Do you believe that ALL babies that die go to Heaven or only "the elect"?

[BreadOfLife]

What other??? The one Jesus said that there are 12 hrs. in a day, constituting one day as 24 hrs.

God does not have a rule for mankind and a different rule for Himself!

To God Be The Glory

Jesus Christ is not only God – He is a human being.
In His humanity here on earth, He fully experienced time as WE do.

Peter explains that in the Heavenly realm, there is NO time was we understand it.
This is difficult for some people to accept.

 

[BlessedPeace]

Then I suggest that you should read Psalms 58:3-8!

This is God's assessment of the human race, not mine. I don't understand how people think they know more than God.

To God Be The Glory

I don't know any newborns who are able to speak words the moment they are born.

 

[BlessedPeace]

Jesus Christ is not only God – He is a human being.
In His humanity here on earth, He fully experienced time as WE do.

Peter explains that in the Heavenly realm, there is NO time was we understand it.
This is difficult for some people to accept.

He was a human being to a point. He was not fallible, or able to sin, the way fully human beings are.
Jesus was The Word, God, made flesh.

 

[JunChosen]

I don't know any newborns who are able to speak words the moment they are born.

To you it is impossible, but with God ALL things are possible, including writing Psalms 58!

Let God be found true and all men liars!

Jesus Christ is not only God – He is a human being.
In His humanity here on earth, He fully experienced time as WE do.

Peter explains that in the Heavenly realm, there is NO time was we understand it.
This is difficult for some people to accept.

MY SENTIMENTS, EXACTLY!!!

Isn't that what I conveyed to you?

To God Be The Glory

 

[Tomorrow]

To you it is impossible, but with God ALL things are possible, including writing Psalms 58!

Let God be found true and all men liars.

Any man who states a newly born baby can speak words would be the liar.
And while misunderstanding Psalm 58.

 

[JunChosen]

Any man who states a newly born baby can speak words would be the liar.
And while misunderstanding Psalm 58.

like I said, I didn't write Psalms 58 but God did; besides, Romans 3:10 declares "There is none righteous, no. not one." (that includes babies without exception!).

However, if you feel my understanding of Psalms 58 is incorrect, will you give your expertise and exegete?

To God Be The Glory

 

[Bob Estey]

I think all babies that die to to Heaven, although I don't know that I can back that belief with scripture.

Might be argued that it would be better for all people if they all died as babies so that they would all go to Heaven rather than growing into adulthood and risking being condemned to Hell?

Some people's rigid theologies about what has to happen before we can go to heaven, don't take into account what happens to babies that die. Babies that die aren't going to hell - faith teaches us that.

 

[JunChosen]

ADDENDUM @Tomorrow,

Here's another Scripture to ponder.

"As in Adam all die." That is the Gates of Hell is upon each and every human, including babies!

 

[BlessedPeace]

Any man who states a newly born baby can speak words would be the liar.
And while misunderstanding Psalm 58.

I don't think people who need to believe newborn babies are deserving of Hell realize what they're saying about God.
Or, maybe they do.

Jesus told us it would be better for those who led little ones astray to tie a millstone around their neck.

Jesus treasures babies.

A Pharisees opinion about newborns I think needs to be taken in the context. Jesus ministry was overcoming the Pharisees teachings that gave them authority as if they were God.
Which is another reason why their teaching that God creates newborns to be depraved sinners the moment they draw breath is not of God.

Now they were bringing even infants to him that he might touch them. And when the disciples saw it, they rebuked them. But Jesus called them to him, saying, “Let the children come to me, and do not hinder them, for to such belongs the kingdom of God. Truly, I say to you, whoever does not receive the kingdom of God like a child shall not enter it.”

 

[Truther]

Jesus Christ is not only God – He is a human being.
In His humanity here on earth, He fully experienced time as WE do.

Peter explains that in the Heavenly realm, there is NO time was we understand it.
This is difficult for some people to accept.

God is human?...


21 Jesus saith unto her, ...

24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

 

[Truther]

God is human?...


21 Jesus saith unto her, ...

24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

God is human?...


And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God.

 

[Truther]

Howbout God is fully indwelling a human, bodily...making the man Christ Jesus, God, by default?

 

[St. SteVen]

Some people's rigid theologies about what has to happen before we can go to heaven, don't take into account what happens to babies that die. Babies that die aren't going to hell - faith teaches us that.

Thanks, Bob. I agree.
Could you unpack that a bit more?
How did you arrive at that conclusion?

 

[St. SteVen]

I don't know any newborns who are able to speak words the moment they are born.

I'm trying to imagine the judgement of an infant.
Parody time:

"Do you remember depriving your parents of sleep for weeks on end?"
Response: "Goo goo, gah gah."
"For the record, was that a 'Yes', or a 'No'?
Response: "Dah dah dah."
"So, you're blaming your father?"
Response: "Thhatttttz." (tongue noise)

 

[Truther]

Babies are saved.

They are unable to process Acts 2:38.

Unto them is the kingdom of heaven.

It is the adults that I am worried about.

They have the ability to obey Acts 2:38.

 

[BlessedPeace]

I'm trying to imagine the judgement of an infant.
Parody time:

"Do you remember depriving your parents of sleep for weeks on end?"
Response: "Goo goo, gah gah."
"For the record, was that a 'Yes', or a 'No'?
Response: "Dah dah dah."
"So, you're blaming your father?"
Response: "Thhatttttz." (tongue noise)

That's great. I pictured Stewie the whole time.

I can't imagine any religion serving a deity that would condemn babies to burn for eternity. That's evil.

 

[St. SteVen]

That's great. I pictured Stewie the whole time.

I can't imagine any religion serving a deity that would condemn babies to burn for eternity. That's evil.

LOL
Worse than Baal worship really.
The unfortunate standard of Christianity.

 

[St. SteVen]

Babies are saved.

Agree.
Check out post #74 for a good laugh.

 

[St. SteVen]

Jesus treasures babies.

Exactly.
But these Calvinists want to burn them. (claiming God's choice)
As do Arminians, And then blame the victim.

 

[BreadOfLife]

He was a human being to a point. He was not fallible, or able to sin, the way fully human beings are.
Jesus was The Word, God, made flesh.

WRONG.

Jesus is FULLY God and FULLY man.
He was tempted – just like everyone else.