorically: these women are two covenants. One is from Mount Sinai, bearing children for slavery; she is Hagar. [25] Now Hagar is Mount Sinai in Arabia; she corresponds to the present Jerusalem, for she is in slavery with her children. [26] But the Jerusalem above is free, and she is our mother.
Is New Jerusalem above and free the Mother of Jesus Christ? If you go to proverbs it speaks of the Wisdom that comes down from above …
Which Jesus Christ said He was from above, how they were from beneath. James 3:15-18
This wisdom(earthly) descendeth not from above, but is earthly, sensual, devilish. [16] For where envying and strife is, there is confusion and every evil work. [17] But the wisdom that is from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, and easy to be intreated, full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality, and without hypocrisy. [18] And the fruit of righteousness is sown in peace of them that make peace.

In proverbs it speaks of the law of kindness in the tongue of which woman? …you say Jesus Christ had no Mother to honor and obey but as much as He had a Father, He also walked in the law of kindness of His Mother ->New Jerusalem. Every thing He spoke contradicted those things not given from above but were of men: sensual, devilish. For where envying and strife is, there is confusion and every evil work.

Jesus Christ did honor His Father and Mother. He even became poor so that others could be made rich. He also made a Way for New Jerusalem to bear children…being the First Fruit. To deny New Jerusalem is to deny “the Free Woman” here:
Romans 7:2-6 KJV
For the woman which has an husband is bound by the law to her husband so long as he lives; but if the husband be dead, she is loosed from the law of (Jealousies) of her husband. [3] So then if, while her husband lives, she be married to another man, she shall be called an adulteress: but if her husband be dead, she is free from that law; so that she is no adulteress, (there is a difference between an adulteress and by the body of Christ free from bound to her husband) though she be married to another man. [4] Wherefore, my brethren, you also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that you should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God. [5] For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death. [6] But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.

That is (Imo) the contradictions in: the two women are two covenants …where Christ spoke on the first covenant (bound by the law to her husband so long as he lives, so if she marries another she is called an adulteress) you have heard to love your neighbor and hate your enemies.

Here comes the New Covenant, which isn’t really New but something men could NOT do without God… failing in one point they failed in all. Then Christ says “you have heard it said to love your neighbor and hate your enemies” “but I say to you…to not only love those who love you, but to love also your enemies”

There are two …the ministration of sin unto death. And the Ministration of obedience unto righteousness. I wonder…Which ministration are “the elect” of? Of the woman called an adulterous woman or of the Woman whom is free to bear fruit unto God?

 

[Christian Soldier]

You know? All you seem to know is HATRED!

I don't want you to burn in Hell with your hatred forever and ever.

Why would Jesus cast me into the lake of fire, for obeying His command to hate my parents. You have never made any sense at all. Everything you say is upside down.

 

[Christian Soldier]

Matthew 1:18
18 Now the birth of Jesus Christ was as follows: After His mother Mary was betrothed to Joseph,

So you think HATING your parents is honoring them? How sad!

How Satanic!

Mary was a sinner, Jesus is sinless so she is not His mother at all. Never mind what Matthew said, Jesus confirmed she is not His mother by addressing her as "woman". He never once called her "mother".

You don't understand what "hate" and "love" mean, so you're not equipped to discuss them

 

[Christian Soldier]

Oh, didn't He?

And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world. (1 John 2:2)

And this is where the doctrine of Limited Atonement leads to error. There is absolutely nothing in the context of 1 John that allows one to define "the whole world" as anything other than the plain meaning of "the whole world" as "everybody other than 'us'". And the same error is applied to John 3:16, "For God so loved the World".

Then the doctrinal error becomes a behavioral sin in failing to love our neighbors.

Now REPENT!

I have nothing to repent of, your false Arminian religion has blinded you so you reject the true gospel.

"and not only for our Jewish only, but for the whole world, meaning "Gentiles" from every tribe and tongue. You can see anything past your false Arminian doctrine.

Your Arminian religion has become a behavioral sin in failing to love the Lord God. You love Jacob Arminius more than the Word of God.

 

[Christian Soldier]

Did Jesus Christ have a Father?
Then what makes you think Jesus Christ didn’t have a Mother?
Galatians 4:24-26 Now this may be interpreted allegorically: these women are two covenants. One is from Mount Sinai, bearing children for slavery; she is Hagar. [25] Now Hagar is Mount Sinai in Arabia; she corresponds to the present Jerusalem, for she is in slavery with her children. [26] But the Jerusalem above is free, and she is our mother.
Is New Jerusalem above and free the Mother of Jesus Christ? If you go to proverbs it speaks of the Wisdom that comes down from above …
Which Jesus Christ said He was from above, how they were from beneath. James 3:15-18
This wisdom(earthly) descendeth not from above, but is earthly, sensual, devilish. [16] For where envying and strife is, there is confusion and every evil work. [17] But the wisdom that is from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, and easy to be intreated, full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality, and without hypocrisy. [18] And the fruit of righteousness is sown in peace of them that make peace.

In proverbs it speaks of the law of kindness in the tongue of which woman? …you say Jesus Christ had no Mother to honor and obey but as much as He had a Father, He also walked in the law of kindness of His Mother ->New Jerusalem. Every thing He spoke contradicted those things not given from above but were of men: sensual, devilish. For where envying and strife is, there is confusion and every evil work.

Jesus Christ did honor His Father and Mother. He even became poor so that others could be made rich. He also made a Way for New Jerusalem to bear children…being the First Fruit. To deny New Jerusalem is to deny “the Free Woman” here:
Romans 7:2-6 KJV
For the woman which has an husband is bound by the law to her husband so long as he lives; but if the husband be dead, she is loosed from the law of (Jealousies) of her husband. [3] So then if, while her husband lives, she be married to another man, she shall be called an adulteress: but if her husband be dead, she is free from that law; so that she is no adulteress, (there is a difference between an adulteress and by the body of Christ free from bound to her husband) though she be married to another man. [4] Wherefore, my brethren, you also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that you should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God. [5] For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death. [6] But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.

That is (Imo) the contradictions in: the two women are two covenants …where Christ spoke on the first covenant (bound by the law to her husband so long as he lives, so if she marries another she is called an adulteress) you have heard to love your neighbor and hate your enemies.

Here comes the New Covenant, which isn’t really New but something men could NOT do without God… failing in one point they failed in all. Then Christ says “you have heard it said to love your neighbor and hate your enemies” “but I say to you…to not only love those who love you, but to love also your enemies”

There are two …the ministration of sin unto death. And the Ministration of obedience unto righteousness. I wonder…Which ministration are “the elect” of? Of the woman called an adulterous woman or of the Woman whom is free to bear fruit unto God?

Most of the above doesn't not apply to "Mary". Let's not forget that Mary was born a totally depraved and dead in her sin, just like everyone else. If she was the mother of Jesus, then Jesus would have inherited original sin from her. But we know that Jesus was immaculate and perfectly sinless, so Mary the sinner couldn't be His mother.

Jesus created the woman Mary, and He chose to use her vessel to take on flesh and enter the world. So how can you say that the One who created Mary, is her Son. It's the other way around, that "woman" as Jesus called her is actually His daughter, so lets get that right. Jesus created all things that exist, including the Devil. And He uses them for all for His glory.

The Roman Catholics refer to Mary as the "Mother of God", that's absolutely blasphemous. Please don't go down that path.

Mary was a sinner, who need to sacrifice animals to atone for her sin, so she is not immaculate and nor is she a virgin. So all the titles that the Roman Catholics ascribe to Mary are false and blasphemous.

 

[VictoryinJesus]

Most of the above doesn't not apply to "Mary". Let's not forget that Mary was born a totally depraved and dead in her sin, just like everyone else. If she was the mother of Jesus, then Jesus would have inherited original sin from her. But we know that Jesus was immaculate and perfectly sinless, so Mary the sinner couldn't be His mother.

Jesus created the woman Mary, and He chose to use her vessel to take on flesh and enter the world. So how can you say that the One who created Mary, is her Son. It's the other way around, that "woman" as Jesus called her is actually His daughter, so lets get that right. Jesus created all things that exist, including the Devil. And He uses them for all for His glory.

The Roman Catholics refer to Mary as the "Mother of God", that's absolutely blasphemous. Please don't go down that path.

Mary was a sinner, who need to sacrifice animals to atone for her sin, so she is not immaculate and nor is she a virgin. So all the titles that the Roman Catholics ascribe to Mary are false and blasphemous.

I was referring New Jerusalem.
Galatians 4:24-26 Now this may be interpreted allegorically: these women are two covenants. One is from Mount Sinai, bearing children for slavery; she is Hagar. [25] Now Hagar is Mount Sinai in Arabia; she corresponds to the present Jerusalem, for she is in slavery with her children. [26] But the Jerusalem above is free, and she is our mother.

 

[Jack]

Why would Jesus cast me into the lake of fire, for obeying His command to hate my parents. You have never made any sense at all. Everything you say is upside down.

Those who HATE others are not forgiven their sins! You have a huge problem with your hatred. Is there anyone you don't hate?

 

[Christian Soldier]

Those who HATE others are not forgiven their sins! You have a huge problem with your hatred. Is there anyone you don't hate?

You're still ignoring the fact that Jesus Himself said I must hate my family if I want to follow Him. Your accusing me of being evil, just because I obey the Lord God.

You can't pretend to be a follower of Christ (Christian) and then not obey Him. I don't know why your being willfully ignorant

 

[Taken]

God's Hatred

Yes…. God HATES “things” and “people”.
Yes…. God LOVES “all people”.
No…. God IS not romantically “IN” LOVE with People.

Yes…. Man HATES “things” and “people”
Yes… Man is Romantically IN LOVE with people.
Yes… Man LOVES “things” and “people”.

Yes…. Man is taught, commanded to LOVE all people.
Yes… Man is taught, commanded to HATE people.

Is it POSSIBLE…to “LOVE and HATE” the “Same Things” ? YES
Is it POSSIBLE…to “LOVE and HATE” the
“Same Person” ? YES
Is it POSSIBLE…to “LOVE and HATE” the
“Same Person(S) ? YES

I can LOVE the “artwork” of a particular drawing.
I can HATE the SAME “artwork” tatted on the skin of a human.

I can LOVE a person and HATE his Behavior, his Philosophy, his Ethics, his Speech, his Deceit, etc.

I can LOVE a “group” of SAME minded Person(S) and HATE their Behaviors, Philosophies, etc.

When a man….LOVES another….with ALL his Heart….(it is ROMANTIC)….regardless of the behaviors, philosophies, ethics, speech, deceit.

When a man …LOVES the Lord God….with ALL his Heart….(it is NOT ROMANTIC)….it IS: ALL Inclusive…OF Agreement WITH the Lord God, of/in His Word, His Power, His Wisdom, His Wholeness, His Order and His Way.

Confusing? Conundrum?

LIKELY, if one does NOT understand the DIFFERENCES between…
LOVE, LIKE, DISLIKE, HATE, ABHORE


LOVE and HATE are “NOT” OPPOSITES.
LOVE and ABHOR ARE OPPOSITES

God IS LOVE…
WHAT “IS” LOVE?

Love IS ALWAYS DOING what is BEST/RIGHT.
(For oneself…and ….For/toward Another)…Regardless of the consequences.

WHAT “IS” LIKE?
Similitudes of “particular” things..

WHAT “IS” UNLIKE ?
Particular “things” that are NOT similar.

WHAT “IS” DISLIKE?
One NOT in agreement with “UNLIKE” things.

WHAT “IS” HATE?
A “STRONG DISLIKE” of particular things or persons.

Yes…
The Lord God CAN and DOES…
LOVE and HATE the SAME PERSONS, Groups of Persons and things.
AND…Scripture gives examples of particular MEN God HATES…and WHY.
As well particular THINGS God HATES…and WHY.

Yes…
Men can and do as well…LOVE and HATE the Same persons, groups of persons and things.

Love IS NOT a crime.
Hate IS NOT a crime.

A man Who Abhor’s a man, may lose a brother, a friend.

A man Who Abhor’s the Lord God, shall lose a Savior.

Glory to God,
Taken