Does John 5:24-29 contradict the belief that one must believe in Jesus to avoid eternal death?

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Jack

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Yes same Greek word=Proskenaue--5 different meanings from Greek to English-1) worship to God-2)Obeisance to a king-3) honor to a judge and 2 others- Catholicism translated in worship when Obeisance is correct to one who has a God. and is Gods appointed king.
What are your qualifications? None maybe?

These all say Keiw (Watch Tower) is wrong.

Hebrews 1:6 (ASV)
6 And let all the angels of God worship him.

Hebrews 1:6 (AMP)
6 Let all the angels of God worship Him.

Hebrews 1:6 (BBE)
6 Let all the angels of God give him worship.

Hebrews 1:6 (CSBBible)
6And let all God's angels worship him

Hebrews 1:6 (CEB)
6 All of God's angels must worship him.

Hebrews 1:6 (CJB)
6 “Let all God’s angels worship him.”

Hebrews 1:6 (CEV)
6 he commands all of his angels to worship him.

Hebrews 1:6 (Darby)
6 And let all God's angels worship him.

Hebrews 1:6 (ETRV)
6 "Let all God's angels worship him."

Hebrews 1:6 (ESV)
6 “Let all God’s angels worship him.”

Hebrews 1:6 (GW)
6 “All of God's angels must worship him.”

Hebrews 1:6 (HCSB)
6 And all God’s angels must worship Him.

Hebrews 1:6 (ICB)
6 "Let all God's angels worship him."

Hebrews 1:6 (KJV)
6 And let all the angels of God worship him.

Hebrews 1:6 (MLB)
6 “And let all God’s angels worship Him.”

Hebrews 1:6 (NET1)
6“Let all the angels of God worship him!

Hebrews 1:6 (NASB77)
6 " AND LET ALL THE ANGELS OF GOD WORSHIP HIM."

Hebrews 1:6 (NASB)
6 "AND LET ALL THE ANGELS OF GOD WORSHIP HIM."

Hebrews 1:6 (NCV)
6 “Let all God’s angels worship him.“

Hebrews 1:6 (NIV)
6 "Let all God's angels worship him."

Hebrews 1:6 (NIV2011)
6 “Let all God’s angels worship him.”

Hebrews 1:6 (NLT2)
6 “Let all of God’s angels worship him.”

Hebrews 1:6 (NRSV)
6 "Let all God's angels worship him."

Hebrews 1:6 (RSV)
6 "Let all God's angels worship him."

Hebrews 1:6 (TLB)
6 "Let all the angels of God worship him."

Hebrews 1:6 (MSG)
6 "All angels must worship him."

Hebrews 1:6 (TEV)
6 "All of God's angels must worship him."

Hebrews 1:6 (Webster's Bible)
6 And let all the angels of God worship him.
 
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L.A.M.B.

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Where is Michael called our Savior in the NT? Answer: NEVER

2 Timothy 1:10 (NKJV)
10 but has now been revealed by the appearing of our Savior Jesus Christ,
eiw
And Michael is "one of the chief princes", not our Savior Jesus!

Daniel 10:13 (NKJV)
13 But the prince of the kingdom of Persia withstood me twenty-one days; and behold, Michael, one of the chief princes, came to help me,

You're spewing Watch Tower doctrine.
You, my brother, might be very very surprised WHO ALL on this site believes as Keiw, about Michael / Jesus. THEY ARE NOT ADHERENTS TO THE WATCHTOWER, either!
 
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You, my brother, might be very very surprised WHO ALL on this site believes as Keiw, about Michael / Jesus. THEY ARE NOT ADHERENTS TO THE WATCHTOWER, either!
Thanks for the warning. lol

What other religion believes that Michael is Jesus?
 
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These denominations also believe that Jesus and Michael are the same being, or attribute devotion to !
THE RESTORED
CHURCH OF GOD, David C Pack, it is a splinter from Herbert W. Armstrong's Worldwide Church of God (formerly the Radio Church of God). They believe Jesus and Michael are one and the same.

Some Seventh-Day Adventists also believe that Jesus is Michael the Archangel.While the founders of the Adventists, denied the deity of Christ, most Adventists today do not deny the divinity of Christ.

FYI. Def. Deity, the creator and supreme being (in a monotheistic religion such as Christianity).GOD
Def. Divinity the state or quality of being divine.

Devotions to Saint Michael have a large Catholic and Lutheran following , and a number of churches are dedicated to him worldwide. Roman Catholic devotions to Saint Michael have been expressed in a variety of forms, including a chaplet and scapular. A number of prayers, novenas, and hymns are directed to him.

THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS, aka Mormons
Believe that Michael is the name by which Adam was known in the premortal life. He is called the Archangel. In Hebrew the name means "Who is like God."

William Dankenbring's (WD) Triumph Prophetic Ministries,who was also a part of Armstrong's WCG until he claimed to have been persecuted and driven from such.


*****DISCLAIMER: NOT TO IMPUNE ANY BY NAME OR ATTENDEES OF SUCH, THAT HOLD TO, PROCLAIM THIS TO BE THE TRUTH, ARE CONDEMNED.

We are not one another's judge nor jury to the final punishment or lack thereof.

Ephesians 4:32 KJV
32 And be ye kind one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God for Christ's sake hath forgiven you.
 
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The Israelite religion-NEVER served a trinity God while serving the Abrahamic God, they served the true living God. YHWH(Jehovah)
Interesting points, again.
With no knowledge of the Son, how could they?
In the creation account we read that God created humankind in THEIR own image.
Who is THEY?
And the visitors that made a covenant with Abram?
Catholicism changed God to a trinity at the council of Constantinople
Doctrine is man-made. Based on observations.
Possibly took that long to codify the doctrine.

Seems to be good support for the doctrine of the deity of Christ.
Which you seem to deny. But you have done your homework,
so I respect your right to an opinion.
Catholicisms own encyclopedia says the apostles knew nothing of God being a trinity.) Because he isn't.
Seems to be a stretch.
In the Gospel account of Jesus' baptism we see the Father, the Son, and the Spirit all present.
And the Apostle John makes a HUGE point in the first chapter of his Gospel.
Stating that the word was from the beginning, was with God, was God.
And the word became flesh.
Catholicism translated small errors in to fit their false council teachings.
This is worth discussing. Can you elaborate?
May give some weight to your quoted comments above. Thanks.
 

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These denominations also believe that Jesus and Michael are the same being, or attribute devotion to !
THE RESTORED
CHURCH OF GOD, David C Pack, it is a splinter from Herbert W. Armstrong's Worldwide Church of God (formerly the Radio Church of God). They believe Jesus and Michael are one and the same.

Some Seventh-Day Adventists also believe that Jesus is Michael the Archangel.While the founders of the Adventists, denied the deity of Christ, most Adventists today do not deny the divinity of Christ.

FYI. Def. Deity, the creator and supreme being (in a monotheistic religion such as Christianity).GOD
Def. Divinity the state or quality of being divine.

Devotions to Saint Michael have a large Catholic and Lutheran following , and a number of churches are dedicated to him worldwide. Roman Catholic devotions to Saint Michael have been expressed in a variety of forms, including a chaplet and scapular. A number of prayers, novenas, and hymns are directed to him.

THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS, aka Mormons
Believe that Michael is the name by which Adam was known in the premortal life. He is called the Archangel. In Hebrew the name means "Who is like God."

William Dankenbring's (WD) Triumph Prophetic Ministries,who was also a part of Armstrong's WCG until he claimed to have been persecuted and driven from such.
Thank you for that very interesting info! Satan has been busy! I doubt if many 'Christians' even know this is in the Bible:

2 Corinthians 11:14-15
14 Satan himself transforms himself into an angel of light. 15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also transform themselves into ministers of righteousness,
*****DISCLAIMER: NOT TO IMPUNE ANY BY NAME OR ATTENDEES OF SUCH, THAT HOLD TO, PROCLAIM THIS TO BE THE TRUTH, ARE CONDEMNED.

We are not one another's judge nor jury to the final punishment or lack thereof.

Ephesians 4:32 KJV
32 And be ye kind one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God for Christ's sake hath forgiven you.
Perhaps we can pull some 'Christians' out of the fire with the written Word of God, our Bible that Satan HATES.

Hebrews 4:12
12 For the word of God is living and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing even to the division of soul and spirit, and of joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.

Jude 1:22-23
22 And on some have compassion, making a distinction; 23 but others save with fear, pulling them out of the fire,
 
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Your own JW Bible says:
NWT John 20 Thomas said to Jesus, "My Lord and my God"!
And Jesus says the Father is the only true God-Paul says-There is one God to all the Father--So its you twisting Thomas words into unreality.
 

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What are your qualifications? None maybe?

These all say Keiw is wrong.

Hebrews 1:6 (ASV)
6 And let all the angels of God worship him.

Hebrews 1:6 (AMP)
6 Let all the angels of God worship Him.

Hebrews 1:6 (BBE)
6 Let all the angels of God give him worship.

Hebrews 1:6 (CSBBible)
6And let all God's angels worship him

Hebrews 1:6 (CEB)
6 All of God's angels must worship him.

Hebrews 1:6 (CJB)
6 “Let all God’s angels worship him.”

Hebrews 1:6 (CEV)
6 he commands all of his angels to worship him.

Hebrews 1:6 (Darby)
6 And let all God's angels worship him.

Hebrews 1:6 (ETRV)
6 "Let all God's angels worship him."

Hebrews 1:6 (ESV)
6 “Let all God’s angels worship him.”

Hebrews 1:6 (GW)
6 “All of God's angels must worship him.”

Hebrews 1:6 (HCSB)
6 And all God’s angels must worship Him.

Hebrews 1:6 (ICB)
6 "Let all God's angels worship him."

Hebrews 1:6 (KJV)
6 And let all the angels of God worship him.

Hebrews 1:6 (MLB)
6 “And let all God’s angels worship Him.”

Hebrews 1:6 (NET1)
6“Let all the angels of God worship him!

Hebrews 1:6 (NASB77)
6 " AND LET ALL THE ANGELS OF GOD WORSHIP HIM."

Hebrews 1:6 (NASB)
6 "AND LET ALL THE ANGELS OF GOD WORSHIP HIM."

Hebrews 1:6 (NCV)
6 “Let all God’s angels worship him.“

Hebrews 1:6 (NIV)
6 "Let all God's angels worship him."

Hebrews 1:6 (NIV2011)
6 “Let all God’s angels worship him.”

Hebrews 1:6 (NLT2)
6 “Let all of God’s angels worship him.”

Hebrews 1:6 (NRSV)
6 "Let all God's angels worship him."

Hebrews 1:6 (RSV)
6 "Let all God's angels worship him."

Hebrews 1:6 (TLB)
6 "Let all the angels of God worship him."

Hebrews 1:6 (MSG)
6 "All angels must worship him."

Hebrews 1:6 (TEV)
6 "All of God's angels must worship him."

Hebrews 1:6 (Webster's Bible)
6 And let all the angels of God worship him.
Out of altered translations.
 

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And Jesus says the Father is the only true God-Paul says-There is one God to all the Father--So its you twisting Thomas words into unreality.
How can I be twisting? I simply quoted YOUR NWT.
 

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Interesting points, again.
With no knowledge of the Son, how could they?
In the creation account we read that God created humankind in THEIR own image.
Who is THEY?
And the visitors that made a covenant with Abram?

Doctrine is man-made. Based on observations.
Possibly took that long to codify the doctrine.

Seems to be good support for the doctrine of the deity of Christ.
Which you seem to deny. But you have done your homework,
so I respect your right to an opinion.

Seems to be a stretch.
In the Gospel account of Jesus' baptism we see the Father, the Son, and the Spirit all present.
And the Apostle John makes a HUGE point in the first chapter of his Gospel.
Stating that the word was from the beginning, was with God, was God.
And the word became flesh.

This is worth discussing. Can you elaborate?
May give some weight to your quoted comments above. Thanks.
Let us( YHWH(Jehovah) and his master worker( Jesus-Prov 8) make man in our image. After YHWH created Michael first and last direct, he created all other things through him. He is the one God sent to earth and was named Jesus as a mortal.
Coll 1:15=FIRSTBORN of all creation-goes along with Prov 8:22-25--Where he tells all he was created. Then gives God ALL credit for the creation. But he was the one by Gods side during the creation process=Gods master worker. The one God grew especially fond of. And 8:32 he tells all to listen to him. God instructed all to listen to Jesus as well.

The Israelites knew a lot about their coming Messiah-They knew he has a God-Psalm 45:7
 
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How can I be twisting? I simply quoted YOUR NWT.
And throw Jesus and Pauls truth away in the process-There is a whole bible.-No contradictions. twisting makes contradictions.
 

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And throw Jesus and Pauls truth away in the process-There is a whole bible.-No contradictions. twisting makes contradictions.
You're upset because I quoted YOUR Bible. Are you now saying the NWT is Satanic also?
 
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All of our Bibles are wrong and you are right? lol
Here in these last days-truth becomes abundant-Dan 12:4--by someone correcting the errors taught all throughout. All of creation saw it done.
 

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Here in these last days-truth becomes abundant-Dan 12:4--by someone correcting the errors taught all throughout. All of creation saw it done.
You're not qualified to correct our Bibles. Has Watch Tower has cast a Satanic spell on you?
 

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You're not qualified to correct our Bibles. Has Watch Tower has cast a Satanic spell on you?
I didn't correct the bible. God did. The blind living by the altered versions missed it.