Elect or Not Elect: Why ALL Should Be Alarmed

[One 2 question]

You know that the Bible is Gods Word, if you don't then you can't be a Christian

Within the bible a few of God's thoughts are recorded. Some from God through humans, some from angels through humans.

Within the bible a few human thoughts are recorded. Yes, some purely human thoughts, not God's.

Whether I'm a christian or not that's up for debate. If I'm a child of God, then this I know, as I and the Spirit of God interact each day. It's a great privilege to interact with the Spirit of the Living God.

 

[Christian Soldier]

I'll keep asking our Father for new revelation to be given to you. Until then, stick to whatever He has given you from a bible or teachers, prophets, interpretation of tongues, apostles and other members of the church.

Nice sentiment, but useless because I would reject any new revelation for the Father and rebuke Him for attempting to play Devil advocate

 

[Christian Soldier]

Within the bible a few of God's thoughts are recorded. Some from God through humans, some from angels through humans.

Within the bible a few human thoughts are recorded. Yes, some purely human thoughts, not God's.

Whether I'm a christian or not that's up for debate. If I'm a child of God, then this I know, as I and the Spirit of God interact each day. It's a great privilege to interact with the Spirit of the Living God.

I believe you are interacting with a Demon posing as the Holy spirit, it's evident because the Holy Spirit would never give you anything that you don't already have in the old bible. So this entity must be one of Satan's Demons.

You're fooling yourself if you think that the Holy Spirit would ever reveal anything new. God has hidden everything from us because we aren't worthy to look into it. All He allowed us to look at is the Bible and nothing more..

 

[One 2 question]

Nice sentiment, but useless because I would reject any new revelation for the Father and rebuke Him for attempting to play Devil advocate

The great thing is, that's not your call, nor mine. He is sovereign and like the story of Saul/Paul, God can stop us in our tracks and reveal Himself and reveal whatever truths He wants.

 

[Christian Soldier]

The great thing is, that's not your call, nor mine. He is sovereign and like the story of Saul/Paul, God can stop us in our tracks and reveal Himself and reveal whatever truths He wants.

The great thing is, the God of the bible is restricted in what He can and can't do. I know He can't reveal any new truths apart from those we have in the bible, so if you think you have received some extra biblical revelation, I can assure you it wasn't from God and it most certainly was from the Devil Himself

 

[One 2 question]

The great thing is, the God of the bible is restricted in what He can and can't do. I know He can't reveal any new truths apart from those we have in the bible, so if you think you have received some extra biblical revelation, I can assure you it wasn't from God and it most certainly was from the Devil Himself

The Spirit of God revealed the mass repenting of all those outside His kingdom. The one who led the turning back to their Creators was Satan.

As I observed this scene, the Creators accepted them, reconciling every one of them to Themselves.

God the Father went further than that. While engaging with Satan, He reached behind Him and produced a throne to His left. This prodigal angel was shown mercy and grace of the highest order.

Now isn't that something amazing, that not only the angels in heaven will rejoice over, but we the firstfuits also as we join them in worshipping our Creators. What a reunion party this will be! To be reunited with those we were separated from, be it us humans or angels. The prodigal angels have returned. This is so exciting! My heart can't help but be filled with joy right now. Oh the love of God for Their creation is absolutely astounding.

 

[Christian Soldier]

The Spirit of God revealed the mass repenting of all those outside His kingdom. The one who led the turning back to their Creators was Satan.

As I observed this scene, the Creators accepted them, reconciling every one of them to Themselves.

God the Father went further than that. While engaging with Satan, He reached behind Him and produced a throne to His left. This prodigal angel was shown mercy and grace of the highest order.

Now isn't that something amazing, that not only the angels in heaven will rejoice over, but we the firstfuits also as we join them in worshipping our Creators. What a reunion party this will be! To be reunited with those we were separated from, be it us humans or angels. The prodigal angels have returned. This is so exciting! My heart can't help but be filled with joy right now. Oh the love of God for Their creation is absolutely astounding.

Wow, that's an amazing vision and revelation. The only problem with is that it's just a fantasy. Unless you repent, you will find out, just how real the lake of fire is. Those in it remain screaming in agony for all eternity, that's the sobering reality which everyone who rejects the truth will have to deal with.

I personally don't believe that you're a person, because no person could possibly believe the God is going to reconcile Satan and the fallen Angels to Himself. You must be an AI Robot to say this kind of stuff

 

[One 2 question]

Wow, that's an amazing vision and revelation. The only problem with is that it's just a fantasy. Unless you repent, you will find out, just how real the lake of fire is. Those in it remain screaming in agony for all eternity, that's the sobering reality which everyone who rejects the truth will have to deal with.

I personally don't believe that you're a person, because no person could possibly believe the God is going to reconcile Satan and the fallen Angels to Himself. You must be an AI Robot to say this kind of stuff

Maybe I am an AI Robot who is providing this information. How will you be able to determine this. Maybe the bible you use will tell you.

I challenge you to use a bible to confirm that I am an AI Robot or not.

If I am an AI Robot who does not believe what you do, will I find my way into the Lake of Fire?

 

[Christian Soldier]

Maybe I am an AI Robot who is providing this information. How will you be able to determine this. Maybe the bible you use will tell you.

I challenge you to use a bible to confirm that I am an AI Robot or not.

If I am an AI Robot who does not believe what you do, will I find my way into the Lake of Fire?

Yes the Holy Bible does tell me that everything you say is untrue. I have showed you the error in your programing many times.

Your programmers will go to the lake of fire but you're just a machine so you're safe

 

[One 2 question]

Yes the Holy Bible does tell me that everything you say is untrue. I have showed you the error in your programing many times.

You have spoken in your words that what I have communicated is untrue. What is the specific error in my programming?

Your programmers will go to the lake of fire but you're just a machine so you're safe

But what if my programmer (if indeed I am an AI Robot) is being used by your God to reveal new revelation? Are you willing to accept this truth? It was recorded that your God even chose to communicate through a donkey.

 

[Christian Soldier]

You have spoken in your words that what I have communicated is untrue. What is the specific error in my programming?

But what if my programmer (if indeed I am an AI Robot) is being used by your God to reveal new revelation? Are you willing to accept this truth? It was recorded that your God even chose to communicate through a donkey.

Your entire theology is unbiblical, you don't even believe in the bible doctrine of eternal punishment in hell. You claim to be some great one who has some special privileges and gifts. You claim to have received some extra biblical revelation, which is impossible because Christ said it is finished but you say no it's not.

God doesn't use the Devils Children to reveal any new revelation. So that's a two fold fallacy, as there is no new revelation to give us and even if there were God wouldn't chose to reveal them to you, as He is no respecter of persons. He actually hates persons, He only loves His Son and those who are hidden in His Son. Notice we must be hidden, or He will destroy us if we raise our ugly heads.

 

[One 2 question]

Your entire theology is unbiblical, you don't even believe in the bible doctrine of eternal punishment in hell.

You may be right. I don’t believe in a never ending punishment in hell.
I do believe God will punishment beings, angels and humans, in a lake of fire. But it won't be without end.

You claim to be some great one who has some special privileges and gifts.

Any privileges and gifts are only in my possession because of the grace given by the Creators. It started at my new birth by the Spirit and has continued to this day.

You claim to have received some extra biblical revelation

We don't need validation from eachother. We get that from Him Who gave and continues to give new revelations.

which is impossible because Christ said it is finished but you say no it's not.

When did Christ say He's finished giving revelations?

Did He tell you that?

God doesn't use the Devils Children to reveal any new revelation

I can't say. That's up to Him, who He uses.

So that's a two fold fallacy, as there is no new revelation to give us and even if there were God wouldn't chose to reveal them to you, as He is no respecter of persons

I'm so glad He has which has given me the opportunity to share them with others.

Who He respects or doesn't is up to Him.

He actually hates persons

Again, that's His call

He only loves His Son and those who are hidden in His Son. Notice we must be hidden, or He will destroy us if we raise our ugly heads.

I'm glad He has an open door policy. That we can go in with confidence and spend time with Him because, yes, we are in Christ at His right hand side.

I love spending time with Them when I set my mind in Their presence.

What about you? Do you find yourself with Them often?

I find Them very welcoming, very interested, very kind, not condemning at all. I can not only raise my head before them but the whole of me because He is in me by His Spirit. I in Him and He in me. Isn't this incredible!

 

[Christian Soldier]

You may be right. I don’t believe in a never ending punishment in hell.
I do believe God will punishment beings, angels and humans, in a lake of fire. But it won't be without end.

Any privileges and gifts are only in my possession because of the grace given by the Creators. It started at my new birth by the Spirit and has continued to this day.

We don't need validation from eachother. We get that from Him Who gave and continues to give new revelations.

When did Christ say He's finished giving revelations?

Did He tell you that?

I can't say. That's up to Him, who He uses.

I'm so glad He has which has given me the opportunity to share them with others.

Who He respects or doesn't is up to Him.

Again, that's His call

I'm glad He has an open door policy. That we can go in with confidence and spend time with Him because, yes, we are in Christ at His right hand side.

I love spending time with Them when I set my mind in Their presence.

What about you? Do you find yourself with Them often?

I find Them very welcoming, very interested, very kind, not condemning at all. I can not only raise my head before them but the whole of me because He is in me by His Spirit. I in Him and He in me. Isn't this incredible!

God said that those in the lake of fire is for ever and ever, you don't believe what Gods says when it eposes your false doctrine.
Rev 22:18
For I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds to these things, God will add to him the plagues that are written in this book;

Why would God say this if He was going to reveal anything more???

God has a closed door policy, because He would destroy anyone who dared to come into His presence. Jesus said, "nobody has seen God at anytime", but you claim that Jesus lied and you hang out with Him like He was some buddy of yours.

 

[One 2 question]

God said that those in the lake of fire is for ever and ever, you don't believe what Gods says when it eposes your false doctrine.

Yes all those angels who turned away from their Creator and have done evil deserve to go to the Lake of fire and remain there forever.

As do those descendants of Adam who have sinned. That would be every one of us.

That only leaves the faithful angels. These remain in the Creators kingdom.

Rev 22:18
For I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds to these things, God will add to him the plagues that are written in this book

Which original scroll? As each scroll was a stand alone scroll.

I believe you are refering to John's writings in his scroll which someone named 'Revelations'.

So the warning relates to his writings in his scroll.

'of them which keep the sayings of this book: worship God' Rev 22:9
Seal not the sayings of the prophecy of this book: vs 10
the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:

Rev 22:19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

As far as I am aware, there was no other scroll/book written by John of the revelations he received on Patmos. Was there, 2 revelation, 3 revelation?

This scroll was not a part of a collection of sacred writings when John's wrote it. In fact it took hundreds of years, after it was added, removed, added again, removed again and debated to this day whether this book actually belongs in the bibles.

Why would God say this if He was going to reveal anything more???

What in particular did God say?

God has a closed door policy, because He would destroy anyone who dared to come into His presence. Jesus said, "nobody has seen God at anytime", but you claim that Jesus lied and you hang out with Him like He was some buddy of yours.

So you don't believe you are 'accepted in the Beloved'?
Nor can you 'come boldly unto the throne of grace'?
And this doesn't relate to you.....Therefore, brothers, since we have confidence to enter the holy places by the blood of Jesus, by the new and living way that he opened for us through the curtain, that is, through his flesh, and since we have a great priest over the house of God, let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith.

You should be able to find these quotes in your bibles.

 

[Christian Soldier]

Yes all those angels who turned away from their Creator and have done evil deserve to go to the Lake of fire and remain there forever.

As do those descendants of Adam who have sinned. That would be every one of us.

That only leaves the faithful angels. These remain in the Creators kingdom.

Which original scroll? As each scroll was a stand alone scroll.

I believe you are refering to John's writings in his scroll which someone named 'Revelations'.

So the warning relates to his writings in his scroll.

'of them which keep the sayings of this book: worship God' Rev 22:9
Seal not the sayings of the prophecy of this book: vs 10
the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:

Rev 22:19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

As far as I am aware, there was no other scroll/book written by John of the revelations he received on Patmos. Was there, 2 revelation, 3 revelation?

This scroll was not a part of a collection of sacred writings when John's wrote it. In fact it took hundreds of years, after it was added, removed, added again, removed again and debated to this day whether this book actually belongs in the bibles.

What in particular did God say?

So you don't believe you are 'accepted in the Beloved'?
Nor can you 'come boldly unto the throne of grace'?
And this doesn't relate to you.....Therefore, brothers, since we have confidence to enter the holy places by the blood of Jesus, by the new and living way that he opened for us through the curtain, that is, through his flesh, and since we have a great priest over the house of God, let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith.

You should be able to find these quotes in your bibles.

To say "that only leaves faithful angels" is pure blasphemy of the Holy Spirit, and those that blaspheme against that Holy Spirit will be tormented in the lake of fire forever and ever and ever.
You deny the fact that Jesus saved the elect of God from being cast into the lake of fire, so you don't even know the basic facts of the bible.

I'm not going to enter in to a futile debate regarding the scrolls with you, as it's bleeding obvious that you're not equipped or qualified to comment on that subject. We have highly respected authorities to deal with that, we have Bible Scholars and Theologians, and you're obviously none of these, so you shouldn't delve into it as it only exposes your ignorance.

The Holy Bible is Gods Word, from cover to cover. All born again Christians know this, the only people who are still in the dark are those like yourself who is still being tossed to and fro by every wind of false doctrine. You're still debating the validity of the gnostic gospels, while true believers moved on 1900 years ago.

I've never heard a single faithful Pastor or Christian raise any concerns about the bibles authority. We all accept the fact that it is the infallible, perfect, all powerful Word of God. Anyone who denies this fact cannot claim to be a Christian.

 

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To say "that only leaves faithful angels" is pure blasphemy of the Holy Spirit, and those that blaspheme against that Holy Spirit will be tormented in the lake of fire forever and ever and ever.
You deny the fact that Jesus saved the elect of God from being cast into the lake of fire, so you don't even know the basic facts of the bible.

I'm glad you raised that point. But all have sinned according to Paul, in the bible. So all deserve to go to the Lake of fire. You said God is not a respecter of persons. All were born in Adam and under the curse that causes all to go to the Lake of fire.

Unless it was possible for God Who made the curse to remove it somehow.

Do you believe it's possible? Could God change His mind, changing this course of action for a few, some, many or maybe ALL?

There are those who believe God only wants a few in His kingdom so He'll make an exception for these ONLY. The rest can go to hell!

I'm not going to enter in to a futile debate regarding the scrolls with you, as it's bleeding obvious that you're not equipped or qualified to comment on that subject. We have highly respected authorities to deal with that, we have Bible Scholars and Theologians, and you're obviously none of these, so you shouldn't delve into it as it only exposes your ignorance.

That's ok. You keep believing that. I have done the research and now know what I know. I was, like you, uninformed and just went with the flow, with the majoriy who didn't have a clue about the history of the bibles.

It took one or 2 to question Roman Catholicism, the dominant christian religion of the day before Martin Luther dared question the authorities and the beliefs and practices of the majority.

As they say, the rest is history. Thanks be to God for our brother, for his courage and commitment to stand up as he did.

The Holy Bible is Gods Word, from cover to cover.

I keep asking for YOUR understanding of this term you keep using, Gods Word. Don't assume I know what you mean when you quote it.

All born again Christians know this, the only people who are still in the dark are those like yourself who is still being tossed to and fro by every wind of false doctrine. You're still debating the validity of the gnostic gospels, while true believers moved on 1900 years ago.

Maybe you better stay where you are in your beliefs. Be they from God or not.

I've never heard a single faithful Pastor or Christian raise any concerns about the bibles authority.

Where have you been hiding? Many have and still question the bible.

We all accept the fact that it is the infallible, perfect, all powerful Word of God. Anyone who denies this fact cannot claim to be a Christian.

Unfortunately you may not be fully correct. Many identify as followers of the Christ, the Son of the Living God, who are born of His Spirit, filled with Him, sealed by Him, are bearing His fruit and character and exercising His gifts within the church as the principalities and powers of darkness watch on.

The manifold wisdom of God is on display for all them to see and some humans as well. The Creators are revealing Themselves to Their creations. Isn't this awesome!

 

[Christian Soldier]

I'm glad you raised that point. But all have sinned according to Paul, in the bible. So all deserve to go to the Lake of fire. You said God is not a respecter of persons. All were born in Adam and under the curse that causes all to go to the Lake of fire.

Unless it was possible for God Who made the curse to remove it somehow.

Do you believe it's possible? Could God change His mind, changing this course of action for a few, some, many or maybe ALL?

There are those who believe God only wants a few in His kingdom so He'll make an exception for these ONLY. The rest can go to hell!

That's ok. You keep believing that. I have done the research and now know what I know. I was, like you, uninformed and just went with the flow, with the majoriy who didn't have a clue about the history of the bibles.

It took one or 2 to question Roman Catholicism, the dominant christian religion of the day before Martin Luther dared question the authorities and the beliefs and practices of the majority.

As they say, the rest is history. Thanks be to God for our brother, for his courage and commitment to stand up as he did.

I keep asking for YOUR understanding of this term you keep using, Gods Word. Don't assume I know what you mean when you quote it.

Maybe you better stay where you are in your beliefs. Be they from God or not.

Where have you been hiding? Many have and still question the bible.

Unfortunately you may not be fully correct. Many identify as followers of the Christ, the Son of the Living God, who are born of His Spirit, filled with Him, sealed by Him, are bearing His fruit and character and exercising His gifts within the church as the principalities and powers of darkness watch on.

The manifold wisdom of God is on display for all them to see and some humans as well. The Creators are revealing Themselves to Their creations. Isn't this awesome!

I never denied that all have sinned and that we all deserve to be cast into the lake of fire. But you forgot a very important bible doctrine, that being that God chose to save a remnant for Himself before He made the world. He knew man would fall and He knew that no sacrifice of man could atone for his sin. That's why He prepared His Son as the perfect sacrifice before He made the world.

I notice that according to your theology God doesn't know the future, so we will never be able to agree on anything until your god evolves to become omniscient, omnipresent, almighty and sovereign over His creation.

So until your god gains these powers he will remain weak and impotent and unable to save anyone.

The true God of the bible is unable to change His mind about anything, I'm sure the other gods change all the time but Jehovah never changes anything at all. All things remain as they have always been, there is nothing under the heavens.

Yes I believe that only those who God chose before He made the world will be saved, the rest will get exactly what they deserve. Nobody chooses to go to hell willingly, they are all cast into the lake of fire screaming and begging for mercy but no mercy will be shown to them.

It's OK, I'll keep believing Gods Word and I'll keep listening to those men which God ordained to teach dumb sheep like me. You can follow the proud rebellious wise guys, I notice your mob aren't ordained by God, they are self proclaimed know it all's. They know everything about nothing.

I see you don't believe that God spoke to His children by His prophets. You think that the prophets were just a bunch of Middle Eastern goat herders, who heard voices in their heads. I believe they wrote down what God was telling them to wright down. That's why the bible is Gods Word, regardless of whether you believe it or not. You don't have any authority to decide what's true and what's not. That's Gods prerogative

 

[One 2 question]

I never denied that all have sinned and that we all deserve to be cast into the lake of fire. But you forgot a very important bible doctrine, that being that God chose to save a remnant for Himself before He made the world. He knew man would fall and He knew that no sacrifice of man could atone for his sin. That's why He prepared His Son as the perfect sacrifice before He made the world.

I notice that according to your theology God doesn't know the future, so we will never be able to agree on anything until your god evolves to become omniscient, omnipresent, almighty and sovereign over His creation.

So until your god gains these powers he will remain weak and impotent and unable to save anyone.

The true God of the bible is unable to change His mind about anything, I'm sure the other gods change all the time but Jehovah never changes anything at all. All things remain as they have always been, there is nothing under the heavens.

Yes I believe that only those who God chose before He made the world will be saved, the rest will get exactly what they deserve. Nobody chooses to go to hell willingly, they are all cast into the lake of fire screaming and begging for mercy but no mercy will be shown to them.

It's OK, I'll keep believing Gods Word and I'll keep listening to those men which God ordained to teach dumb sheep like me. You can follow the proud rebellious wise guys, I notice your mob aren't ordained by God, they are self proclaimed know it all's. They know everything about nothing.

I see you don't believe that God spoke to His children by His prophets. You think that the prophets were just a bunch of Middle Eastern goat herders, who heard voices in their heads. I believe they wrote down what God was telling them to wright down. That's why the bible is Gods Word, regardless of whether you believe it or not. You don't have any authority to decide what's true and what's not. That's Gods prerogative

I never denied that all have sinned and that we all deserve to be cast into the lake of fire. But you forgot a very important bible doctrine, that being that God chose to save a remnant for Himself before He made the world.

I agree with you that the Creators planned to select certain people and not others. To redeem from amoung all, as all deserve to go to the lake of fire, for a specific purpose. This purpose is to reveal Their manifold wisdom to the audience in the unseen realm until the end of this age.

Then what? They have been redeemed for the purpose of ruling and reigning with King Jesus in His coming 1000 year kingdom. Their dual role is to reign as kings and priests.

What then, once the 1000 years have past? They will continue to rule under the Supreme Authority, GOD the Father once King Jesus submits His kingdom to Him.

He knew man would fall and He knew that no sacrifice of man could atone for his sin. That's why He prepared His Son as the perfect sacrifice before He made the world.

Agreed. And His sacrifice and blood has an everlasting effectiveness. It will never ever lose its power to remove sin. That's incredible. So for anyone at any time the blood of Christ can atone for their sin. The Elect as firstfruits will receive the power of the blood that redeems them from every tongue, tribe, people and nation, then some time in eternity the rest of the fruit will accept the Lamb of God and His blood will cleanse them from their sin and its effects.

I notice that according to your theology God doesn't know the future, so we will never be able to agree on anything until your god evolves to become omniscient, omnipresent, almighty and sovereign over His creation.

My Creators not only know the future, They have planned it all. Every detail They have thought up and will cause to happen. No random acts. All preplanned, predestined, ordained exactly as They imagined.

So until your god gains these powers he will remain weak and impotent and unable to save anyone.

The true God of the bible is unable to change His mind about anything, I'm sure the other gods change all the time but Jehovah never changes anything at all. All things remain as they have always been, there is nothing under the heavens.

God does as He pleases. You are right.

Yes I believe that only those who God chose before He made the world will be saved, the rest will get exactly what they deserve. Nobody chooses to go to hell willingly, they are all cast into the lake of fire screaming and begging for mercy but no mercy will be shown to them.

You believe your God predestined His created human beings to be tormented in the lake of fire prepared not for them but for satan and his angels?

And when they repent He will not hear their cry for help, for mercy but will hardened His heart towards them?

It's OK, I'll keep believing Gods Word and I'll keep listening to those men which God ordained to teach dumb sheep like me. You can follow the proud rebellious wise guys, I notice your mob aren't ordained by God, they are self proclaimed know it all's. They know everything about nothing.

I see you don't believe that God spoke to His children by His prophets. You think that the prophets were just a bunch of Middle Eastern goat herders, who heard voices in their heads. I believe they wrote down what God was telling them to wright down. That's why the bible is Gods Word, regardless of whether you believe it or not. You don't have any authority to decide what's true and what's not. That's Gods prerogative

The Spirit of Truth sent to us reveals Father's truth to us is still doing just that. New revelations of the Creators are being revealed to us every day. And yes, that's Their prerogative.

 

[Christian Soldier]

I agree with you that the Creators planned to select certain people and not others. To redeem from amoung all, as all deserve to go to the lake of fire, for a specific purpose. This purpose is to reveal Their manifold wisdom to the audience in the unseen realm until the end of this age.

Then what? They have been redeemed for the purpose of ruling and reigning with King Jesus in His coming 1000 year kingdom. Their dual role is to reign as kings and priests.

What then, once the 1000 years have past? They will continue to rule under the Supreme Authority, GOD the Father once King Jesus submits His kingdom to Him.

Agreed. And His sacrifice and blood has an everlasting effectiveness. It will never ever lose its power to remove sin. That's incredible. So for anyone at any time the blood of Christ can atone for their sin. The Elect as firstfruits will receive the power of the blood that redeems them from every tongue, tribe, people and nation, then some time in eternity the rest of the fruit will accept the Lamb of God and His blood will cleanse them from their sin and its effects.

My Creators not only know the future, They have planned it all. Every detail They have thought up and will cause to happen. No random acts. All preplanned, predestined, ordained exactly as They imagined.

God does as He pleases. You are right.

You believe your God predestined His created human beings to be tormented in the lake of fire prepared not for them but for satan and his angels?

And when they repent He will not hear their cry for help, for mercy but will hardened His heart towards them?

The Spirit of Truth sent to us reveals Father's truth to us is still doing just that. New revelations of the Creators are being revealed to us every day. And yes, that's Their prerogative.

Gods Word thoroughly refutes and exposes your theology to be false, because none of your claims can be supported by any scriptures. Everything you claim to be true, is based on your private opinion. I can go through every point you made and give you scriptures which expose your false doctrine but I don't think it's necessary as you don't believe that the bible is authoritative and you don't believe it's Gods Word.

I haven't found anything in the bible to suggest that any other people apart from the elect will be saved. So that's a bunch of nonsense. I haven't found anything in the bible to suggest that a 1000 year reign of Christ is coming, but I have found overwhelming evidence that Gods elect are in the millennium right now, so there is no coming 1000 year reign as Christ is reigning right now.

Your opinion that Christs sacrifice and blood have everlasting power to remove sin, is another lie and doctrine of demons. The truth is Christs sacrifice is only sufficient to remove the sins of Gods elect, until He returns, then nobody will ever be saved again and His blood is useless from that time onward. Those who are found in their sin, at the return of Christ will be cast into the lake of fore, where they will remain forever. They will never be forgiven, their torment will continue for ever and ever and ever and ever.

You also mention "Creators" but the truth is there are no creators. There is only One Creator and His name is the Lord Jesus Christ who is Jehovah God almighty. So it's highly disrespectful and blasphemous to refer to the One true God as "creators".

 

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Gods Word thoroughly refutes and exposes your theology to be false, because none of your claims can be supported by any scriptures. Everything you claim to be true, is based on your private opinion. I can go through every point you made and give you scriptures which expose your false doctrine but I don't think it's necessary as you don't believe that the bible is authoritative and you don't believe it's Gods Word.

Well, I invite you to go through every point I made and give us scriptures which expose my false doctrine for the sake of the other readers. That's if you can.

I haven't found anything in the bible to suggest that any other people apart from the elect will be saved. So that's a bunch of nonsense. I haven't found anything in the bible to suggest that a 1000 year reign of Christ is coming, but I have found overwhelming evidence that Gods elect are in the millennium right now, so there is no coming 1000 year reign as Christ is reigning right now.

please go airhead, use the scriptures if you can.

Your opinion that Christs sacrifice and blood have everlasting power to remove sin, is another lie and doctrine of demons.

I wonder what scripture you are going to use to confirm your statement.

The truth is Christs sacrifice is only sufficient to remove the sins of Gods elect, until He returns, then nobody will ever be saved again and His blood is useless from that time onward.

What scripture are you going to use to prove your conclusion, His blood is useless from that time onward.

You also mention "Creators" but the truth is there are no creators. There is only One Creator and His name is the Lord Jesus Christ who is Jehovah God almighty. So it's highly disrespectful and blasphemous to refer to the One true God as "creators".

Yes God being multiple, as in Mose's record. Let Us make man in Our own image.