Fear God or Presume acceptance

  • Welcome to Christian Forums, a Christian Forum that recognizes that all Christians are a work in progress.

    You will need to register to be able to join in fellowship with Christians all over the world.

    We hope to see you as a part of our community soon and God Bless!

Candidus

Well-Known Member
Jan 27, 2020
1,621
1,389
113
65
Kuna
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
Se you deny the power of God, you deny His spirit and His life, everything is about you, what you have done, its not about us it is about Him. Ths ibit

Joh_16:13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.

Joh_18:37 Pilate therefore said unto him, Art thou a king then? Jesus answered, Thou sayest that I am a king. To this end was I born, and for this cause came I into the world, that I should bear witness unto the truth. Every one that is of the truth heareth my voice.

Joh_10:26 But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you.
Joh_10:27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me

Its in your bible...

2Ti 3:7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.

The truth is in Christ, you wont find it anywhere else.

But the Spirit does not lead you into all truth, for you abuse Scripture and twist it. Simply demonstrated again!
 

Candidus

Well-Known Member
Jan 27, 2020
1,621
1,389
113
65
Kuna
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
As long as you are in your flesh you will be imperfect, that you cannot escape.

Luk_3:16 John answered, saying unto them all, I indeed baptize you with water; but one mightier than I cometh, the latchet of whose shoes I am not worthy to unloose: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost and with fire:

The fire bit hasnt happened yet

Are you living as a Romans 8 Christian, or a Romans 7 unregenerate? You didn't answer.
 

Candidus

Well-Known Member
Jan 27, 2020
1,621
1,389
113
65
Kuna
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
As long as you are in your flesh you will be imperfect, that you cannot escape.

Luk_3:16 John answered, saying unto them all, I indeed baptize you with water; but one mightier than I cometh, the latchet of whose shoes I am not worthy to unloose: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost and with fire:

The fire bit hasnt happened yet

Nice Gnostic response and philosophy! God says that certain people are perfect, He commands that we be perfect, yet this is all undone and subservient to the Gnostic view of the flesh. This you cannot escape.
 

mjrhealth

Well-Known Member
Mar 15, 2009
11,808
4,086
113
Australia
Faith
Christian
Country
Australia
@Candidus yes scripture, an idol set before God, I will have no other Gods before me, and yes twisted all over just look at all these forums.

I am the way I am the truth, says the Lord

1Pe_2:8 And a stone of stumbling, and a rock of offence, even to them which stumble at the word, being disobedient: whereunto also they were appointed

Christ is there if you desire Him

Rev 3:20 Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.
 

FollowHim

Well-Known Member
Aug 22, 2019
2,171
1,047
113
65
London
Faith
Christian
Country
United Kingdom
Yep this bit

Joh_10:26 But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you.
Joh_10:27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:

and

Joh_6:63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.

But still denyed even to this day.
You are all over the place, sure you have something. Do you follow Jesus?
Do you obey Him? Do His words dwell in your heart?

If you feel I need something more than God's word and the Holy Spirit, you do not read very well, lol :)
 
  • Like
Reactions: Candidus

Candidus

Well-Known Member
Jan 27, 2020
1,621
1,389
113
65
Kuna
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
@Candidus yes scripture, an idol set before God, I will have no other Gods before me, and yes twisted all over just look at all these forums.

I am the way I am the truth, says the Lord

1Pe_2:8 And a stone of stumbling, and a rock of offence, even to them which stumble at the word, being disobedient: whereunto also they were appointed

Christ is there if you desire Him

Rev 3:20 Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.

The words of God = Idol?

And then you quote Scripture for your argument? Are you an Idol Worshipper?
 
  • Like
Reactions: FollowHim

FollowHim

Well-Known Member
Aug 22, 2019
2,171
1,047
113
65
London
Faith
Christian
Country
United Kingdom
I am sure you are dead. Oops there is a heart beat, oops you are breathing, oops you have a life and are having fruit, the joy and peace of God.

No no you are a lost lying hypocrite full of the worst evils of this world.

Yer, sure thing. Delusional people cannot accept the world exists outside their definitions, when it is different than they say the definitions are wrong, simple. Insanity begins when reality is the definition.
 
Last edited:

mjrhealth

Well-Known Member
Mar 15, 2009
11,808
4,086
113
Australia
Faith
Christian
Country
Australia
You are all over the place, sure you have something. Do you follow Jesus?
Do you obey Him? Do His words dwell in your heart?

If you feel I need something more than God's word and the Holy Spirit, you do not read very well, lol :)
What oh you mean I glorify Christ yes that disappoints so many doesnt it.

Do as you will so many do.
 

mjrhealth

Well-Known Member
Mar 15, 2009
11,808
4,086
113
Australia
Faith
Christian
Country
Australia
The words of God = Idol?

And then you quote Scripture for your argument? Are you an Idol Worshipper?
Yep can you put it down can you walk away from it, are you willing to put it away to hear teh voice of your saviuopr, are you going to use it to tel lGod HE swroinf=g because te hbibel says, Yes and idol.

I am the way I am the truth says the Lord. Yet still they wont go to Him.
 

mjrhealth

Well-Known Member
Mar 15, 2009
11,808
4,086
113
Australia
Faith
Christian
Country
Australia
You are all over the place, sure you have something. Do you follow Jesus?
Do you obey Him? Do His words dwell in your heart?

If you feel I need something more than God's word and the Holy Spirit, you do not read very well, lol :)
I just need Christ dont you???
 

Candidus

Well-Known Member
Jan 27, 2020
1,621
1,389
113
65
Kuna
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
Yep can you put it down can you walk away from it, are you willing to put it away to hear teh voice of your saviuopr, are you going to use it to tel lGod HE swroinf=g because te hbibel says, Yes and idol.

I am the way I am the truth says the Lord. Yet still they wont go to Him.

Yet it is an empirical fact that no two "Spirit Led" people agree on everything! If you find two that do, one is not thinking for themselves and is not led by the Spirit!

Truth is not all over the place. This is why it is obvious to me that you need the Scriptures! If you come out opposing and twisting truth like you do, you cannot possibly be listening to the Holy Spirit!
 
  • Like
Reactions: FollowHim

FollowHim

Well-Known Member
Aug 22, 2019
2,171
1,047
113
65
London
Faith
Christian
Country
United Kingdom
God's word - alive and living in God's people.

God's word - dead and binding in hearts of stone. The Pharisees had God's word but ignored justice, faithfulness and forgiveness. It was just unyielding legalism with no love.

To those who do not know love, God's word is condemnation, the fragrance of death. Such as these declare their spiritual state simply by their hatred
God bless you
 
  • Like
Reactions: Candidus

FollowHim

Well-Known Member
Aug 22, 2019
2,171
1,047
113
65
London
Faith
Christian
Country
United Kingdom
I just need Christ dont you???
You just need Jesus, no.
You talk of idolatry, you have attempted to separate Jesus from who He is.
Your Jesus could be the guy next door, or the nicest man ever, a prophet, a demon, a deceiver, a blasphemer.

It is through their words and actions we know people. A real trick is to use a name and change the context. Jesus Christ is the man of scripture. You want another Jesus, that is obvious.

Many heresies start on your logic.
God bless you
 

FollowHim

Well-Known Member
Aug 22, 2019
2,171
1,047
113
65
London
Faith
Christian
Country
United Kingdom
Jesus said something profound. To know Him is to know the Father. Jesus learnt from the Father and did alone His will from His word.

This is our example given by our Lord. Jesus as a man still had to learn and follow. It was not innate, even for God.
God as Jesus accepted our limitations, and chose our walk to show it is possible. It is why God's word is so important, it is the foundation of faith
God bless you
 

FollowHim

Well-Known Member
Aug 22, 2019
2,171
1,047
113
65
London
Faith
Christian
Country
United Kingdom
A work of art

As an artist you pour your soul into an image. It is like an extension of who one is. I know this from doing it, not as theory but as experience.

God's word is who He is. It is vulnerable, open, just, balanced, difficult, eternal, wonderful. Criticising His word, judging it is standing in judgement of God. So beware, be very careful, He is God, He can be hurt, He really does care and is unbelievably gracious. But this does have limits especially for those claiming His authority.

God bless you
 

mjrhealth

Well-Known Member
Mar 15, 2009
11,808
4,086
113
Australia
Faith
Christian
Country
Australia
Yet it is an empirical fact that no two "Spirit Led" people agree on everything! If you find two that do, one is not thinking for themselves and is not led by the Spirit!

Truth is not all over the place. This is why it is obvious to me that you need the Scriptures! If you come out opposing and twisting truth like you do, you cannot possibly be listening to the Holy Spirit!

1Jn_5:8 And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one

Doesnt include the bible.
 

mjrhealth

Well-Known Member
Mar 15, 2009
11,808
4,086
113
Australia
Faith
Christian
Country
Australia
You just need Jesus, no.
You talk of idolatry, you have attempted to separate Jesus from who He is.
Your Jesus could be the guy next door, or the nicest man ever, a prophet, a demon, a deceiver, a blasphemer.

It is through their words and actions we know people. A real trick is to use a name and change the context. Jesus Christ is the man of scripture. You want another Jesus, that is obvious.

Many heresies start on your logic.
God bless you
I cannot seperate Jesus from who He is , but He isnt the bible, and the bible is not Him, He is there for you too, what are you afraid of, being called a fool. Unwilling to walk away from it all for Him, cant walk away from your religion, cant put down the bible. look up for you redemption draws nigh. Sorry Jesus too busy studying.
 

mjrhealth

Well-Known Member
Mar 15, 2009
11,808
4,086
113
Australia
Faith
Christian
Country
Australia
Do as you must most christians do.

Mat 25:10 And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came; and they that were ready went in with him to the marriage: and the door was shut.
Mat 25:11 Afterward came also the other virgins, saying, Lord, Lord, open to us.
Mat 25:12 But he answered and said, Verily I say unto you, I know you not.

God bless