Different ideas

[Marakorpa]

so, to import a pic from another site, you just open two small windows, or can you copy/paste from one tab to another, or what? ty

Boo!

 

[Marakorpa]

Thank you for that!! When I feel brave I shall try it on here.
This is about the best I can right now though.

Cool!!!!! You are on the way.

 

[bbyrd009]

So I believe and the scriptures show this to be true.

i would have to insist on a more inclusive interpretation of a Witness though, i mean c'mon
seems "God judges the heart" overrules JW doctrine there. Only JWs?

 

[bbyrd009]

comment about not having a spoon is one of those silly comments

@Job you just zapped me with that one too lol what

 

[bbyrd009]

When did I ever ask you to teach me anything?

ha Job and i are having the exact same convo on another thread lol

 

[Job]

why does it have to be about teaching me anything?

Then what would be the point?

 

[Helen]

Oh that does work! Yay!!

 

[Job]

Oh that does work! Yay!!

It's the little things in life...:)

o

 

[Helen]

It's the little things in life...:)

o

Haha! True indeed. Small brains are very easily entertained.

Oh clever me...I've done it again! It works!! LOL
Im "on a roll" now! :)
==

 

[Marakorpa]

i would have to insist on a more inclusive interpretation of a Witness though, i mean c'mon
seems "God judges the heart" overrules JW doctrine there. Only JWs?

What the Bible says about being a Christian, a word first mentioned at Antioch, is very clear with no indication that your can be a part Christian:
The Latinized Greek term Khri·sti·a·nosʹ, found only three times in the Christian Greek Scriptures, designates followers of Christ Jesus, the exponents of Christianity.—Ac 11:26; 26:28; 1Pe 4:16.
“It was first in Antioch [Syria] that the disciples were by divine providence called Christians.” (Ac 11:26) It is possible, then, that this name was used as early as the year 44 C.E. when the events surrounding this text occurred, although the grammatical structure of this phrase does not necessarily make it so; some think it was a little later. At any rate, by about 58 C.E., in the city of Caesarea, the term was well known and used even by public officials, for at that time King Herod Agrippa II said to Paul: “In a short time you would persuade me to become a Christian.”—Ac 26:28.

You are correct, Jehovah does judge the heart and if the heart follows its own desires Jehovah will never find it.

You read the Bible and write here what Christians do not do, or should not do.

As far as the name Jehovah Witnesses:

What a privilege it is to bear the name Jehovah, for he is “the King of eternity,” who says: “This is my name forever, and this is how I am to be remembered from generation to generation”! (1 Tim. 1:17; Ex. 3:15; compare Ecclesiastes 2:16.) In 1931, the name Jehovah’s Witnesses was adopted by the Bible Students. Afterward, many letters of appreciation were published in this journal. “The good news that we are ‘Jehovah’s witnesses’ has thrilled us, and filled us with renewed determination to be worthy of the new name,” wrote one congregation from Canada.

4 How can you show your appreciation for the privilege of bearing God’s name? Also, can you explain the Scriptural context from which our name, Jehovah’s Witnesses, is taken?

People have used the teachings of Jesus Christ to form a variety of “Christian” denominations. However, the Bible indicates that there is only one true form of Christianity. Consider just three reasons for reaching this conclusion.

1. Jesus said that he taught “the truth,” and early Christians referred to their religion as “the truth.” (John 8:32; 2 Peter 2:2; 2 John 4; 3 John 3) These expressions show that those who promote doctrines that conflict with Jesus’ teachings are not practising a true form of Christianity.
   
   
2. The Bible teaches that Christians “should all speak in agreement.” (1 Corinthians 1:10) However, many Christian denominations disagree on teachings as basic as what it means to be a Christian. Such denominations cannot all be right.—1 Peter 2:21.
   
   
3. Jesus prophesied that many would claim to be Christian yet fail to obey his commands and that he would reject such ones. (Matthew 7:21-23; Luke 6:46) Some people would be misled by religious leaders who corrupt true worship to further their own interests. (Matthew 7:15) However, other people would actually prefer imitation Christianity because it would tell them what they want to hear rather than the truth from the Bible.—2 Timothy 4:3, 4.
   

 

[Marakorpa]

Haha! True indeed. Small brains are very easily entertained.
View attachment 1047
Oh clever me...I've done it again! It works!! LOL
Im "on a roll" now! :)
==

who was it that said: The person that calls you ignorant is one who has just learned what you don’t know. OH Yeah! Will Rogers.

 

[mjrhealth]

People have used the teachings of Jesus Christ to form a variety of “Christian” denominations. However, the Bible indicates that there is only one true form of Christianity. Consider just three reasons for reaching this conclusion.

But are you not here promoting another religion??? There is only one way to heaven, and it is not through mens religions, doctrines, churches ideologies etc, Just Jesus. Why is it that"christians" keep trying to find another way.

Joh_10:1 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that entereth not by the door into the sheepfold, but climbeth up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber.

 

[Marakorpa]

But are you not here promoting another religion??? There is only one way to heaven, and it is not through mens religions, doctrines, churches ideologies etc, Just Jesus. Why is it that"christians" keep trying to find another way.

Joh_10:1 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that entereth not by the door into the sheepfold, but climbeth up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber.

I do not think I am promoting anything, Jehovah really does not need my help. I consider that what I believe, as more and more is revealed on Bible teachings, the more I believe that it is the Truth.

There is no other away to heaven then being chosen by Jehovah and be a part of the "faithful and discreet Slave Class, and there is not much time for that; however there is a great crowd that have assured expectation of living on a Paradise earth forever.

Jesus was made the King of Heaven when he fought with Satan and his evil angels and threw them d own to the vicinity of the earth. The heavens were then cleansed and the members of the 144,00 could be brought to b take up their positions ready to rule the earth for a thousand years, then Satan will be released fro a short time after, which he will be gone forever more, and as he nor anyone else has an immortal soul, he will never be seen again.

Don’t this this is just form my mind, it is written in the Bible ad the Bible is the only workshop manual for true Christians.

Could you accept a challenge and find another Christian religion like the JWs, a religion that does not practice idolatry nor immorality such as homosexuality nor condone homosexual acts even in the privacy of some place., adultery or sex outside of marriage, does not commit murder in wars of governments. You challenge religion should not practice any pagan origin rites, no matter how they are glossed over. I would love to hear your results.

 

[mjrhealth]

Don’t this this is just form my mind, it is written in the Bible ad the Bible is the only workshop manual for true Christians.

Actually the only true Christians are these,

Rom 8:14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.
Rom 8:15 For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.
Rom 8:16 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:

But too many prefer religion to God, or Jesus, and men and the bible to teh Holy Spirit. God is not teh author of confusion, yet all those who follow the bible are confused, Strange aint it.

 

[mjrhealth]

Could you accept a challenge and find another Christian religion like the JWs, a religion that does not practice idolatry nor immorality such as homosexuality nor condone homosexual acts even in the privacy of some place., adultery or sex outside of marriage, does not commit murder in wars of governments. You challenge religion should not practice any pagan origin rites, no matter how they are glossed over. I would love to hear your results.

So many things hidden behind closed doors, God isnt blind, your religion is just another making slaves of men Just as God asked of Mose tp say to Pharaoh.

Exo_8:1 And the LORD spake unto Moses, Go unto Pharaoh, and say unto him, Thus saith the LORD, Let my people go, that they may serve me.

But your leaders wont let you go, and neither do you want to go just as te hIsraelites complained,

Exo_14:11 And they said unto Moses, Because there were no graves in Egypt, hast thou taken us away to die in the wilderness? wherefore hast thou dealt thus with us, to carry us forth out of Egypt?

And so you remain slaves in Egypt just like all teh religious people do.

 

[lforrest]

So many things hidden behind closed doors, God isnt blind, your religion is just another making slaves of men Just as God asked of Mose tp say to Pharaoh.

Exo_8:1 And the LORD spake unto Moses, Go unto Pharaoh, and say unto him, Thus saith the LORD, Let my people go, that they may serve me.

But your leaders wont let you go, and neither do you want to go just as te hIsraelites complained,

Exo_14:11 And they said unto Moses, Because there were no graves in Egypt, hast thou taken us away to die in the wilderness? wherefore hast thou dealt thus with us, to carry us forth out of Egypt?

And so you remain slaves in Egypt just like all teh religious people do.

The stories from those who have been shunned and disfellowshipped... Disgusting. They say it is to 'motivate' people to return to God, but is just a means of control. They coerce people knowing the power family ties can hold over someone. The Lord even knows the temptation family ties can be, and so he gave us a very serious verse. Luke 14:26 "If anyone comes to me and does not hate father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters--yes, even their own life--such a person cannot be my disciple.

How perverse is it to coerce people to stay in a fellowship using the very ties people must be willing to break in order to be a disciple?

 

[Marakorpa]

The stories from those who have been shunned and disfellowshipped... Disgusting. They say it is to 'motivate' people to return to God, but is just a means of control. They coerce people knowing the power family ties can hold over someone. The Lord even knows the temptation family ties can be, and so he gave us a very serious verse. Luke 14:26 "If anyone comes to me and does not hate father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters--yes, even their own life--such a person cannot be my disciple.

How perverse is it to coerce people to stay in a fellowship using the very ties people must be willing to break in order to be a disciple?

Again words that are not thought out, nor do they come from the facts of the words themselves.

It is not shunned and disfellowshipped, you just do not have any idea why Disfellowshipping occurs on the True religion.
The Catholics have excommunication, but do you say the same with that? Some religious leaders had a visit of the Pope of the 2nd World War time and asked that the Pope excommunicate Hitler, who was a Catholic. The Pope indicated that he had no reason to save the Jews, and declined.
The Jws investigate a person as much as they can, they do not take removing a person from the congregation carelessly. Unless that person is seen to be possibly making division, or creating other problems for the congregation, then action must be taken with love and disciplinary thought from the Bible instructions. The disciplined person is visited by the elders on a constant basis to try to reason with the person. A person that comes back to God is much stronger than the ones that do not bother.

Naturally, the ones that have been disfellowshipped may be angry, feel mistreated or treated unfairly, these are the one that turn apostate and quote Biblical scripture and make out that it is their Truth, that is not me, I have not been disfellowshipped.

All I ask is that you look at religion in general, in times past if you didn’t take on the guise of a religion you would be burnt at the stake for heresy. The JWs haven’t come to that so far as I know. The rest of people that have a religious experience where they have "Their ears tickled" by the clergy do so for that comfort, many other just take on the religion in name because you have to write something on the forms. and a further number take the name of the religion that their parents had without having much knowledge of what that religion teaches except the party time of Easter eggs and Xmas parties.

Why is there 40,00 "Christian" religions. Isn't the word of God clear to at least some of them? The answer is the same as it is for those in politics, it is about power.

Do you have any idea why religious clerics are finding other jobs ans why so many Churches are closing down?

Do you wish to look at the Revelation of John where it talks about the Harlot riding on the back of the beast.

 

[mjrhealth]

The Jws investigate a person as much as they can, they do not take removing a person from the congregation carelessly. Unless that person is seen to be possibly making division, or creating other problems for the congregation, then action must be taken with love and disciplinary thought from the Bible instructions. The disciplined person is visited by the elders on a constant basis to try to reason with the person. A person that comes back to God is much stronger than the ones that do not bother.

Just another religion amongst the gazillion other one, no better no or worse.

Mat_23:13 But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in.

And that is all that religion does, Keeps people from God.

 

[Marakorpa]

Just another religion amongst the gazillion other one, no better no or worse.

Mat_23:13 But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in.

And that is all that religion does, Keeps people from God.

You sound no more disillusioned than the rest, but you have an opportunity for a short time to find the Truth, it is your choice.

Because Satan is so angry with anyone that tells the truth about their God Jehovah and his son, created in the image of the Invisible God,his Heavenly father this religion will be attacked more than any of the other religions of Christendom, and that is Biblical prophecy.

Satan blinds the eyes and hearts of the people so that they will not even have the courage to look for what is the "Word of God" but rather take the garbage dealt out to them at a cost.

The last quote of yours is certainly right, But so do you know why? who is the one that puts the different ideas into the heads of the one that teach the lies that Christendom is teaching?

Doesn't the Bible say?

The book of Revelation speaks of the time when Michael would be active as King. It states: “War broke out in heaven: Michael and his angels battled with the dragon, and the dragon and its angels battled but it did not prevail, neither was a place found for them any longer in heaven. So down the great dragon was hurled, the original serpent, the one called Devil and Satan, who is misleading the entire inhabited earth; he was hurled down to the earth, and his angels were hurled down with him. On this account be glad, you heavens and you who reside in them! Woe for the earth and for the sea, because the Devil has come down to you, having great anger, knowing he has a short period of time.”

—Revelation 12:7-9, 12.

 

[mjrhealth]

The book of Revelation speaks of the time when Michael would be active as King. It states: “War broke out in heaven: Michael and his angels battled with the dragon, and the dragon and its angels battled but it did not prevail, neither was a place found for them any longer in heaven. So down the great dragon was hurled, the original serpent, the one called Devil and Satan, who is misleading the entire inhabited earth; he was hurled down to the earth, and his angels were hurled down with him. On this account be glad, you heavens and you who reside in them! Woe for the earth and for the sea, because the Devil has come down to you, having great anger, knowing he has a short period of time.”

And that is why these forums are filled with religious men, very learned men like Saul,and confused chritstians and a whole bunch of trouble makers, because His time is short and he is making teh best of it. Still your religion is just another like all the rest.