Eating pork

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Curtis

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You use this scripture to justify your violation when the context of this is not about foods....it is about people. This vision of Peter's was in direct connection to
the messengers sent from Cornelius the Centurian.......but no, you choose to deliberately take it out of its context to satisfy your carnal desires....as you do other scriptures!
The gentiles were considered unclean and defiled and shut out of the covenant for eating unclean foods, already answered in my posts, and it is because God cleansed all animals, that gentiles are no longer unclean.
God said He cleansed them and to stop calling them unclean. You either believe and obey the unequivocal statement, or cling to the ended law of Moses.
 

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The gentiles were considered unclean and defiled and shut out of the covenant for eating unclean foods, already answered in my posts, and it is because God cleansed all animals, that gentiles are no longer unclean.
God said He cleansed them and to stop calling them unclean. You either believe and obey the unequivocal statement, or cling to the ended law of Moses.
regrettably Curtis, your answer here indicates your understanding of the Gospel is massively lacking!
 
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I love a good goy bagel with cream cheese and bacon sandwich. If I keel over from a "poor" diet, I'll be standing in God's presence with the saints. Seems like a win win situation to me.
And you, being dead in your trespasses and the uncircumcision of your flesh, He has made alive together with Him, having forgiven you all trespasses, 14 having wiped out the handwriting of requirements that was against us, which was contrary to us. And He has taken it out of the way, having nailed it to the cross. 15 Having disarmed principalities and powers, He made a public spectacle of them, triumphing over them in it.
16 So let no one judge you in food or in drink, or regarding a festival or a new moon or sabbaths, 17 which are a shadow of things to come, but the substance is of Christ
. Colossians 2:13-17

You can keep your shadows. I'll stick with the Lord.
 

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I wonder why Jesus chose a herd of swine for the unclean spirits to go into, drive them mad, and then cast themselves into a lake to drown.

Isa 66:17 They that sanctify themselves, and purify themselves in the gardens behind one tree in the midst, eating swine's flesh, and the abomination, and the mouse, shall be consumed together, saith the LORD.

I'm not opposed to pork. I like bacon as much as the next guy. And we know whatsoever God has made is good and acceptable with thanksgiving.

So why the stigma about swine?
Pigs wallow in their own poop. They are very fatty.
I believe it has more to do with the characteristics of the pig, more so than the animal itself.
What is the reason for the cleft hoof and the chewing of the cud?
Sheep roam free and graze like cows. Pigs are kept in pens.
We know that the law is spiritual and whatever is written in it is for our learning spiritual truths.

So what spiritual understanding do we receive when considering swine and not to eat of it?
Beware the leaven of the Pharisees.. we know that that refers to their teachings and doctrines.
But what does swines flesh refer too?

Mat 7:6 Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.

We read that dogs in some instances refer to gentiles or mixed races like the samaritan woman who said that even the dogs get crumbs from the table.
What does it mean to cast your pearls before swine?

Again in the parable of the prodigal son:
Luk 15:15 And he went and joined himself to a citizen of that country; and he sent him into his fields to feed swine.
Luk 15:16 And he would fain have filled his belly with the husks that the swine did eat: and no man gave unto him.

Who are they that sanctify themselves and purify themselves?
Lots of clues, yet still a mystery?

just thinking..
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I wonder why Jesus chose a herd of swine for the unclean spirits to go into, drive them mad, and then cast themselves into a lake to drown.

Isa 66:17 They that sanctify themselves, and purify themselves in the gardens behind one tree in the midst, eating swine's flesh, and the abomination, and the mouse, shall be consumed together, saith the LORD.

I'm not opposed to pork. I like bacon as much as the next guy. And we know whatsoever God has made is good and acceptable with thanksgiving.

So why the stigma about swine?
Pigs wallow in their own poop. They are very fatty.
I believe it has more to do with the characteristics of the pig, more so than the animal itself.
What is the reason for the cleft hoof and the chewing of the cud?
Sheep roam free and graze like cows. Pigs are kept in pens.
We know that the law is spiritual and whatever is written in it is for our learning spiritual truths.

So what spiritual understanding do we receive when considering swine and not to eat of it?
Beware the leaven of the Pharisees.. we know that that refers to their teachings and doctrines.
But what does swines flesh refer too?

Mat 7:6 Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.

We read that dogs in some instances refer to gentiles or mixed races like the samaritan woman who said that even the dogs get crumbs from the table.
What does it mean to cast your pearls before swine?

Again in the parable of the prodigal son:
Luk 15:15 And he went and joined himself to a citizen of that country; and he sent him into his fields to feed swine.
Luk 15:16 And he would fain have filled his belly with the husks that the swine did eat: and no man gave unto him.

Who are they that sanctify themselves and purify themselves?
Lots of clues, yet still a mystery?

just thinking..
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@Ziggy There is also Peter's vision in Acts about some foods that were formerly unclean, no longer to be considered so. An underlying idea also is that Jewish believers in the Lord Jesus should not fear being associated with Gentile believers in the Lord Jesus.
 
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@Ziggy There is also Peter's vision in Acts about some foods that were formerly unclean, no longer to be considered so. An underlying idea also is that Jewish believers in the Lord Jesus should not fear being associated with Gentile believers in the Lord Jesus.
I noticed those verses got covered quite a bit in the previous posts. I just thought I'd bring a different dish to share at the table.
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I noticed those verses got covered quite a bit in the previous posts. I just thought I'd bring a different dish to share at the table.
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@Ziggy Oh I know I probably repeat myself.

Good to have various ppl looking at Scriptures quoted from different angles...
 
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Hi, I hope I am posting in the right forum. Sorry if I'm mistaken.

The Old Testament says we should not eat pork (Leviticus 11:7) so how come we eat some?

It's no longer a Salvation issue.

But it still... is a health issue.

Same thing with eating shellfish (shrimp, lobster, crab, clams, oysters, etc.). It's because God designed those as scavengers to cleanse the earth. A hog is a scavenger. So is catfish (no scales). So are buzzards, dogs, etc.

The way Mad Cow disease got started years ago in Britain was because some idiot started putting animal products in cow feed. God designed cows to process grains, not meat.

This is why God gave us His list of healthy meats, because those were not designed to be scavengers. Yet we have liberty in Christ Jesus. So like Apostle Paul said, if you get invited to a non-Christian house for dinner, eat what's put before you for The Gospel's sake. And whatever is sold in the shambles (market), eat that, meaning eat to live if shellfish is all they have then.

But will you try to eat according to God's health food list when it's available? Well, ask yourself, do you want your body to be more healthy?
 
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According to the fourteenth chapter of Romans; the Christian diet is allowed
to be a matter of opinion; while strictly prohibited for debate.
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Hi, I hope I am posting in the right forum. Sorry if I'm mistaken.

The Old Testament says we should not eat pork (Leviticus 11:7) so how come we eat some?

And He *said to them, “Are you so lacking in understanding also? Do you not understand that whatever goes into the man from outside cannot defile him, because it does not go into his heart, but into his stomach, and is eliminated?” (Thus He declared all foods clean.)
Mark 7:18-19
 

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Hi, I hope I am posting in the right forum. Sorry if I'm mistaken.

The Old Testament says we should not eat pork (Leviticus 11:7) so how come we eat some?

I'm not sure. I don't eat it either.
 

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According to the fourteenth chapter of Romans; the Christian diet is allowed
to be a matter of opinion; while strictly prohibited for debate.
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Rom. 14 is about vegetarians judging meat eaters and vice versa. It has absolutely nothing to do with Paul supposedly relaxing the dietary law when he told plenty of people in the Acts narrative that he still believed in the authority of the Law. If he believed in the authority of the Law, then he obviously didn't tell people that eating unclean was a matter of opinion when God was crystal clear on the fact that eating unclean meat is just a much an abomination as practicing homosexuality or witchcraft. A logical person has to wonder why people think eating unclean meat suddenly became ok after Christ's death when they wouldn't make the same argument for homosexuality or witchcraft.
 

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That's for sure!
God is the factor my dear sister .
It dont matter what genes i have or what jeans i wear , THE LORD is in control . I die not a second before HE determines
nor will i live a second longer . My grandma had poor genes , well according to the heart . She had poor valves .
She died with a smile on her face at ninety five . Or i guess she had a smile .
In the end , we live as long as GOD has determined . Now let all that breathes air praise the glorious Lord .
had an uncle , the man was still breathing air at one hundred and five . We live as long as the LORD says so .
And if a lamb departs this earth , YA GOTTA KNOW ITS IN A FAR BETTER PLACE .
Just sing to the LORD dear sister . Sing to the glorious LORD . Peace is found in the LORD . And peace alone cometh of HIM .
Peace , i say not as the world giveth , for in this world dont expect peace . But iN JESUS we have the peace that abounds no matter
what comes against us . Just lift those hands up sister . let the LORD be praised .
 

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I’ll only eat pork with a spork.
And I will not eat in in the rain
I will not eat it on a train
Just dont eat those green eggs with ham . This sounds so familiar to a story line
i heard from mama . She read it to me when i was almost four . Its hard to remember all of it my dear sister .
I think it came from dr seuss . OH WAIT , WAIT DONT SAY THAT NAME , the liberals accuse it of racism .
What a tanked world , what a delusional world we now live in .
 
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