Error in KJV and NKJV

[1stCenturyLady]

I use the NKJV and even though this error is in it, it is the only one I've found, and I've written in it the correction.

Isa. 63:11 NKJV
Then he remembered the days of old,
Moses and his people, saying:
“Where is He who brought them up out of the sea
With the [c]shepherd of His flock?
Where is He who put His Holy Spirit within them,

NASB:
Then His people remembered the days of old, of Moses. Where is He who brought them up out of the sea with the shepherds of His flock? Where is He who put His Holy Spirit in the midst of them,

If you know of any other errors let me know.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

I use the NKJV and even though this error is in it, it is the only one I've found, and I've written in it the correction.

Isa. 63:11 NKJV
Then he remembered the days of old,
Moses and his people, saying:
“Where is He who brought them up out of the sea
With the [c]shepherd of His flock?
Where is He who put His Holy Spirit within them,

NASB:
Then His people remembered the days of old, of Moses. Where is He who brought them up out of the sea with the shepherds of His flock? Where is He who put His Holy Spirit in the midst of them,

If you know of any other errors let me know.

It is not an error of the KJV. It is a misunderstanding of the way English was spoken in th edays of King James! Within them in the plural usually denoted, with the people!

 

[Behold]

I use the NKJV and even though this error is in it, it is the only one I've found, and I've written in it the correction.

No doubt the "Holy Spirit" is leading you to post a Thread that is casting Doubt on the word of God, on a public "christian" forum.

Right?
Is that what you believe?

Isn't that the Devil's work, since He first told EVE....>"never mind what God said.....let me show you the word correction".... (paraphrase).

And you told us you are a "seer"?.. is that right?

I guess you didn't SEE what i just pointed out that you are doing... with your Thread.

Maybe you will also see it now, ?????? @1stCenturyLady

 

[SavedInHim]

I use the NKJV and even though this error is in it, it is the only one I've found, and I've written in it the correction.

Isa. 63:11 NKJV
Then he remembered the days of old,
Moses and his people, saying:
“Where is He who brought them up out of the sea
With the [c]shepherd of His flock?
Where is He who put His Holy Spirit within them,

NASB:
Then His people remembered the days of old, of Moses. Where is He who brought them up out of the sea with the shepherds of His flock? Where is He who put His Holy Spirit in the midst of them,

If you know of any other errors let me know.

The NKJV has done a lot to improve on the KJV but it still carries over some baggage from the KJV. 2 Chronicles 22:2 is a clear example: It says Ahaziah was 42 when he became king, which disagrees with 2 Kings 8:26 which says he was 22. We know 22 is the right age because if you do the math, his father Jehoram was 32 when he began to reign and reigned for 8 years, then he died. If Ahaziah was 42, that would mean he was two years older than his father when his father died. I'd like to know how this trick could be done!

Most translations have rectified this but the KJV and NKJV stubbornly refuse to, even when it couldn't be more clear it's a mistake.

 

[1stCenturyLady]

No doubt the "Holy Spirit" is leading you to post a Thread that is casting Doubt on the word of God, on a public "christian" forum.

Right?
Is that what you believe?

Isn't that the Devil's work, since He first told EVE....>"never mind what God said.....let me show you the word correction".... (paraphrase).

And you told us you are a "seer"?.. is that right?

I guess you didn't SEE what i just pointed out that you are doing... with your Thread.

Maybe you will also see it now, ?????? @1stCenturyLady

The Bible wasn't written in English. It is not God's error, but man's. Seeing as we are to live by every Word of God; it is important to know the truth of what God means.

 

[1stCenturyLady]

The NKJV has done a lot to improve on the KJV but it still carries over some baggage from the KJV. 2 Chronicles 22:2 is a clear example: It says Ahaziah was 42 when he became king, which disagrees with 2 Kings 8:26 which says he was 22. We know 22 is the right age because if you do the math, his father Jehoram was 32 when he began to reign and reigned for 8 years, then he died. If Ahaziah was 42, that would mean he was two years older than his father when his father died. I'd like to know how this trick could be done!

Most translations have rectified this but the KJV and NKJV stubbornly refuse to, even when it couldn't be more clear it's a mistake.

Thanks. I'll make note of that in my Bible.

 

[Behold]

The Bible wasn't written in English. It is not God's error, but man's.

That is your excuse for trying to prove there are errors in God's word?

Listen, There are 30 K. GREEK New Testaments, obo, all complete., and about 25 of them are "man corrupted".

Then There are Origen's "texts". 1st Century.
There are Latin Texts.. (See Jerome) See the "cult of the Virgin".

So, none of that is the Bible.

Let me show the reader something..
= God is always bringing the end to pass... regarding all we have understood as history, right until Jesus comes back., And then there will be a bit more.
However , regarding the "church", the "body of Christ", there is an end to it, there is a "the last one in".. and its not far from now, reader.

So, God understood within His Foreknowledge, that in the End times, that are the last 6-700 years.. there is going to be a universal language and He brought this to pass and that Language is : ENGLISH...
English is the universal language Currency. Its the Language that all countries want to learn, as its sort of like the US DOLLAR..
Everyone uses it.
So, this is PREknown by God, a long time ago, and that is why the ENGLISH Language Bibles, are the Bibles.
This is by God's design.
So, when you find people who have no respect for the Bible, and want to "prove errors", and try to make you believe that the "original Greek" is the Bible, when in fact there is no such thing as an "original Greek"... bible, as there are many Greek New Testaments.

So the SPIRITUAL rule is.. .when you find a bible corrector, you are dealing with a spiritual situation, and when you find someone that says that you can't trust the bible.. which is basically the same as trying to prove there are "errors in it", then you have to immediately realize what you are dealing with, as God didn't cause anyone to become that one.

 

[1stCenturyLady]

That is your excuse for trying to prove there are errors in God's word?

Listen, There are 30 K. GREEK New Testaments, obo, all complete., and about 25 of them are "man corrupted".

Then There are Origen's "texts". 1st Century.
There are Latin Texts.. (See Jerome) See the "cult of the Virgin".

So, none of that is the Bible.

Let me show the reader something..
= God is always bringing the end to pass... regarding of all we have understood as history, right until Jesus comes back., And then there will be a bit more.
However , regarding the "church", the "body of Christ", there is an end to it, there is a "the last one in".. and its not far from now, reader.

So, God understood within His Foreknowledge, that in the End times, that are the last 6-700 years.. there is going to be a universal language and He brought this to pass and that Language is : ENGLISH...
English is the universal language Currency. Its the Language that all countries want to learn, as its sort of like the US DOLLAR..
Everyone uses it.
So, this is PREknown by God, a long time ago, and that is why the ENGLISH Language Bibles, are the Bibles.
This is by God's design.
So, when you find people who have no respect for the Bible, and want to "prove errors", and try to make you believe that the "original Greek" is the Bible, when in fact there is no such thing as an "original Greek"... bible, as there are many Greek New Testaments.

So the SPIRITUAL rule is.. .when you find a bible corrector, you are dealing with a spiritual situation, and when you find someone that says that you can't trust the bible.. which is basically the same as trying to prove there are "errors in it", then you have to immediately realize what you are dealing with, as God didn't cause anyone to become that one.

If my post wasn't helpful to you, and you want to believe that all Israel were filled with God's Spirit, know that there are others like me who depend on the Word of God to be accurate and want to know about verses as I shared. Behold, be careful how you talk to me or I won't be able to talk to you anymore, seeing as I couldn't even have lunch with someone like you and your reviling and misjudging my heart. 1 Corinthians 5:11

 

[Jay Ross]

The issue you are seeing is that the Biblical text context is not always conveyed when we try and use modern English to express a concept that is embedded in one Hebrew word and the English requires a page of text to convey the same meaning.

 

[Rockerduck]

I don't see the problem. The Holy Spirit can be within their midst(them) or in the midst of them They both mean the same thing.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

I use the NKJV and even though this error is in it, it is the only one I've found, and I've written in it the correction.

Isa. 63:11 NKJV
Then he remembered the days of old,
Moses and his people, saying:
“Where is He who brought them up out of the sea
With the [c]shepherd of His flock?
Where is He who put His Holy Spirit within them,

NASB:
Then His people remembered the days of old, of Moses. Where is He who brought them up out of the sea with the shepherds of His flock? Where is He who put His Holy Spirit in the midst of them,

If you know of any other errors let me know.

What you need to do is understand the difference in how the 16th century English and 21st Century English u8se words and how they define them.

Your example is not an error.

 

[Behold]

If my post wasn't helpful to you, and you want to believe that all Israel were filled with God's Spirit,

What i said to you, was not about your verses.

I simply told you that when you are on a Christian forum, and your Thread is attempting to cast doubt on the word of God, then the reality is, the Holy Spirit would not lead anyone to do that to the word of God..
And because you told us you are a self proclaimed "seer" and you can't SEE OR understand the real issue with your Thread, then... as i said... .this is a "situation" that you are proving yourself to own.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

What i said to you, was not about your verses.

I simply told you that when you are on a Christian forum, and your Thread is attempting to cast doubt on the word of God, then the reality is, the Holy Spirit would not lead anyone to do that to the word of God..
And because you told us you are a self proclaimed "seer" and you can't SEE OR understand the real issue with your Thread, then... as i said... .this is a "situation" that you are proving yourself to own.

Could not have said it better about you owning your own denouncing of TULIP. You own it on your own as you cannot bring Gods Word to bear on those five points! The Holy Spirit would never lead anyone to refuse to use gods Word when they pretend to speak in His name.

 

[Behold]

Could not have said it better about you owning your own denouncing of TULIP.

Trying to equivocate "calvin's doctrines of devils" with the word of God, is not an honest thing to try to prove,.. that is incredibly deceitful.... but a Calvinist can't help themselves., can they @Ronald Nolette ...

 

[Ronald Nolette]

Trying to equivocate "calvin's doctrines of devils" with the word of God, is not an honest thing to try to prove,.. that is incredibly deceitful.... but a Calvinist can't help themselves., can they @Ronald Nolette ...

BLAH BLAH BLAGH, just trying to divert from the fact you cannot show from God why TULIP is wrong. You are a fraud

 

[Behold]

BLAH BLAH BLAGH, just trying to divert from the fact you cannot show from God why TULIP is wrong. You are a fraud

Calvinism is a "doctrine of Devils".

You can't change it .

Let me show you what the Devil did...

He watched Martin Luther and a few like Him revolt against the "Dark Ages" Church.. the "cult of the virgin".
This revolt, was God breathed Truth coming out of Cult of Mary, theological darkness.

So what did the Devil do?
He raised up John Calvin, at the same time, to POISON, the Protestant Church, with Calvinism.

That is what the devil does.
He bring the LIES to try to hinder the truth., always.

 

[AW Bowman]

May I interject a comment or two? First of all, there is not a single English translation of the original Bible text that is 100% correct. Every translation contains errors. For those who do extensive Bible study using multiple translations and referencing back to original language texts, many of these errors can be identified. It is not the original word of God in original biblical texts/languages that are being questioned. Rather, it is the translations. Even the translations into other languages (non-English languages) contain “errors”.

When I teach (not often). I use the King James version. Why? Because it is the most popular and accepted translation among the Western church, especially here in the United States. Even so, I frequently must make correction comments during the course. For example, the word. "Church" does not exist in the original New Testament Greek text. Nor does it exist in the Septuagint where the Greek word ἐκκλεσιας, ἡ is a translation of the Hebrew word קָהָל, the assembly of the Israelites.

In the New Testament, the Greek word generally means."An assembly of men called out or called forth for a purpose."

A more telling error is found in acts 12:4, where the only time you find the English word Easter is in this verse. The Greek word translated as Easter is πάσχα. Except for this translator's error, the word πάσχα is correctly translated as Passover wherever else it is found in the New Testament.

Yet, the following is an example of confusion and omitting critical information from the reader: The term "Godhead". Again. it is not to be found in the original text. The following three examples demonstrate the problem. What we have are three different Greek words signifying three different aspects of God’s deity all being translated into one English word that is not well defined.

Acts 17:29 For as much then as we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Godhead [the one true God] is like unto gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art and man's device.
G2304 [Theios]
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Romans 1:20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead [the divine nature of God]; so that they are without excuse: (so…: or, that they may be)
G2305 [Theiots]
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Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead [the state of being God, i.e. the [full] essence of God’s deity expressed] bodily.
G2320 [Theots]
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So, please do not chastise those who find problems with a given translation, if they can provide scriptural (linguistic) evidence for their correction.

Added note: A forum is much like a trial juror, you hear/see the evidence and draw conclusions, i.e. you accept the evidence, question the evidence, or reject the evidence. Then you vote. After that, one moves on.

 

[Behold]

May I interject a comment or two? First of all, there is not a single English translation of the original Bible text

There is no "original bible text".. @AW Bowman .

There are the "Apostles letters", and they are the only "originals" and they are gone over 1900 yrs ago.
Not ONE remains.
Not one. "original".

What we have now... as "texts" are about 30 Koine Greek New Testaments, and most are "man corrupted" junk, and 3-5 of them, are used to create english "bibles"., according to the "accepted canon of scripture"...

So, out goes the "gospel of Thomas" and exit stage left to the : "Gospel of Mary Magdalene", and about a dozen others... obo.

So READER.. listen up..., as soon as anyone says..>>>"well the original says" or "in the Original text"...
When they say that to you...... then they have no understanding of "textual criticism", or any understanding of "manuscript evidence".

ZERO <.

What you are dealing with, is a pride filled self appointed bible corrector, and not a bible believer.... who is using some ENGLIGH Translation of some greek Lexicon, that they cant read, because its GREEK.. But they possibly can read the Translation, that is in English, and to their funny little minds they perceive that they are "reading the greek." "Understanding the Greek"..

A.) Not quite

So, they are pretending on a Forum, or in a Pulpit, or in a Commentary or Book or VIDEO.... to be an expert in "original Greek texts" yet they can't even read Koine Greek, much less speak it.

So, when you see them post HEBREW and GREEK language, and they say..>>"see here in the original we see that"... and yet.. they can't read any of it themselves,.... yet they posted it, as if they can teach it.. So in this case.. and that is 99.5% of the time... then you are dealing with a "faux" "situation" that you want to avoid.. if you're smart.


Listen...
There is NO Original Greek NT... not ONE..........there are only copies... of copies.. so,.. as soon as you hear.. "the original says".. or "let me show you what the " original Greek says".. and they can't even read it...........then you just smile and move along as you really dont have time to waste on such pretense and nonsense.... do you?

No you dont.

 

[AW Bowman]

There is no "original bible text".. @AW Bowman .

There are the "Apostles letters", and they are the only "originals" and they are gone over 1900 yrs ago.
Not ONE remains.
Not one. "original".

@Behold

Thank you for your comments. You highlighted my failure to clearly state “original [Biblical] language texts” vice “the original Bible text”. I apologize, for I mistakenly assumed everyone here would recognize the inference that I was referring to the original language documents, not the original physical documents. I hope this clears up any confusion caused by my post.

Shalom Aleichem
(Peace be unto you)

 

[Behold]

the original language documents,

There are about 30 completed Koine Greek NT Copies, that are the "extant" texts.

They are all "copies".........none are first editions.

IN other words.........You have the Apostles letters, and then you have the 1st Edition copies.
Those dont exist... what exists are "generations later" copies., but there is the occasion very early manuscript "fragment".
And not too long ago the "Dead sea scroll" showed up.
And recently, a "gospel of Thomas" showed up, but, i have not learned if this is the full text or just parts, etc.