Don’t fool yourself into believing that one party or ideology represents Jesus more than another.

[Naomanos]

If you're going to quote, use the KJV.

And if you don't read the KJV?

If you notice I read the NRSV. So all my quotes come from it.

 

[Naomanos]

You write as if a wife in a abusive relationship has no options "Wrong" the wife has full biblical standing to legally separate, and she is to remain unmarried, and the husband isnt to divorce his wife, it's that simple

And if there is no legal separation in the state?

 

[TLHKAJ]

And if you don't read the KJV?

If you notice I read the NRSV. So all my quotes come from it.

I have nothing against people who use other versions. I just trust the KJV because so many other versions change words and remove verses from the Bible. I have read the KJV since I came to Christ at age 13. It makes sense to me.

 

[Naomanos]

You speak as though you are blind to spiritual warfare even existing.

I most certainly do, but I don't see it in politics. What I see are men and women on both sides trying to do what they feel is best for their constituents.

Do I agree with everything that goes on in politics? Nope! However, I do think they are trying.

 

[Naomanos]

Guilty of what?

I will not get into a round and round on this. I believe he's guilty and I will leave it at that.

 

[Naomanos]

Guilty because CNN and MSNBC said so, liberals following the leftust agenda in lies and deceit

Ahh, I will comment on this.

This seems to be the typical goto and its an assumption and you know what they say about assuming?

I don't watch either of those news outlets nor do I follow some agenda. If I followed the leftist agenda I wouldn't vote for Republicans at times. I would only vote Democrat.

 

[Naomanos]

Legal Separation, get away from the abuse and stay unmarried, it's that simple

Amd if there is no such thing as legal separation in the state?

What protection is there then for either the woman or the man?

 

[Naomanos]

I have nothing against people who use other versions. I just trust the KJV because so many other versions change words and remove verses from the Bible. I have read the KJV since I came to Christ at age 13. It makes sense to me.

Fair enough.

My first Bible was the NIV Men's Devotional Bible that was given to me by my ex-wife. I still actually have it. I also have several other versions, except the KJV as I have tried to read it in the past, but get distracted by what I consider the archaic language. I failed Shakespeare in High School, so it's no wonder I seem to be unable to read the KJV.

I have settled on the NRSV as my goto.

 

[McFearless]

Ahh, I will comment on this.

This seems to be the typical goto and its an assumption and you know what they say about assuming?

I don't watch either of those news outlets nor do I follow some agenda. If I followed the leftist agenda I wouldn't vote for Republicans at times. I would only vote Democrat.

@Naomanos
He is not interested in the truth, he is calling everybody leftists, he is only viewing things from a political perspective, not a Christian one..

 

[Naomanos]

@Naomanos
He is not interested in the truth, he is calling everybody leftists, he is only viewing things from a political perspective, not a Christian one..

I am starting to see that myself.

I really dislike going round and round with people. So I tend to bow out of circular arguments and I was starting to feel like that is what was happening.

 

[Taken]

@McFearless
Per your opening post, I agree with your Dad.

The US was established as a Republic, based on Biblical Principles, And Liberty Of it’s Citizens.

The Broad Falling Away From the Republic To a Democracy began the Downfall of Liberty that is Currently Revealing the Falling Away Of a Democracy TO Dictatorial Communism.

In Jesus’ Perspective ...
God IS the:
Master Creator and Maker and Controller
OF All things.

A Republic Form Of Government Recognizes the Servants OF the Government ARE Servants OF the Citizens, Per Gods Principles.

A Democracy Form Of Government Establishes A Few as the “Masters” OF the Citizens, Per “Their” Whims And Ideologies, And Philosophies....And “Their” Efforts Reveal, the Bit by Bit, Removal OF God From the Big Picture, “From infancy TO adulthood”.

Communism Perpetuates the mimicking OF ONE Master over the Whole World;
...And THAT One is “A MAN”!

Inasmuch as it is necessary to Divide the People at large (and the current Success OF THAT Division) Between God the Master of the World AND “a MAN” Master OF the World”....
There ARE Currently Communist Masters OF individual Nations, “sharing the Same Communist Ideologies”....
*HOWEVER...
Not to Overlook...Every “Sitting Master” OF Every “Individual Nation” WANTS TO BE THE “Permanent” TOP Dog Sitting Master OF the Whole World”
*CURRENTLY...
Under the Organization OF the “UNITED nations” OF the World, the Individual Nations MASTERS “Take Turns” (I believe the rotation is every 6 months), SITTING, AS Top Dog, President.
*DO NOT BE NAIVE...
“They All Are Privately Backroom Plotting Against Each-other...FOR the “Permanent Top Dog Position” OF World Master.
*DO NOT OVERLOOK HISTORY...
“There IS always A top dog RELIGIOUS Side-Kick OF the World Master”.
* The RELIGIOUS “Side-kicks” “Position/Job” IS TO promote....”A” god.

* IT is “WHO” the Religious Side-Kick “Promotes” IS “A” god...THAT reveals
“the Religious mans “Standing”...
In Standing WITH God Almighty...or a Man.
* CURRENTLY...The MOST famous World Renown “Religious” sitting “father Of his flock”, IS the “pope”.
* The “pope” IS also Head Master OF “his NATION”.
* As Head Master OF his Nation...his NATION is NOT a MEMBER OF the United Nations!
* The “pope” travels, Sends dignitaries, To Individual Nations....Promoting...”ONE God.”
* Some people Speculate the pope Might be the THE anti-Christ...
* HOWEVER...it IS, A FALSE PROPHET... who WILL “step into” the “Religious Position OF Promoting A Single MAN, World Master, AS “a god” OF his Flock.
* The Speculation IS:
Once the Roundtable Of UN Member Nation Masters Duke it Out amongst themselves To Establish ONE PERMANENT Sitting World Master...
The “sitting pope” IS already established AS a world Religious “father” TO lead his flock into Accepting WHOM (his supposed infallible word Declares) IS “god”.

* God Created AND Made Mankind.. Good; (NOT Perfect).

* God provided mankind (Having Fallen Away From Goodness) “A WAY” BY, THROUGH, OF Gods Word...FOR any man To BECOME “Restored TO Good”, Via Gods Power, WITH Gods Faithful Promise, OF “Whole”. (body, soul, spirit) “PERFECTION”...
BY, THROUGH, OF Lord God Almighty...
NOT ...”Mankind”.

* IT is Not a Mystery TO Observe...
“WHO” ...a parent, teacher, neighbor, organization, employers, Government Reps, Religious clerics...“WHO” promote
MAN...IS the Answer And Way....
For Restoring Goodness and Establishing Peace And Safety IN the World...BY A FEW controlling The Worlds Wealth.

It’s a Cunning LIE.
Jesus Promoted God is the Creator and Maker...And Every Individuals Freewill To Choose God Be Their Master, Their Peacemaker, Their Safety-net....
Not ... A mystery of WHICH men promote An “others” MAN’S Wealth IN “Their” Control...Leads To World “peace and safety”.

Yes...”politics” and “religion” Are separate “things”....Yet... “Principles”
Of every Individual Become The “Issue” Of Every Individuals choices to Agree OR Reject what other men’s Principles ARE.

You were fortunate to have been raised in a Nation whereby your governmental Representatives Still broadly maintained God is the Master above All.

The US began Falling Away from THAT Principle bit by bit over 100 years Ago, to “an epidemic of Falling Away as observed today.”.

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[Grailhunter]

@Grailhunter, If you often feel the need to explain what you didn’t say, to @Truth7t7. It’s because his way of debate is to manipulate and misrepresent, he knows what you said, he is just trying to muddy the water to keep you busy.

He is not the only one that does that....
Since most of what I write I am thinking of the guests that come to the site, it works for me.

 

[McFearless]

@McFearless
Per your opening post, I agree with your Dad.

The US was established as a Republic, based on Biblical Principles, And Liberty Of it’s Citizens.

The Broad Falling Away From the Republic To a Democracy began the Downfall of Liberty that is Currently Revealing the Falling Away Of a Democracy TO Dictatorial Communism.

In Jesus’ Perspective ...
God IS the:
Master Creator and Maker and Controller
OF All things.

A Republic Form Of Government Recognizes the Servants OF the Government ARE Servants OF the Citizens, Per Gods Principles.

A Democracy Form Of Government Establishes A Few as the “Masters” OF the Citizens, Per “Their” Whims And Ideologies, And Philosophies....And “Their” Efforts Reveal, the Bit by Bit, Removal OF God From the Big Picture, “From infancy TO adulthood”.

Communism Perpetuates the mimicking OF ONE Master over the Whole World;
...And THAT One is “A MAN”!

Inasmuch as it is necessary to Divide the People at large (and the current Success OF THAT Division) Between God the Master of the World AND “a MAN” Master OF the World”....
There ARE Currently Communist Masters OF individual Nations, “sharing the Same Communist Ideologies”....
*HOWEVER...
Not to Overlook...Every “Sitting Master” OF Every “Individual Nation” WANTS TO BE THE “Permanent” TOP Dog Sitting Master OF the Whole World”
*CURRENTLY...
Under the Organization OF the “UNITED nations” OF the World, the Individual Nations MASTERS “Take Turns” (I believe the rotation is every 6 months), SITTING, AS Top Dog, President.
*DO NOT BE NAIVE...
“They All Are Privately Backroom Plotting Against Each-other...FOR the “Permanent Top Dog Position” OF World Master.
*DO NOT OVERLOOK HISTORY...
“There IS always A top dog RELIGIOUS Side-Kick OF the World Master”.
* The RELIGIOUS “Side-kicks” “Position/Job” IS TO promote....”A” god.

* IT is “WHO” the Religious Side-Kick “Promotes” IS “A” god...THAT reveals
“the Religious mans “Standing”...
In Standing WITH God Almighty...or a Man.
* CURRENTLY...The MOST famous World Renown “Religious” sitting “father Of his flock”, IS the “pope”.
* The “pope” IS also Head Master OF “his NATION”.
* As Head Master OF his Nation...his NATION is NOT a MEMBER OF the United Nations!
* The “pope” travels, Sends dignitaries, To Individual Nations....Promoting...”ONE God.”
* Some people Speculate the pope Might be the THE anti-Christ...
* HOWEVER...it IS, A FALSE PROPHET... who WILL “step into” the “Religious Position OF Promoting A Single MAN, World Master, AS “a god” OF his Flock.
* The Speculation IS:
Once the Roundtable Of UN Member Nation Masters Duke it Out amongst themselves To Establish ONE PERMANENT Sitting World Master...
The “sitting pope” IS already established AS a world Religious “father” TO lead his flock into Accepting WHOM (his supposed infallible word Declares) IS “god”.

* God Created AND Made Mankind.. Good; (NOT Perfect).

* God provided mankind (Having Fallen Away From Goodness) “A WAY” BY, THROUGH, OF Gods Word...FOR any man To BECOME “Restored TO Good”, Via Gods Power, WITH Gods Faithful Promise, OF “Whole”. (body, soul, spirit) “PERFECTION”...
BY, THROUGH, OF Lord God Almighty...
NOT ...”Mankind”.

* IT is Not a Mystery TO Observe...
“WHO” ...a parent, teacher, neighbor, organization, employers, Government Reps, Religious clerics...“WHO” promote
MAN...IS the Answer And Way....
For Restoring Goodness and Establishing Peace And Safety IN the World...BY A FEW controlling The Worlds Wealth.

It’s a Cunning LIE.
Jesus Promoted God is the Creator and Maker...And Every Individuals Freewill To Choose God Be Their Master, Their Peacemaker, Their Safety-net....
Not ... A mystery of WHICH men promote An “others” MAN’S Wealth IN “Their” Control...Leads To World “peace and safety”.

Yes...”politics” and “religion” Are separate “things”....Yet... “Principles”
Of every Individual Become The “Issue” Of Every Individuals choices to Agree OR Reject what other men’s Principles ARE.

You were fortunate to have been raised in a Nation whereby your governmental Representatives Still broadly maintained God is the Master above All.

The US began Falling Away from THAT Principle bit by bit over 100 years Ago, to “an epidemic of Falling Away as observed today.”.

Glory to God,
Taken

Dear Taken,

Thank you for your well presented view and for your hunger for the Truth.

This subject is really complicated and I applaud you for taking the time to dum it down for me. I’ll need some time to digest your reasoning, but you have really done an effort to help me understand your perspective and line of thought.

Do you participate in the electoral process and how do you weigh the importance of the conflicting issues?

I’m not an American but if we see it in an American context, I am pro life but I hate war and corruption.

If I vote for the democrat party, am I then an accomplish their evil doings?

If I vote Republican Party am I then an accomplish to their evil doings?

 

[Naomanos]

Since most of what I write I am thinking of the guests that come to the site

This is how I try to write as well.

 

[Enoch111]

Guilty of what?

Exactly. The right to self defense is a Constitutional right. In fact it is a human right. But the vitriol, venom, hatred, racism, and evil-speaking coming from the mouths of the Leftists is truly appalling, even though justice was served. I will not reproduce the garbage that is coming out of the mouths of Democrats and Communists in America. You all can read it for yourself, and it should make you sick.

They continue to call an innocent man guilty, when the rule of law says that any accused is INNOCENT until found guilty. They did the same thing to Donald Trump, and no one has gone to prison for that. And Kyle Rittenhouse was not found guilty even though the mob was calling for his blood.

Now everything is all about race, in order to deflect from the fact that the Leftists were burning down America for months while law enforcement agencies simply stood by. The evildoers are now again threatening to burn down America because of this verdict, so who is going to step up and say enough is enough? When are these criminals going to be brought to justice?

People should also note carefully that the Left is now falsely smearing all (a) conservatives, (b) Republicans, (c) Trump supporters, and (d) patriots as "White Supremacists". This is a good way to create hysteria and hatred against all those who oppose Communism and evildoers, and is no different from the tactics of the Communists in other countries, or the Nazis. The fact is that probably less than 1% of Americans are White Supremacists. But who cares about facts and truth nowadays? They kept falsely calling Trump a "White Supremacist" while Black Muslim Louis Farrakhan was shouting "Kill All Whites" and getting away with it. Barack Obama tried to hide the fact that he was a good buddy of Farrakhan. But neither he nor his wife Michelle could hide the fact that they were Black Racists. And now Black Racism is destroying America because Biden has made it official government policy.

 

[Naomanos]

People should also note carefully that the Left is now falsely smearing all (a) conservatives, (b) Republicans, (c) Trump supporters, and (d) patriots as "White Supremacists".

Not all. I know many on the left and they don't believe any of this.

Nazis

You do know that the Nazis were Fascists and not Communist? This is what tickles me, they are different ideologies, so how can a party be both Communist and Fascist? I mean, the Russians fought with the Allies against the Nazis.

This is for those who mainly believe that the Democrats are both Communiat and Fascist. I have seen both titles used in the same sentence to describe the Democratic party.

 

[Truth7t7]

I’m not even opposed to people who practice gay sex.

I hate the sin and love the sinner - what’s the purpose if you don’t have mad love for homosexuals?

Have you completely lost the plot?
- did you really think we as Christians are supposed to condemn homosexuals or make life harder on them? We are supposed to spread the good news, that Jesus died so transgressors like us can be saved. When you pray, you thank God you’re not like the homosexual guy standing next to you. With that form of self-righteousness, you’ll never see God’s kingdom.

You don’t have any love in your heart, it’s clear from your messages - theology won’t help you. You won’t enter God’s kingdom if you don’t start loving the sinners too.
You are just a hypocrite sinner who is trying to point towards the homosexuals, so people won’t notice your filth.
We see your filth, we see your lack of love - don’t fool yourself into believing that you are righteous in any way.
If God wants someone to confront people who have gay sex, he will never choose someone without love in his heart.

Turn away from your wicket and hateful ways!

Your a liberal that supports and condones homosexuality, that's my observation and opinion

You can scream homosexuality is a disease all you want, scripture teaches otherwise, as Sodom and Gomorrah is Gods voice concerning homosexuality as seen below

2 Peter 2:6KJV
6 And turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrha into ashes condemned them with an overthrow, making them an ensample unto those that after should live ungodly;

Romans 1:26-32KJV
26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,
30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,
31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:
32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

 

[Truth7t7]

@Grailhunter, If you often feel the need to explain what you didn’t say, to @Truth7t7. It’s because his way of debate is to manipulate and misrepresent, he knows what you said, he is just trying to muddy the water to keep you busy.

Your claim is false

Jesus Is The Lord

 

[McFearless]

He is not the only one that does that....
Since most of what I write I am thinking of the guests that come to the site, it works for me.

Your claim is false

Jesus Is The Lord

It’s not false, you just did the exact same thing with me. Saying that I support homosexuality, when I very clearly elaborated that I’m against Sin (and that I believe gay sex to be a sin).
I believe homosexuality (the attraction to one of the same gender to be a disease or an error) and I also stated that I’m against diseases too. Are you attracted to someone of your own gender? -I’m not. Most people aren’t, so there must be a disease or something wrong, if a guy or woman feels that urge. Should I be against someone for having cancer or being attracted to their own gender, if they decide to follow the word of God?
And should I really reject them if they don’t believe in Jesus and therefore live sinful lives, or should I teach them about why I fell in love with Jesus and why he is the path?

You are right about one thing though, Jesus is King..

 

[Naomanos]

opinion

You are aware that your opinion can be false?